The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Amo]

I just wish someone he likes could go and shout WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU PLAYING AT MAN PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER.

It makes me almost want to cry but I seriously think he can't turn this around now.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Obviously. That's why he asked you to elaborate.

What? What is obvious? Did the bolded part of my reply not show up in your browser?

 

[SpursSince1980]

Fascinated to see how long Levy is willing to let this go. Clearly he and Poch have a fairly strong and respectful relationship, but business comes first. And if you look at our results from an impartial perspective since the beginning of the calendar year, it’s rather damning for the manager. So, will Daniel sit by and watch the team limp along until the end of the year, with the hope that maybe things get turned around by the best coach he’s ever had at the club? Who has earned the right to fight. Or, does he pull the plug while there’s still time to salvage the season? Really a tough call. But if I were him, I would sort this out quickly. And the best way to do is to have an honest chat with six or seven of the players. That will tell him if his coach has lost the dressing room, or if it’s more a question of them feeling like they’re playing poorly and still want to get behind Poch. My sense is that it’s likely the former. And if that’s what Levy gets from the players, then he’ll have to do what is best for the club, and do it sooner rather than later.

 

[felmani26]

Anyone think Poch is rotating to fuck because he's actually going to go for a domestic pot this season?

No.

He doesn't know his best 11.

 

[Phomesy]

It's just sad to see us play nowadays. Despite having a much better squad nowadays, this team looking very much like its from the AVB era.

Huh? That might have been true of the Newcastle game but since then we've played an exhausting completely open derby against Arsenal; thumped Palace; been caught wide open by an enterprising Olympiacos team yet still took a 2 nil lead

And today was, up until VAR chalked off Aurier's goal, pretty much the consummate away performance. The only good chance they had was a keeper error and while we started the second half slowly we'd taken control and the Aurier's "goal" felt very much deserved.

Complain about results and worry about trends, sure, but people seem to be making up a fantasy about our style of play. Whatever we've been since Newcastle it hasn't been "boring AVB".

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Jesus fucking Christ....

Yes?

 

[Wick3d]

No.

He doesn't know his best 11.

It doesn't help that Lo Celso is injured. Especially with him being Eriksen's replacement and Eriksen himself not being at the races cos his head is so far up his own arse. Doesn't help really.

 

[sidford]

results for calendar year 2019. That makes for very bad reading and points per game average takes a big hit if we just go for last 20 games we would have 25 points.
Something clearly very wrong and its very hard not to think we'll be back playing Thursday night football very very soon and reminiscing about the good auld days of CL footie and being difficult to beat

 

[spursfan77]

Have we gone off the rails since he didn’t get the Man Utd job. Seems to be pretty coincidental. Not that we were setting the world on fire before then.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We should be careful what we wish for. Or is that we've been careful what we wish for and look where its got us.

I'm so confused.

 

[John48]

No.

He doesn't know his best 11.

Not sure that's true I think it's more about he believes his FB's do the most work, so he likes to rotate them & he likes to freshen up the side after CL games.

 

[rossdapep]

Self evident.

Okay as you can't be bothered (or actually have no argument and just want to troll) I will say why its not bollocks.

Imagine we end the season 5th with no trophies.

Scenario 1 - Poch leaves or is asked to leave. We will no longer be able to attract the Allegris or Mourinhos, for some that's fine. But do we go down the Eddie Howe route who is a fine coach but not a winner? The next step for us is to win stuff. Secondly the likes of Kane, Alli and whoever else think "Howe? I want to win something. I want a proven winner otherwise I'll go elsewhere and find one". Also those out of contract will definitely leave. Definitely.

Scenario 2 - Poch stays, the players out of contract leave anyway as they are tired of the regime and want something new. Kane, as much as he loves Poch, starts to wonder if he'll win anything at the club as he's 27 and approaching 30. Okay, he may not go but its the start of his doubts. Alli is probably prepared to stay longer as he's younger but he's probably thinking of another destination.

Either way, we are in a scenario where a large amount of big players are leaving or are having doubts. We are likely going to need another mass repair job which will set us back another couple of years.

Or

Either Poch turns this around, gets players back on side and we get CL comfortably, win something and look forward instead of looking unsettled. Or, should Poch not turn this around, another coach comes in, breathes new energy and gets the players believing they can win stuff again.

Anything other than those last two options will set us back even further and it'll be harder to get back this time.

 

[DCSPUR]

Levy doesn't fire Poch this season for many reasons but the bond issue is the main one.
Poch doesn't walk this season.
We will finish in the top 4.

 

[Blake Griffin]

just going to put this out there as it doesn't matter now but when the whole poch/utd thing was going on spurs had lopetegui lined up as his replacement had he left. he's at sevilla now though so unlikely to revisit that one if poch was to go.

 

[rossdapep]

Fascinated to see how long Levy is willing to let this go. Clearly he and Poch have a fairly strong and respectful relationship, but business comes first. And if you look at our results from an impartial perspective since the beginning of the calendar year, it’s rather damning for the manager. So, will Daniel sit by and watch the team limp along until the end of the year, with the hope that maybe things get turned around by the best coach he’s ever had at the club? Who has earned the right to fight. Or, does he pull the plug while there’s still time to salvage the season? Really a tough call. But if I were him, I would sort this out quickly. And the best way to do is to have an honest chat with six or seven of the players. That will tell him if his coach has lost the dressing room, or if it’s more a question of them feeling like they’re playing poorly and still want to get behind Poch. My sense is that it’s likely the former. And if that’s what Levy gets from the players, then he’ll have to do what is best for the club, and do it sooner rather than later.

Problem with that approach is that if Poch finds out it could be damaging for the club. Also, the players will realise they have the power, so if Poch tells them something they don't like, they won't listen.

They'll be ears around the club. Let's just hope it's honest and not shit stirring

 

[Lighty64]

How much longer is levy going to put up with this. It’s not going to have escaped him. No top 4 and he’ll be gone at the end of the season I suspect.

why does the January to May results count. They are history now, and don't have any meaning to what might happen this season.

 

[bubble07]

Add Allegri in and I agree, but something needs to change.

Even Alegri despite his medals hasnt done it in the PL

 

[dagraham]

Perhaps Poch thought that and then started to see aspects that had him concerned and now he thinks the opposite.

Most big clubs would ensure Toby and Jan are the primary pairing until they reach 34 years as CBs tend to be able to keep going longer. Although it's a difficult one as Sanchez and Foyth need game time, however ditching both Toby and Jan would set us back massively as Foyth and Sanchez are still very immature.

A pretty quick turnaround if so. He only said it this summer.

 

[rossdapep]

Huh? That might have been true of the Newcastle game but since then we've played an exhausting completely open derby against Arsenal; thumped Palace; been caught wide open by an enterprising Olympiacos team yet still took a 2 nil lead

And today was, up until VAR chalked off Aurier's goal, pretty much the consummate away performance. The only good chance they had was a keeper error and while we started the second half slowly we'd taken control and the Aurier's "goal" felt very much deserved.

Complain about results and worry about trends, sure, but people seem to be making up a fantasy about our style of play. Whatever we've been since Newcastle it hasn't been "boring AVB".

I agree. I'm worried about where we are heading but our last three league performances have been positive in aspects, cant criticise that and it's certainly not AVB era. Defensively worrying though.

 

[rossdapep]

A pretty quick turnaround if so. He only said it this summer.

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