The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Lighty64]

Oh good god...

why what has he said that isn't true

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

this season no bloody idea, but JJ did mention the players are shot, rumours have come out that many players don't want such strenuous training and if JJ is right (and I believe 1 of the only ITK's we have on here that's actually involved at the club), then perhaps the training is a reason for being shot

I keep seeing JJ mentioned so many times this week, and I've highlighted above what I'm commenting on the most from your post. I love JJ as much as anybody, and please do keep reading his stuff. It's good stuff. But unless somebody would like to tell me that it has changed again, years have gone by since he was no longer on the inside of the club. That does not mean that I think that his stuff now is wrong. I'm just clarifying that the flow of information to JJ changed years ago already, and I don't think that it has changed back to what it was. Just bear that in mind. Carry on.

 

[mike_l]

Take an FA coaching course. Learn to understand what you're watching. Anything really to help you stop posting bollocks like this. Fmob.

So you'd disagree with the notion that Poch has always preferred athletes over flair players, and graft over craft? It's the exact reason why Toby once said that without our superior fitness we were nothing, and now sure as shit, without higher fitness levels we look inept.

Perhaps with you're superior football intellect you could explain this for me?

 

[DFF]

I’ve never understood the whole ‘he has one game left to save his job’ thing, and is suepct it’s probably just media nonsense, but if any manager is apparently one game away from being sacked then surely, the writing is on the wall and it’s only a matter of time. If you’re thinking like that, then just make the change.

Agreed. But I suspect that if there is a kernel of truth to the notion, it’s because of the PR aspect. They want more fans (and press) onside before they boot out one of our most popular managers ever.

 

[Lighty64]

The Poch counter-press is only as effective as the players at its disposal. When you press with the intensity that Poch's system demands, then you can be sure that at some point something has to give or something breaks. Bielsa's Leeds were a prime example of how brutal this system is, and let's remember for a minute that Poch has always drawn inspiration for his style from the man that taught him, Bielsa. Their respective systems are principally the same.

Leeds at the start of last season was blowing the opposition away until Bielsa's system caught up with them, then injuries and burnout took their toll and went from nailed on to get back in the prem to failing in the playoffs.

The system that both of them play demands a lot from a player, not just in training, but also in the match. Desire and determination are key - hence why players like Aurier, who has bags of potential fails miserably in this system as he isn't committed enough. There are quite a few essentials in this system that are needed from players, but the key ingredient is fitness. When a player's natural fitness starts to decline, then a system like this will expose them and it will make the system totally ineffective. Sure we can play it in spits and spurts, but we can no longer do what we could 3-4 years ago.

I have always believed that the system is the culprit for the injuries that we get so often, and those mount up to the point that a player who may still be relatively young in the squad has been overused to the point that they can never regain the form they might have once enjoyed.

The one reason that Poch's job is under threat is that he has become far too rigid and hasn't learned to move on from his press - he has tried, we can see that from his multiple formation changes, the ever-changing starting 11, etc but he has clearly spent so much time working with what works that he hasn't prepared for the inevitable.

Leeds form changed the minute they got caught spying on other teams training

 

[SugarRay]

Take an FA coaching course. Learn to understand what you're watching. Anything really to help you stop posting bollocks like this. Fmob.

 

[Lighty64]

City should have had a penalty for Lamela foul at a corner. Watford should have had a penalty for Jan foul on Deulofeu. Sheff Utd goal chalked off for a big toe with a dodgy VAR line (Dier was playing his big toe onside IMHO). Dele handball v Everton. VAR has not been too unkind to us. Letting leads slip on a regular basis is due to fragility not bad luck.

City should have had a penalty for Lamela, which happened before going 1-0 up anyway. No one knows if the penalty would have been scored, or what would have happened in the end, because that 1 moment changes how the rest of the game goes, and City deserved to batter us

Had Rose been award a penalty or even a direct free kick for the Pereyra challenged then it might have been 1-1 before Deulofeu challenge, plus the shoulder is not handball

Son's penalty v Everton, Son's red card v Everton,

I agree Sheff Utd goal shouldn't have been ruled out, but doesn't mean they would have got the 2nd goal.

are you one of those people that watches a game and a team wins 5-0 but should have scored 5 other goals and say it should have been 10-0 like these commentators do

 

[The Doc]

So you'd disagree with the notion that Poch has always preferred athletes over flair players, and graft over craft? It's the exact reason why Toby once said that without our superior fitness we were nothing, and now sure as shit, without higher fitness levels we look inept.

Perhaps with you're superior football intellect you could explain this for me?

I could try fella, but I think it would be difficult to type out monosyllabically so that you can understand. Please tell me you don't go to the games. No wonder the fans are fighting each other if there are numpties like you loudly voicing their "wisdom". Fmob again.

 

[spurs mental]

City should have had a penalty for Lamela, which happened before going 1-0 up anyway. No one knows if the penalty would have been scored, or what would have happened in the end, because that 1 moment changes how the rest of the game goes, and City deserved to batter us

Had Rose been award a penalty or even a direct free kick for the Pereyra challenged then it might have been 1-1 before Deulofeu challenge, plus the shoulder is not handball

Son's penalty v Everton, Son's red card v Everton,

I agree Sheff Utd goal shouldn't have been ruled out, but doesn't mean they would have got the 2nd goal.

are you one of those people that watches a game and a team wins 5-0 but should have scored 5 other goals and say it should have been 10-0 like these commentators do

By your own logic, nobody knows if the potential penalties we could have had would be scored either. So what point are you trying to make?

 

[mike_l]

I could try fella, but I think it would be difficult to type out monosyllabically so that you can understand. Please tell me you don't go to the games. No wonder the fans are fighting each other if there are numpties like you loudly voicing their "wisdom". Fmob again.

So you can't engage in a reasonable exchange of views, and yet I'm the numpty? Ok guy on the internet, guess I'd better just bow down to your superior intellect, you've provided quite the detailed rebuttal after all...

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

I find it very uncomfortable that the 45% that want Poch out would probably want the team we all despise beat us

I don't

 

[Lighty64]

I keep seeing JJ mentioned so many times this week, and I've highlighted above what I'm commenting on the most from your post. I love JJ as much as anybody, and please do keep reading his stuff. It's good stuff. But unless somebody would like to tell me that it has changed again, years have gone by since he was no longer on the inside of the club. That does not mean that I think that his stuff now is wrong. I'm just clarifying that the flow of information to JJ changed years ago already, and I don't think that it has changed back to what it was. Just bear that in mind. Carry on.

if he wasn't involved in the club, why was he involved in the opening ceremony v Palace

 

[Lighty64]

By your own logic, nobody knows if the potential penalties we could have had would be scored either. So what point are you trying to make?

the fact that even if we didn't score the penalties, no 1 knows what would have happened for the rest of the match, plus Kane doesn't miss many

 

[Deleted member 29446]

why what has he said that isn't true

Stop trolling so hard is this thread dude..

 

[Lighty64]

Stop trolling so hard is this thread dude..

I don't troll I've been going to Spurs since 73/74 and wouldn't be sitting here in 1 of my many Spurs shirts if I was a troll, or purchase a OH+ membership to come on here trolling.

I just don't do knee jerking like you

 

[WiganSpur]

The Matt Law article seems like a load of drivel. All he's doing is making an educated guess by the looks of it. Doubt he knows anything.

 

[The Doc]

So you can't engage in a reasonable exchange of views, and yet I'm the numpty? Ok guy on the internet, guess I'd better just bow down to your superior intellect, you've provided quite the detailed rebuttal after all...

Nope. You're the guy on the internet who wants his team to lose. Don't even know where to start with this, so I will just rely on the good old ignore button. Please don't go to the games, please don't "support" Spurs, please don't even bother.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I keep seeing JJ mentioned so many times this week, and I've highlighted above what I'm commenting on the most from your post. I love JJ as much as anybody, and please do keep reading his stuff. It's good stuff. But unless somebody would like to tell me that it has changed again, years have gone by since he was no longer on the inside of the club. That does not mean that I think that his stuff now is wrong. I'm just clarifying that the flow of information to JJ changed years ago already, and I don't think that it has changed back to what it was. Just bear that in mind. Carry on.

You've no idea as to his sources or anything else and I'm not going to comment further than to say nothing has changed since he verified his information and we'll decide what's what where our ITK's are concerned, not you. We've always frowned on the guessing of sources, it's pointless and does nobody any favours, certainly not JJ or any other ITK. So please stop it, thanks.

 

[McFlash]

What does "Fmob" mean?

I've tried to work it out but all I could come up with was "fuck my old bollocks", and I'm pretty sure that's not right.

 

[spurs mental]

What does "Fmob" mean?

I've tried to work it out but all I could come up with was "fuck my old bollocks", and I'm pretty sure that's not right.

Fuck my old boots