The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[hakano]

I don't like these quotes from Guillem Balague
Balague says Pochettino still has to win Daniel Levy over.

He notes: "Pochettino wants to start the second project of his era at Tottenham, just as Ferguson did with his teams. It's so strange that, at the moment, Levy finds it so difficult to follow the path his coach proposes."

I just read that too and it stuck in my mind. It's clear we have the club feeding info that there is money to spend but on the other hand these comments would suggest not much will change - yes we will sign players but ones that Poch wants? The next few weeks will tell us a lot. I'm not sure it's as clear cut as we would like to believe.

 

[Shadydan]

True , but one quote from Guardiola 'You have to move on after 3 years because the players stop listening'

To him yeah.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I don't like these quotes from Guillem Balague
Balague says Pochettino still has to win Daniel Levy over.

He notes: "Pochettino wants to start the second project of his era at Tottenham, just as Ferguson did with his teams. It's so strange that, at the moment, Levy finds it so difficult to follow the path his coach proposes."

Seeing we've reportedly already put in bids for likes of Le Celso, NDombele and are actively targeting Sessegnon and Steven Bergiwyn, I find it hard to believe Poch is struggling to "win Levy over".

Balague clearly has links with Poch but I always get the impression he sensationalises a lot of the knowledge he has to make it seem like he knows more than he actually does.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

True , but one quote from Guardiola 'You have to move on after 3 years because the players stop listening'

Clearly there are plenty of examples where the quote doesn't apply , but seeing how our incredible intensity of a while back has seemingly permanently disappeared , are we confident that Poch's wonderfully successful arm around shoulder ,player's best mate
approach doesn't have a sell by date ?

I'm confident that it would be the wrong time to ditch the approach that for the first time ever has taken us to consistent CL places and the final, for a different approach just because we didn't win it at the first time of asking.

 

[wrd]

I'm confident that it would be the wrong time to ditch the approach that for the first time ever has taken us to consistent CL places and the final, for a different approach just because we didn't win it at the first time of asking.

Glad you could articulate a good reply, I was struggling for words considering peoples comments on here the past few days sound like the club just finished 9th rather than played in its first champions league final.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I'm confident that it would be the wrong time to ditch the approach that for the first time ever has taken us to consistent CL places and the final, for a different approach just because we didn't win it at the first time of asking.

Well , yes if you look further back than January and ignore Poch's assessment that our arrival at the final was a 'MIracle'

 

[Gilzeanking]

Glad you could articulate a good reply, I was struggling for words considering peoples comments on here the past few days sound like the club just finished 9th rather than played in its first champions league final.

OK , as I said Poch's approach has been 'Wonderfully successful' its not an attack on an outstanding coach . But has 2019 Spurs form ( bar CL 'miracles') not given you the slightest concern about the club's direction ?

 

[Styopa]

I'm confident that it would be the wrong time to ditch the approach that for the first time ever has taken us to consistent CL places and the final, for a different approach just because we didn't win it at the first time of asking.

Way too sensible for here.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

OK , as I said Poch's approach has been 'Wonderfully successful' its not an attack on an outstanding coach . But has 2019 Spurs form ( bar CL 'miracles') not given you the slightest concern about the club's direction ?

You can't just "bar" the good results though. They are all part and parcel of the whole thing.

Maybe without the CL run we would have picked up more league points.

It would be a huge mistake to conclude that just because there's room for improvement, what we've been doing so far is wrong.

 

[wrd]

OK , as I said Poch's approach has been 'Wonderfully successful' its not an attack on an outstanding coach . But has 2019 Spurs form ( bar CL 'miracles') not given you the slightest concern about the club's direction ?

No I have zero concern about the club direction, can you name me a single time in the history of football where a club has had to deal with the following factors

- A stadium delay off over 2/3rds of a campaign and then navigating moving in
- 9 Players in the semi final of the world cup
- Subsequent ridiculous injury list
- Not a single transfer made and also losing a key midfielder in the middle of the campaign

Clubs have had to deal with maybe 1 of those factors but all of those and to manage to make top4, semi final of a domestic trophy which was a loss on penalties missing our 3 main attackers and a Champions League final.

How can you not with all of those circumstances and still delivering those results give the team the benefit of the doubt, How can you be concerned with the direction of the club when you haven't even given them a chance of a full season in the new stadium, it's ridiculous.

Most teams know that the first full season in a new stadium is a difficult bedding in process, people in our fanbase are concerned by the direction of the club after less than 10 games in ours, it's astonishing.

 

[newbie]

True , but one quote from Guardiola 'You have to move on after 3 years because the players stop listening'

Clearly there are plenty of examples where the quote doesn't apply , but seeing how our incredible intensity of a while back has seemingly permanently disappeared , are we confident that Poch's wonderfully successful arm around shoulder ,player's best mate
approach doesn't have a sell by date ?

i think we have adapted, before we had to level the playing field as our players were inferior hence the high press, now we play a different brand of football so we don't burn out over the season our players are far technically and maybe tactically better, this season was interruption after interruption players kept getting injured I think that was due to the world cup and no break and preseason. Look at Son he had 2 weeks off to train and came back a god! We were down to one central midfielder who had just been out for 2 years, then we had a period without Ali, Kane, Son, i think Mora was out at the time as well, when we played Chelsea away in the semis and city in the league away we barely had an attacking player left.

 

[Gilzeanking]

OK guys , I'm clearly more worried than you about the tailing off of our intensity in recent times . I'm sure we all hope things will be on the up next season .

But I was 'agreed' by an ITK when I posted that I reckoned Poch was freaked out by intensity loss and the large number of defeats this year . Again not solid evidence of course , but a worry for me about our club .

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I just read that too and it stuck in my mind. It's clear we have the club feeding info that there is money to spend but on the other hand these comments would suggest not much will change - yes we will sign players but ones that Poch wants? The next few weeks will tell us a lot. I'm not sure it's as clear cut as we would like to believe.

it’s Balague, he’s Paul Jiggins with an accent. When writing thee book maybe it was worth paying attention to him, now he’s just a sad little man trying to make himself stand seem important.

Seeing we've reportedly already put in bids for likes of Le Celso, NDombele and are actively targeting Sessegnon and Steven Bergiwyn, I find it hard to believe Poch is struggling to "win Levy over".

Balague clearly has links with Poch but I always get the impression he sensationalises a lot of the knowledge he has to make it seem like he knows more than he actually does.

His only link with Pochettino was writing a book, which came out well over a year ago. I sincerely doubt they’ve done more than exchange the off text here and there. He’s trying to make his connection seem more than what it is.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

OK guys , I'm clearly more worried than you about the tailing off of our intensity in recent times . I'm sure we all hope things will be on the up next season .

But I was 'agreed' by an ITK when I posted that I reckoned Poch was freaked out by intensity loss and the large number of defeats this year . Again not solid evidence of course , but a worry for me about our club .

Yes, but you're doing that reading between the lines thing again.

He might have been "freaked out", pissed off to whatever. But that doesn't mean he didn't understand why it was happening. And as several people have pointed our already, there were very good reasons for it.

 

[sunnydelight786]

For once I wish the manager would just come out and say ‘I’m staying & very happy with my job’ as opposed to sitting on the fence all the time sending out mixed messages.

Klopp was asked last week about a reports linking him to Juve. His response left no room for this link to go any further by saying he’s staying using very fruitful language. End of link!

 

[spursfan77]

True , but one quote from Guardiola 'You have to move on after 3 years because the players stop listening'

Clearly there are plenty of examples where the quote doesn't apply , but seeing how our incredible intensity of a while back has seemingly permanently disappeared , are we confident that Poch's wonderfully successful arm around shoulder ,player's best mate
approach doesn't have a sell by date ?

It’s something I’ve been saying over the last 6 months that might be happening to a degree. It’s only human nature, hence it’s why we need a change in playing staff this summer.

 

[newbie]

I just read that too and it stuck in my mind. It's clear we have the club feeding info that there is money to spend but on the other hand, these comments would suggest not much will change - yes we will sign players but ones that Poch wants? The next few weeks will tell us a lot. I'm not sure it's as clear cut as we would like to believe.

but if he didn't say anything who the fuck would Guillem Balague be, he makes a career from start rumors and speculates its how he gets paid, not to mention its a great way to get encourage Levy to put a hand in Joe Lewis pocket.

 

[mrlilywhite]

No I have zero concern about the club direction, can you name me a single time in the history of football where a club has had to deal with the following factors

- A stadium delay off over 2/3rds of a campaign and then navigating moving in
- 9 Players in the semi final of the world cup
- Subsequent ridiculous injury list
- Not a single transfer made and also losing a key midfielder in the middle of the campaign

Clubs have had to deal with maybe 1 of those factors but all of those and to manage to make top4, semi final of a domestic trophy which was a loss on penalties missing our 3 main attackers and a Champions League final.

How can you not with all of those circumstances and still delivering those results give the team the benefit of the doubt, How can you be concerned with the direction of the club when you haven't even given them a chance of a full season in the new stadium, it's ridiculous.

Most teams know that the first full season in a new stadium is a difficult bedding in process, people in our fanbase are concerned by the direction of the club after less than 10 games in ours, it's astonishing.

I agree with all of this. I was having a debate with a gooner mate about how they finished just 1 point behind us and he said about the progress they had made, albeit slight under Emery. I was quick to point out pretty much the above and his answer was that it could happen to any team and the table doesn't lie. At that point, I just looked at him with the "are you that stupid" look. Deep down he knew that had we not had the issues above then we would have finished 3rd and likely by some margin.

Right now we have an opportunity to really progress, but as always it is dependant on whether Levy/Lewis has either the desire or the funds to move us up to that level. Time will tell, but if we don't invest to compete then the possible fallout could be that it sets us back quite a bit. For me what we do during this transfer season will be a real watershed moment.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

People have pointed out that we're on the same position as Liverpool were last year.

I doubt we'll go as hard and as fast as they did in the market to address the gaps Klopp identified though.

This is the issue and perhaps we need to accept that Champs League qualification and going deep into cups is where our owners think we should aim for as opposed to other teams who are buy and are built with the expressed intention of winning things not just being competitive.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Wow, grammar much?

Apologies ?