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Spurger King

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OMG - just went and had a nosey and he's all for Ancelloti.

:cry::cry::cry:

I’d be up for Ancelloti.

My preferred option would be to give Pochettino time. Ndombele is getting up to speed, and our other big summer signings are injured. I think our problems are a mix of a frustrated Pochettino, a series of injuries, contract issues, and the massive disappointment for all concerned after losing the CL final.

I’m certainly no happy clapper, but he’s definitely earned the right to turn things around. We’ve had some tough fixtures early on, and actually haven’t done that badly in terms of results.
 

shelfboy68

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to be honest, if Foyth was fit it would be a better option than not having 1, which I believe is a problem. neither Winks or Ndombele sit deep enough.
Somebody definitely needs to sit deeper no question but also our fullbacks are too easily got at there are quite a few issues for poch to sort out.
 

theShiznit

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I'm not quite ready for a regime change yet :(

Poch has bought some of the happier times I've had as a fan. and I've seen so many bad changes that i don't wish to go back to a revolving door of shitness.

Still hope he can turn it around but it's getting tougher to see happening with every capitulation, press conference, bizarre substitutions, and uncharacteristic displays from better players.

Also I've noticed recently Jan being lumped in with those wanting to leave, when i had only heard he wants a new contract and wants to stay
Has something come out to the contrary?
 
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I’d be up for Ancelloti.

My preferred option would be to give Pochettino time. Ndombele is getting up to speed, and our other big summer signings are injured. I think our problems are a mix of a frustrated Pochettino, a series of injuries, contract issues, and the massive disappointment for all concerned after losing the CL final.

I’m certainly no happy clapper, but he’s definitely earned the right to turn things around. We’ve had some tough fixtures early on, and actually haven’t done that badly in terms of results.

Ancelotti is generally underrated imo.

With Poch, I'd rather he just be honest with us as well. By that, I mean that if his heart isn't in it any more (working on that possible assumption from here on), I think there should be a mutual thing where he tells us.

I wouldn't want us to give him time if he's not got it in him to turn it around. Similar with Eriksen - not having someone is less damaging than having them and them not wanting to be there.

I say that because it'll damage his future more than ours - he doesn't have any managerial honours, which tends to win a free pass on the managerial ring-road at top clubs. AVB did, but he still went from being courted by the same clubs that Poch has, to Russia and the Ligue 1 - if he left us in that summer, he'd probably have had a go at one of the top clubs.
 

Lighty64

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Somebody definitely needs to sit deeper no question but also our fullbacks are too easily got at there are quite a few issues for poch to sort out.

with a back 4, I think our FB's are too narrow at times, which gives an attacking team more room to hit us wide. though yesterday and especially Palace I thought Rose and Aurier did ok. I didn't think they weren't at fault for the goals, and unless we start bus parking there will always be the odd time the ball is slipped between FB and CB.

I know Sanchez definitely isn't a FB, but unless Poch is going to stop rotating every game, someone had to play there v Arsenal and Olympiakos (don't ask my views on that, my viewing was unviewable).
 

Spurger King

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Ancelotti is generally underrated imo.

With Poch, I'd rather he just be honest with us as well. By that, I mean that if his heart isn't in it any more (working on that possible assumption from here on), I think there should be a mutual thing where he tells us.

I wouldn't want us to give him time if he's not got it in him to turn it around. Similar with Eriksen - not having someone is less damaging than having them and them not wanting to be there.

I say that because it'll damage his future more than ours - he doesn't have any managerial honours, which tends to win a free pass on the managerial ring-road at top clubs. AVB did, but he still went from being courted by the same clubs that Poch has, to Russia and the Ligue 1 - if he left us in that summer, he'd probably have had a go at one of the top clubs.

The only thing that I worry about (and this is me probably being paranoid), is that he’s using us to experiment tactical ideas for his own personal development.
 

ardiles

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I like Poch to be here for the long haul but pls ....

No more Wanyama (sadly, his time at the top is now over)
No more Sanchez at RB
No more midfield diamond
No more playing his favourites when they’re off-form
No more public statements about wanting to leave the club (keep that info private, within the club)
 

Metalhead

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Go back to last season when SS give Neville the platform to top up Pochettino during commentary. It was fucken disgusting.
Neville has a go at loads of people though - that doesn't mean he's anti Spurs. He also called Daniel Levy the 'best operator in football' fairly recently. I think people forget that we are fans whereas a lot of these pundits aren't.
 

spursfan77

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Somebody definitely needs to sit deeper no question but also our fullbacks are too easily got at there are quite a few issues for poch to sort out.

Playing a defensive midfielder would pretty much sort both those situations out though wouldn’t it.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Playing a defensive midfielder would pretty much sort both those situations out though wouldn’t it.
I think that’s our biggest issue. If you scratch Wanyama, we’re left with Dier and Skipp. Dier is either permanently injured or he’s had a fall out with Poch because he’s currently our most experienced CDM
 

spursfan77

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I think that’s our biggest issue. If you scratch Wanyama, we’re left with Dier and Skipp. Dier is either permanently injured or he’s had a fall out with Poch because he’s currently our most experienced CDM

Dier should be playing. And by that I mean eased back in, Saturday was perfect, not chucked in for 90 minutes after being out for so long.
 

nailsy

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Not sure why people are blaming a lack of transfers from past windows on the bullshit we are being served up. Every week it's a change of formation/system/tactics. Pnot to mention players playing out of position or out of form just because they are who they are.

Pochs biggest strength as a coach is his player motivation. I can tell you as fact a lot of the senior players are far from motivated and haven't been all season. They don't like the ever changing tactics and roles they are being asked to do. Every week at training it's like starting from scratch, with another bright spark tactical plan for the next opponents.

Why this has all of a sudden become a thing I have no idea, but pochs very clear plan and philosophy all the players believed in so abundantly is very much missing atm. His happy go lucky, cheeky chappy persona has been replaced by a moody, miserable, git!.

As I've said before if Zidane got the boot tomorrow I wouldn't be upset in the slightest if Madrid came in for him now.

Well this explains why they've stopped listening to him and why they didn't "respect the plan" the other night. It sounds like we need to go back to basics and get back to working on what makes us so strong as a team. Things haven't been right with the team for a long time, but we shouldn't give up on him now. He's already got the players for the evolution of this team, but he hasn't had a chance to get them into the team yet. Let's see how things look when Sessegnon, Lo Celso and Foyth are available again.

If he goes I can't see and don't want Jose coming in. He's fine for a short term solution, but the guys a bully and a creates disharmony wherever he goes. He would eventually undo all of the good work that Poch has done. A lot of the football experts think that he's been lined up to take over at Madrid again anyway. I also can't see Levy sacking Poch if he thinks that Madrid might come in to get him if Zidane gets the boot. Financially it would make much more sense to give him time and then get Madrid to pay us however many million for him rather than for us to sack him and have to pay him compensation.
 

shelfboy68

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Playing a defensive midfielder would pretty much sort both those situations out though wouldn’t it.
Partially although I think the concentration levels all round have dropped no-one is tuned in or focused just look at Liverpool they are at game after game wtf has happened to us.
 

teok

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I'm repeating myself here but just to reassure people. Mourinho is almost certain to replace zidane sooner rather than later. Madrid want him and he wants madrid.

I'm pissed off as well at the situation but I still think we should just keep calm and get some wins under our belt and some player back etc.
 
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