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Oscar22

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the accurate details so far are that we've sold one of our greatest ever players, and as of 48hrs of the window left were scrambling around for a loan deal to make it look like we were replacing him.

it's unforgivable.

Yep, and this part I agree with.
 

talkshowhost86

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I agree, and I’ve said numerous times in longer posts that we don’t appear to have any clear obvious plan or strategy for transfers.

I want Levy out too so that we can hopefully have someone who is more focussed on us achieving something on the field.

However this thread rocks up every time something apparently goes wrong, and he’s now getting abuse and the usual name calling even though we have no idea if he was the reason a deal fell through, or if the deal was even on in the first place.

There’s enough of a stick to beat Levy with after the last twenty years, but it’s tiresome when everything new gets attributed to him as well with no reliable evidence.
I completely agree with your even-handed approach and yes there should be more scrutiny than outright fury

But honestly? Levy has earned the ire of Spurs fans

Personal abuse is never okay...but he deserves massive criticism
 

Rout-Ledge

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I thought there was ITK saying he blew up the deal?
Pinch of salt. It was clear we needed an option for the deal to be viable (and rightly so, would be absurd to take on a Barca prospect on a straight loan). It is also clear Brighton have no option to buy.

I’ll absolutely judge Levy on the business we do this week, but this deal is at worst a distraction and I absolutely do not believe we could have got Fati with an option to buy but for Levy fucking up the deal.
 

Oscar22

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I completely agree with your even-handed approach and yes there should be more scrutiny than outright fury

But honestly? Levy has earned the ire of Spurs fans

Personal abuse is never okay...but he deserves massive criticism

He does, and as I mentioned there is an absolute ton of stuff he’s done to draw ire, people don’t need to create things that aren’t confirmed. He’s let us down time and time again.

However last night Ange picked a team that wasn’t good enough, the players didn’t perform, and Ange made a poor choice and the first thing the match thread contained was people saying a poor selection and performance was down to Levy. I agree that it’s him in the most part that has our squad in a poor state, but people blaming him for the team selected us ridiculous.

Tonight with Fati, we don’t know what’s happened. If it comes out he messed it up, then blame him. I’m just saying people need to not work themselves up blaming him for things where we dont know what his involvement actually was.

People are right to be angry, and they should criticise him, I’ll happily agree with them. However all I’m saying is criticise him for what we KNOW, not what we think we know.
 

h2005

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Pinch of salt. It was clear we needed an option for the deal to be viable (and rightly so, would be absurd to take on a Barca prospect on a straight loan). It is also clear Brighton have no option to buy.

I’ll absolutely judge Levy on the business we do this week, but this deal is at worst a distraction and I absolutely do not believe we could have got Fati with an option to buy but for Levy fucking up the deal.
What would be wrong with a season long loan?
 

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It's been a rule ever since we started the ITK forums that the only place it should go is in said forums. We generally lock threads that start to go down that road.

If people want to discuss ITK, feel free, but not in here..............get to the ITK discussion thread please.
 

Misfit

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The years come an go, the excuses don't even change anymore as they've all been trotted out so often and the same result endures. Incomplete team, never mind squad, more often than not.

Just the way it is and always will be under current management. I think I'll just skip transfer window stuff from now on.
 

mackelman

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There needs to be an orchestrated campaign to do our utmost to stop any non footballing activities taking place in our stadium. We (the fans) will pay for this mortgage, not Enic. Absolutely not a reaction to Fati situation - the bigger picture at play. Our club, our stadium.
 

Rout-Ledge

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There needs to be an orchestrated campaign to do our utmost to stop any non footballing activities taking place in our stadium. We (the fans) will pay for this mortgage, not Enic. Absolutely not a reaction to Fati situation - the bigger picture at play. Our club, our stadium.

Less money coming into the club is not a good thing.
 

spurs9

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What would be wrong with a season long loan?
With no option, if the player performs well, you might be out bid by other clubs or his club might decide not to sell him, then you have just developed a player for someone else.

Maybe, if it was an experienced/already developed player and we were short on numbers for that position and no-one we wanted long term was available, then a "dry loan" can be useful. None of that was the case with Fati.

If, we were trying to get an option on the loan but Barcelona refused, then Levy did the right thing pulling out (if that is was happened).

Edit: not excusing Levy for the window, just the right outcome for this particular deal if the above is what happened.
 

absolute bobbins

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There needs to be an orchestrated campaign to do our utmost to stop any non footballing activities taking place in our stadium. We (the fans) will pay for this mortgage, not Enic. Absolutely not a reaction to Fati situation - the bigger picture at play. Our club, our stadium.
That won’t work, nobody gives a shit about you enough to listen you and your moaning.

An orchestrated campaign to boycott the club and its partners would actually make much more sense. If 30k people closed their hsbc account en masse the bank you take notice.
 

robotsonic

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That won’t work, nobody gives a shit about you enough to listen you and your moaning.

An orchestrated campaign to boycott the club and its partners would actually make much more sense. If 30k people closed their hsbc account en masse the bank you take notice.
So 30,000 Tottenham fans inconvenience their whole lives in the hope that HSBC what? Offer us £1m less money for a partnership next time it's up because of some grief? If, and certainly not even that.

I think most of this thread is absolutely comical in its misguided takes, but if you really want Levy gone then the only way that'll happen is tens of thousands outside the ground every game in an organised protest as it will have visible... visibility, and to do it for months. At the moment, these protests are at what...a couple of hundred? Up from about 15 last season. And it's a lot easier to protest outside of the ground for 30mins than it is to rearrange all of your finances, and even 1000 fans can't be bothered to do even that. Most of the drama online, here included, is from fans that aren't even at the game to protest, and if they are, don't, but want to have a pop because it's easy.

I do agree though that nobody is going to give a toss about protesting a Beyonce gig if they can't even be bothered to do it for a PL game.
 

absolute bobbins

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So 30,000 Tottenham fans inconvenience their whole lives in the hope that HSBC what? Offer us £1m less money for a partnership next time it's up because of some grief? If, and certainly not even that.

I think most of this thread is absolutely comical in its misguided takes, but if you really want Levy gone then the only way that'll happen is tens of thousands outside the ground every game in an organised protest as it will have visible... visibility, and to do it for months. At the moment, these protests are at what...a couple of hundred? Up from about 15 last season. And it's a lot easier to protest outside of the ground for 30mins than it is to rearrange all of your finances, and even 1000 fans can't be bothered to do even that. Most of the drama online, here included, is from fans that aren't even at the game to protest, and if they are, don't, but want to have a pop because it's easy.

I do agree though that nobody is going to give a toss about protesting a Beyonce gig if they can't even be bothered to do it for a PL game.
i was going to respond to all of your post but it’s 30°,c, sunny and my daughter wants to go swimming,, just think about this…

Sometimes you have to inconvenience yourself to get what you want,.

I had no issues with Levy when his actions made business sense but he has been in charge for too long and plays at being a serious capital allocator without allocating the capital, required, which is available,, to give the club the best opportunity to flourish.
 

Johno1470

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I sometimes wonder if DL ever searches his name on Twitter or ends up in the pit that is SC :LOL:

Fans may see him as an individual that is immune to criticism however I would love to be a fly on the wall when/if he searches what people are saying about him. Regardless of how much money he makes, he must have a good idea of what the general consensus must be and that's got to hurt him on some level.

Irrespective of what we as fans say about him, he's bound to know what the majority think of him based purely on football decisions. I would hate to be in his position these last few years (excluding his personal bank balance).

If he blows the remaining few days of the window I can see THST planning even more protests. I just hope that fans come together and make it extremely uncomfortable for him if he messes this up.

Letting go of Kane, screwing up the Fati deal and seemingly putting all of his eggs in the Johnson basket smells of even more hate directed towards him.

Time for Daniel to turn this around. Lets see what happens.
 

Snarfalicious

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I think we all know how this window will end. So with that in mind, it’ll be interesting to see what comes next for Daniel Levy. It won’t be anything regarding his role, that’d be requesting too much accountability.

Daniel-Levy-Sucking-At-Everything aside, I still am hopeful under Ange. Can’t lose sight of that.
 

coy-spurs1882

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0 incomings after sale of Kane and we are still stuck with deadwoods. Worst transfer window ever and this twat is still the highest earning chairman, fuck off
 

luptic

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I was all for Kane going as being naive about it I thought the club would have a plan.
How wrong was I?
If you keep spending the money they don't get it.
 

h2005

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There’s a reason Brighton is the biggest club going for that deal. We need to be building a squad for the next five years, not the next 10 months.
That’s all well and good if we get someone of a decent standard in tomorrow otherwise we’ve missed an opportunity to make ourselves better now without doing anything to build a squad for the future also.
 
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