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alexis

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That backing was possible though because they keep selling their very best players for big money.
Point applies to other clubs managers as well but since 11/12 season there has only been two seasons where they were in a positive net spend with more than 150mill being spent on players during this time. Does this figure include agents fees as this is one of the points (sorry don't know if these figures do include agents fees)
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-liverpool/alletransfers/verein/31
 

LeParisien

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One of the reasons that we didn't make a big tactical switch until half time is because Poch's staff have a bunch of video clips put together of things done well and things done poorly so they can demonstrate exactly what they want from the players. Maybe that's something they can look at improving themselves - sending the team out with a couple of alternate plans in their heads that can be switched to. But we saw in the United game that making a structural change in mid-flow (after the Sissoko injury) contributed to the Rashford goal.

I think it's tough to judge Poch too harshly on the defeat last night. Had we had the big three up front, or even just one or two of them I'm sure we would have carried a greater goal threat and had a better chance of going through. The amount of spirit shown by the players was brilliant imo, and that's something that not a lot of managers are able to achieve at the top level these days. I reckon we will achieve more success via that team spirit rather than pinpoint tactics... but that's just my opinion.

The semi-final hoodoo is an odd one but I would hope that it's just something we need to shake off, like the "Wembley curse" and our terrible records at Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge and the Emirates. We've been able to put those to bed in recent years so with a bit of perseverance I'm confident we will get to a final before too long.

I had a quick look at the semi-finalists since 2015. The top 6 panned out like this; Chelsea 5, Liverpool/City/Spurs 4, Arsenal/United 3. The trophies go 2 each to Chelsea/City/Arsenal/United. So we're doing something right and just need to keep knocking on that door. We've reached the same number of domestic semi-finals and won the same number of domestic trophies as Liverpool in that time so it can't be all doom and gloom.
I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for contributing
 

Primativ

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You are being so shortsighted it’s unreal. We’ve always pretty much been a player or two short of truly challenging. If he’d have had the kind of backing klopps received with salaries and agents fees he’d have smashed it by now.

Are you seriously telling me over the last four years, it was a lack of signing players that meant we lost to Chelsea in the FA Cup Semi Final? United in the FA Cup Semi Final? That is nonsense. In both games we practically fielded the stronger starting 11. We lost because we just never turn up on the day to get the job done. That is surely an issue of Poch and his team no?

I think you are being so deluded its unreal.

The fact remains that we have had a very very strong starting 11, stronger than most in the league bar City, yet we have won fuck all.
 

hakano

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Are you seriously telling me over the last four years, it was a lack of signing players that meant we lost to Chelsea in the FA Cup Semi Final? United in the FA Cup Semi Final? That is nonsense. In both games we practically fielded the stronger starting 11. We lost because we just never turn up on the day to get the job done. That is surely an issue of Poch and his team no?

I think you are being so deluded its unreal.

The fact remains that we have had a very very strong starting 11, stronger than most in the league bar City, yet we have won fuck all.

Go back and watch the games again. Check the teams and come back and post. The Chelsea FA semi final - who did they bring off the bench and who did we have to bring on? The truth is we do not have a strong squad - blame Poch all you like but we are punching way above our weight. Resources and budgets suggest we should be 6th, we’re finishing 2/3rd for the last three years running and that is down to one man alone. We are lucky to have him. Let’s enjoy it and get behind him. Question others at the club not him.
 

Primativ

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Go back and watch the games again. Check the teams and come back and post. The Chelsea FA semi final - who did they bring off the bench and who did we have to bring on? The truth is we do not have a strong squad - blame Poch all you like but we are punching way above our weight. Resources and budgets suggest we should be 6th, we’re finishing 2/3rd for the last three years running and that is down to one man alone. We are lucky to have him. Let’s enjoy it and get behind him. Question others at the club not him.

We had Kane on the pitch they had costa on the bench ffs. They started with that world renowned striker Batshuayi.

Stop deflecting. The fact is we have under performed in big cup games under Poch.
 

Shadydan

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Are you seriously telling me over the last four years, it was a lack of signing players that meant we lost to Chelsea in the FA Cup Semi Final? United in the FA Cup Semi Final? That is nonsense. In both games we practically fielded the stronger starting 11. We lost because we just never turn up on the day to get the job done. That is surely an issue of Poch and his team no?

I think you are being so deluded its unreal.

The fact remains that we have had a very very strong starting 11, stronger than most in the league bar City, yet we have won fuck all.

You sound like a rival fan, it's actually incredible. Been spending too much time on Redcafe I think.

You say that with the squad we have now we should be winning something but totally miss the point that Poch built this team and he's the reason why we are up there and are now being considered a top team and a team that should be winning titles. What were we doing before Poch arrived, what kind of players did we have in the team and where were we finishing? How good were the likes of Eriksen, Vertonghen, Rose, Kane etc...before he came in, people weren't talking about them being amongst the best in their respective positions in the league let alone the world - this is all Poch's doing.

Despite the fact that we are now competing with 5 teams who are richer and have vastly more resources than us and amongst a top 6 as competitive as ever why do you insist that winning a trophy will define him as a manager?

Since Poch has been here we've constantly underspent in comparison to our rivals, we didn't spend a penny in the summer ffs and you're still harping on about how he should he ought to be winning something and that defines him - sorry that's a load of shit. The guy is out here performing miracles with our team and in particular this season where we've been totally fucked by injuries due to the World Cup and the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer made his job even harder.

We don't even have a stadium for Christ sake and yet our own fans want to look past the fact that we are regularly qualifying for the top 4 despite having absolutely no right to yet all we want to harp on about is that he hasn't won a trophy at his time at Spurs, a club who have constantly underachieved anyway and don't have a recent history of winning trophies.

Some of you need to show some damn respect to our manager and appreciate the difficulties that he's facing in respect to our position as a club, the problem is that you're fully entitled and spoilt by recent 'success'.

Maybe it's a good thing we're not winning anything because it's only gonna attract clowns who are just going to expect him to churn out trophies season after season.
 
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Shadydan

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We had Kane on the pitch they had costa on the bench ffs. They started with that world renowned striker Batshuayi.

Stop deflecting. The fact is we have under performed in big cup games under Poch.

Of course the irony is that Batshuayi would have been a Spurs player until Chelsea offered him higher wages.

They brought on Fabregas, Hazard and Costa, we bought on Walker and Nkoudou, Sissoko was about to come on as well, I remember that day I was there and those three changes totally swung the game in their favour.

Youre either deflecting or missing the point, the point was that we didn't have a strong squad in comparison to our rivals which is a big factor as to why they can go deep in competitions.

The only game I was left disappointed with is the Fa Cup semi Man Utd match last season, don't think we turned up for that but you can excuse the others.
 

hakano

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You sound like a rival fan, it's actually incredible. Been spending too much time on Redcafe I think.

You say that with the squad we have now we should be winning something but totally miss the point that Poch built this team and he's the reason why we are up there and are now being considered a top team and a team that should be winning titles. What were we doing before Poch arrived, what kind of players did we have in the team and where were we finishing? How good were the likes of Eriksen, Vertonghen, Rose, Kane etc...before he came in, people weren't talking about them being amongst the best in their respective positions in the league let alone the world - this is all Poch's doing.

Despite the fact that we are now competing with 5 teams who are richer and have vastly more resources than us and amongst a top 6 as competitive as ever why do you insist that winning a trophy will define him as a manager?

Since Poch has been here we've constantly underspent in comparison to our rivals, we didn't spend a penny in the summer ffs and you're still harping on about how he should he ought to be winning something and that defines him - sorry that's a load of shit. The guy is out here performing miracles with our team and in particular this season where we've been totally fucked by injuries due to the World Cup and the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer made his job even harder.

We don't even have a stadium for Christ sake and yet our own fans want to look past the fact that we are regularly qualifying for the top 4 despite having absolutely no right to yet all we want to hard on about is that he hasn't won a trophy at his time at Spurs, a club who have constantly underachieved anyway and don't have a recent history of winning trophies.

Some of you need to show some damn respect to our manager and appreciate the difficulties that he's facing in respect to our position as a club, the problem is that you're fully entitled and spoilt by recent 'success'.

Maybe it's a good thing we're not winning anything because it's only gonna attract clowns who are just going to expect him to churn out trophies season after season.

Well said. Some of our fans deserve the dross we had previously.

Like Poch said you can only miss a penalty if you’re man enough to take it. Poch is the bollocks and is working miracles, they can knock him all they like but he’s the sole reason they’ve raised their expectations.
 

Coco-1101

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We had Kane on the pitch they had costa on the bench ffs. They started with that world renowned striker Batshuayi.

Stop deflecting. The fact is we have under performed in big cup games under Poch.
and what we have achieved in Levy era before poch?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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I get that and agree, but a lot believed that it would lead to is being attractive to big players. Not the case as evidenced with Rabiot, Morata etc.
It’s about wages (for a lot of players)

The Rabiot deal is still on, Morata knew he wasn't good enough to play regularly for us.
 

HarryKane

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Wonderful man though he is, sometimes I just can’t understand our manager’s thought process.
Lots of injuries and players need rest so he rotates with what he has. It is also not his fault players should've scored (GK and Trippier's penalty), handball in the area for their pen and defend poorly for the first goal, that is on the players.

This is the entire reason why you have a deep squad filled with quality so you can compete in multiple competitions year in year out.
 

Shadydan

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Lots of injuries and players need rest so he rotates with what he has. It is also not his fault players should've scored (GK and Trippier's penalty), handball in the area for their pen and defend poorly for the first goal, that is on the players.

This is the entire reason why you have a deep squad filled with quality so you can compete in multiple competitions year in year out.

He should have at least put Eriksen on the bench today, he'll get criticised for that an rightly so.
 

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Lots of injuries and players need rest so he rotates with what he has. It is also not his fault players should've scored (GK and Trippier's penalty), handball in the area for their pen and defend poorly for the first goal, that is on the players.

This is the entire reason why you have a deep squad filled with quality so you can compete in multiple competitions year in year out.
We do have a deep squad, it’s just decimated.

I more meant that he picks a 6ft5 striker but we never play an early ball to him, tactical genius that.

Second half penny clearly dropped but damage was done.
 

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He should have at least put Eriksen on the bench today, he'll get criticised for that an rightly so.
And what happens if he plays Eriksen (who Poch said is exhausted) and he gets injured? We've had ITK from Herc that he was nursing an abdominal injury all season.

Bottom line is that depth sucks.
 

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Poch is a funny one. In spite of his public insistence that we are fine with the injuries he clearly put out a weak side today, effectively sacrificing the cup for the league
 
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