The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[SuperPav10]

It isnt Poch's fault. It's Levy's. He's fucked us over. Big time. We need to be sold. It will be the same garbage under another manager but we'll be worse off not in CL anymore. We needed investment and Levy did his usual garbage.

Was it not widely reported over the last few windows that there was money to spend, good quality players were available to us, but Poch only wanted a specific few, who didn't want us. What can Levy do about that? Poch also got the players he wanted this Summer too? No?

 

[danielneeds]

FFS it's almost public knowledge on here that Poch outright refused all the players offered to him last summer, as he only wanted a very few select and unobtainable players. Yet you chose to ignore this completely??

This is all narrative, depending on how you want to read it. You say he refused all but a select few players, but he would say he just turned down the same punts he was offered the previous few windows and wanted to hold out for better players.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Levy’s had genuinely bad summers before and we’ve had worse managers and chairmen in the past. The fact is we’ve never lost 7-2 at home before tonight. Add that to the last 18 months of football and it’s amazing he hasn’t been sacked yet

 

[richard_gleeson]

I've said it before, but the whole club seems mentally drained.
Poch looks like he needs a break.
We are all tired from last season.
The players have become stale and the poor transfer windows have cost us. Players aren't getting pushed.
The club are trying to be too clever instead of getting the simple things right. This includes the choice of signings. Poch was crying out to be backed for 2 years, this hasn't happened and now he's absolutely fucked. He is a shadow of himself and so are the players.
It could have been great, but typical Tottenham don't push for the glory but settle.

 

[thefierycamel]

Which manager would even come here? Someone who plays good football, uses a mix of both youth and purchased talent (let's face levy isn't suddenly going to splash the cash all the time now), is tactically adept, and is an excellent man-manager? That's what we need and I don't see anyone available who ticks those boxes. Mourinho would have a fit when he sees his allocated budget each summer.

 

[dondo]

chris hughton is available

We will do what we always do, take the Southampton manager ?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

What I don't get - we played so well the first 30 minutes, surely the players were fighting for Poch then?

It’s like they all know there is no plan B.
We go behind and their mentality switches to “well now we’re fucked”.
Doesn’t help that our right back has the positional sense of an u12 Sunday league player.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Just look at the players we have and any manager will envy us. We have a huge pool of talents for fuck sake.

The love of Poch for some is unbelievable. To think some of you here rather chop half of the team for Poch to rebuild...

 

[Hakkz]

What I don't get - we played so well the first 30 minutes, surely the players were fighting for Poch then?

What if they were playing for the occasion and the badge?

 

[danielneeds]

I think there will probably be a conversation and Levy will sack him, knowing that both himself and the stadium build delays were as much to blame for this team stagnating as Poch was himself.

 

[shoggy33]

Option 1 is the far better option because these players will be gone anyway and are in the twilight years of their careers anyway. Option 2 is just delaying and making us worse off. We need a squad overhaul and have needed one for 2 years.

Well if we'd updated the squad in the previous 2 windows an overhaul wouldn't have been necessary. Poch has been shafted no doubt about it, but sadly I don't see anyway back for him now, we are just a complete mess.

 

[midoshairband]

Whether we replace Poch or not, it wont save our season. The players are unmotivated because they will not be here next season and will be leaving for free. This is all Levy's fault.

whilst i agree Levy takes some blame, the performances, squad harmony, selections, tactics are squarely at Poch’s feet. the last 9 months or so are his doing.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

This thread almost needs locking until people have calmed down. Yes we should have had a DM on the pitch, Winks for all that is good in his game isn't a DM. But Poch can't b blamed for individual mistakes that gave them the ball in dangerous areas, that is on the players. I'm pissed and something isn't right but blaming the manager for players fucking up is ridiculous. We do desperately need a DM though if he isn't going to play Dier anymore.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Sorry, not having that a capitulation like that is Levy's fault. We were decent in the first half. How is the players giving up in the second half therefore Levy's fault.

 

[mrlilywhite]

I wish he would drop the players he doesnt want. But he wont. He used to drop them to prove a point but that went away last year because Levy forced his hand and refused to buy or sell anyone. Toby, Jan, Rose, Eriksen, Serge, Sissoko really should not be in the team. Winks shouldnt be in the XI. It's absurd. Poch's selections and his remarks in the press do nothing to help matters but the underlying cause of all this is Levy.

You sound like you are ITK? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the actual idea that Poch wanted players that were out of our range prompted the comments from him that there was no one that could improve the team that was total bollocks! Poch has had it coming to him for a long while now. How many times in match threads has there been so much talk about his one-dimensional approach? How many times has he had made changes that change the game? If I'm totally honest, Poch has been found out and isn't the bloody messiah we all thought he was and has been winging it for far too long. Your Love in for Poch is admirable but foolish in equal measure.

 

[mike_l]

Which manager would even come here? Someone who plays good football, uses a mix of both youth and purchased talent (let's face levy isn't suddenly going to splash the cash all the time now), is tactically adept, and is an excellent man-manager? That's what we need and I don't see anyone available who ticks those boxes. Mourinho would have a fit when he sees his allocated budget each summer.

Yeah we'd be lucky to get big Dave from the markets to give up his Sunday League position for us, fucking nobodies that we are.

 

[King of the Lane]

Bring in Allegri

 

[WiganSpur]

Which manager would even come here? Someone who plays good football, uses a mix of both youth and purchased talent (let's face levy isn't suddenly going to splash the cash all the time now), is tactically adept, and is an excellent man-manager? That's what we need and I don't see anyone available who ticks those boxes. Mourinho would have a fit when he sees his allocated budget each summer.

For me, one of Allegri, Ancelotti or Tuchel for a nice mix of youth and experience. Not sure we should pull the trigger until somebody else is available and good enough otherwise. Mourinho just doesn't fit long term.

 

[g_harry]

I hope its not the end of Poch. The players need docked a months wages minimum for that and give to charity. Lets be honest thats the real issue with Verts, Toby, Eriksen, Rose, Serge. They all think they should be playing for Real and earning twice what their getting. Fucking sickening the money they ear and thats the attitude. The begining of the end was when we sold the best full-back in thr league and didnt replace him properly sold the best midfielder in the league and didnt replace him.

 

[Hakkz]

Couple of thinks where I think Poch is at odds with the dressing room;

1) the Kane ht talk in Ajax, more than one player mentioned it, Poch shot it down.

2) actively trying to sell rose, then playing him ahead of Davies.

3) trying to make a point at start of season with regards Verts, which has ultimately back fired on him.

4) openly discussing the dressing room “unrest” in his press conferences

I know this is outside-looking-in but this very much seems end of the road for Poch. I think he’s lost the love and motivation for the job.

How about subbing on Wanyama ahead of Dier and Skipp?

 

[richard_gleeson]

honestly, if Mourinho or Allegri is remotely interested, we have to move now to save our season.

Only if mourinho isn't the sulky version