The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[shelfboy68]

Reluctantly, I think Poch going would be best for both parties. He's been fantastic but I wonder if the consistent 'nearly men' end results have burned him out.

People bemoan a manager like Jose etc, but would the football be any worse than it currently is? At least he is a winner with a proven track record of winning trophies.

People get fixated that the football would be shit, but

The game is about glory, not playing fancy stuff and coming short every time...

We are not even playing fancy stuff it's slow predictable bollocks and we are too easily got at.

 

[lami]

Can someone do a poll? Poch in or Poch out? I am very curious to know what people are thinking.

One was done on facebook earlier on, last time I looked it was 77% in favour of Poch staying

 

[nav007_2000]

Jose would work wonders with our team.

 

[SugarRay]

Put Mourinho in charge and we'll see Sanchez start over Verts every week, Wanyama and Dier form a double pivot in DCM and the football will be turgid. Mourinho's era has been and gone.

Perhaps. I’m not so sure though. His next job he needs a young, hungry, impressionable squad to work with.
He also needs realistic expectation from the boardroom and fan base.

Will he ever get it? Maybe not. I’m not sure he’d work at our place, but you never know. I certainly don’t think he’s a relic of a bygone era though. Circumstance has to be right for him to succeed. It’s a tricky one for him, the next job.

To be fair, even in Poch’s best years and Mourinho’s worst, he was still outwitting Poch and winning trophies with a very average United team.

Anyway, Allegri is about, Benitez wouldn’t take much persuading I’m guessing. There’s plenty of proven high end managers about who’d sort the good from the bad at the club and do a good job imo.
They’d demand more input though I suspect.

I just don’t trust us to make the right call it gets to that stage. Can see someone like Eddie Howe coming in as coach and being given players he doesn’t want etc

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

I’ve been a huge fan of Poch, done things for our club we probably didn’t think would ever happen.

He’s been unfortunate. Could have easily had a league cup and CL winners medal and perhaps a league medal to his name. I feel he is one of those nearly managers - done so well, but just can’t get teams across the line.

We’ve seen poor Chelsea, Utd teams in recent years win trophies under JM, Conte, Van Gaal - when we had a much better team. Some managers just seem to be able to win.

I do think with a top manager like Alchelotti, JM, Allegri over the past 2/3 years we would have silverware to match the quality of player we have. Perhaps it may not be the case, I feel like a top top manager is the only alternative to Poch currently.

 

[Grapo2001]

I've supported Poch for his whole time at spurs but I'm seriously getting sick of us making the same mistakes. If we got a new manager in I wouldn't be surprised or bothered.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If Poch goes, my own worthless opinion is it would be Howe. Somebody Levy can still stubbornly run the transfer strategy the way he always has (grimace). It feels to me that Poch has conceded defeat to Levy, and is resigning himself to walking end of season.

Surely us trying for Dybala hints at Levy at least thinking about turning a corner. Not doubting your informed opinion, and, tbh, I'm not really that happy with our transfer business. Three players in two seasons for a team that seriously needs upgrading is shocking, especially if that team is supposed to be trying for cups. But even so, surely Levy would not have balls to go for Howe if we lost Poch, that would be crazy all things considered. I feel like he would be greatly out if his depth considering how adrift we seem mentally.

 

[VancouverSpur]

It’s the optimist vs pessimist vs realist debate. Some see Poch as the best thing since sliced bread while others feel he has lost the plot. The realist in me sees that there are so many factors contributing to our situation. However if you look at Poch and Poch alone and ignore all the other factors then all is not well.

His comments to the media are one thing as is his negative demeanor . However some of his tactical decisions end of last season and beginning of this have been bad. His handling of substitutions has been bad for a good while. The decision to bring on Wanyama today was borderline insanity. The team selection has been at times bizarre as has the formation.

Poch felt that he would have left if we won the Champions League and that to me says it all. Winning the CL should be a huge platform for further success not an end to a teams cycle of performance. I agree with many that the book he wrote was the beginning of the end . Books are to be written when retired with your slippers and pipe not slap bang in the middle of the best period of your career. I want Poch to succeed as much as his most ardent fan. However i feel like the genie is out of the bottle and it is now almost impossible to put it back in. We will either limp to the end of the season or Levy will act and then fuck knows what happens.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

We are not even playing fancy stuff it's slow predictable bollocks and we are too easily got at.

I don't think that's true. We were sensational against crystal palace first half. We struggle to maintain momentum, during and between games though, and I'm afraid that's to do with team selection and in game management.

 

[SugarRay]

I’ve been a huge fan of Poch, done things for our club we probably didn’t think would ever happen.

He’s been unfortunate. Could have easily had a league cup and CL winners medal and perhaps a league medal to his name. I feel he is one of those nearly managers - done so well, but just can’t get teams across the line.

We’ve seen poor Chelsea, Utd teams in recent years win trophies under JM, Conte, Van Gaal - when we had a much better team. Some managers just seem to be able to win.

I do think with a top manager like Alchelotti, JM, Allegri over the past 2/3 years we would have silverware to match the quality of player we have. Perhaps it may not be the case, I feel like a top top manager is the only alternative to Poch currently.

Oh yes absolutely. If we got rid of Poch for someone like Howe or another up and comer type I’d be massively fucked off.

Proven winner is the only answer if we are not going to give Poch time* and a free reign to do as he pleases.

* Time with this bunch of players isn’t the answer. He needs a free reign to clear out whoever he doesn’t want and bring in whoever he wants. Wanyama coming on today was absolutely pathetic and frankly, embarassing. He’s finished as a top level footballer, the fact he was almost joining a Belgian club last month, yet he’s playing games for us a few weeks later. Why and fucking how and fucking why has it come to that?

 

[thelak]

Lots of people complaining about Pochs tactics etc but right now I don’t really know what our best system or formation is and not sure many posters on here have come up with fantastic alternatives although clearly the Diamond is the least effective of his formations in his time with us

The issue to me is that we needed to keep turning over playing staff and freshening the squad up but we know have the same stale team from 2014/15 playing most of whom peaked 2 years ago especially with Lo Celso and Sess out at this point

 

[mike_l]

I don't think that's true. We were sensational against crystal palace first half. We struggle to maintain momentum, during and between games though, and I'm afraid that's to do with team selection and in game management.

Yeah and then we just stopped trying, City today were 5 up after 20 minutes, they went on to score a other 3, that's building momentum, whereas we're just happy to put our feet up and rest.

 

[Wadec]

If Pochettino walks or is pushed which I hope doesn't happen, then Brendan Rodgers would be my preferred choice. Although some of the experts in the Spurs fan base would not be happy.

Bookies favourite...

 

[JCRD]

Poch has a part to blame in all this i wont be suggesting otherwise however i think last summer fucked us over and its now coming back to bite us.

The players also need to take a hard look at themselves because there have been some awful displays this season and even last season

Our back line needs an overhaul next summer because most will end up leaving

It does feel like an end of an era and dont even think Poch will last the season

 

[King of Otters]

If Pochettino walks or is pushed which I hope doesn't happen, then Brendan Rodgers would be my preferred choice. Although some of the experts in the Spurs fan base would not be happy.

Aside from his teeth and his personality Rodgers makes perfect sense.

 

[the yid]

If we employ Howe we're fucked

 

[jolegend]

I like Howe. But you don’t build an £800m stadium, a world class training ground and the highest expectations in our history and replace Poch with Howe.

If Levy acts, then he needs someone to deliver at the highest level. And that is someone who is proven.

 

[nedley]

Surely us trying for Dybala hints at Levy at least thinking about turning a corner. Not doubting your informed opinion, and, tbh, I'm not really that happy with our transfer business. Three players in two seasons for a team that seriously needs upgrading is shocking, especially if that team is supposed to be trying for cups. But even so, surely Levy would not have balls to go for Howe if we lost Poch, that would be crazy all things considered. I feel like he would be greatly out if his depth considering how adrift we seem mentally.

It's been our downfall. But from what we've heard that is partly down to Poch as well.

We NEVER strike when the iron is hot.

 

[SugarRay]

No thanks to Rodgers. Absolute weirdo and too much of a risk. He’s won nothing of note. If Poch goes, only a proper winner will be acceptable.

 

[daveduvet]

If mourinho comes to spurs I’ll start watching the O’s.. as someone else intimidated his era has gone. There is something ‘not quite right’ going on at Spurs. Sacking Poch? Don’t think that is the answer... (I don’t have the answer, otherwise I’d be head coach)