The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Shadydan]

Is this a thing? I can't remember many (if any) players having a big issue with Klopp and there seems to be a genuine bond between a lot of them. He's a bit of a mentalist and I'm sure he's a right bastard at times, but so was Fergie. Surely if there was a real problem they wouldn't be performing so well for such a sustained period.

I was joking

 

[shelfboy68]

has the season finished?

No it hasn't but I wish you would for fucks sake lighty your constant defending of excuses is admirable but misguided I have visions of you and levy in bed together like John and Yoko, with the banner give levy and poch a chance please mate the pair of you get a room this is a public forum.

 

[Mr Pink]

has the season finished?

Yeah

Look at the table lol

 

[Shadydan]

the Brighton game changed within 3 minutes, and it wasn't Dier at fault. the only difference was yesterday after their tragedy the Everton team raised their game for Gomes, with the crowd behind them. we looked like a heads down team with only a few thousand fans behind us (a week earlier the crowd helped carry us over the line with 10 men v Southampton). with the result against Bayern a few days earlier and that incident we looked like a team that felt sorry for itself.

ok?

 

[Lighty64]

Because last season shows that this is not just a blip in form.

Pre seasons means absolutely nothing either. We won every game under Ramos in his only pre season, smashed Roma 5-0. And then proceeded to take that famous 2 points from 8 games.

Our form since January is relegation form. Everyone used the stat that we accrued the most points in 2017 as a sign we were trending in the right direction and the next step was to do it over the season rather than a year. So people cant only use that stat when it works in your favour and dismiss it when it doesn't.

We haven't won an away game since January. In that time in the league we've played;

Bournemouth
City x2
Liverpool x2
Arsenal
Southampton
Chelsea
Burnley
Leicester
Brighton
Everton

Now, 4 of those are not easy games but failing to best any of Bournemouth, Burnley and Southampton is not what I expect of this Spurs team. Our last away win was a spawny 2-1 v Fulham when we scored with the last kick of the game.

In that time we've also been beaten by:
Palace (A) FA Cup
West Ham (H)
Newcastle (H)
Colchester (A) Lge Cup

If you're ok with that then I admire your loyalty to Poch. But my loyalty is with Spurs.

I know you didn't say this but it feels like it needs to be said. Just because we were "shit in the 90s" doesnt make the current situation acceptable.

so you don't think the injury problems and having to play players with injuries, having our main 11 strongest team that trained and played twice a week every week bar injuries and only having a small break after the world cup, also remembering getting to the CoC semi final to not have some effect?

was it Poch's fault that Burnley 1st goal should have been a goal kick?

was it Poch's fault the Southampton keeper kept it at only 1-0 by halftime and that the Southampton winning free kick was taken 4-5 yards closer than the actual foul committed?

was it Poch's fault the way Trippier scored an OG v Chelsea, or Toby v Liverpool?

was it Poch's fault Son overreacted and got sent off, and then Foyth sent off within minutes of replacing him. did you really expect us to beat Bournemouth who hadn't even played 40 games that season with 9 men?

 

[slartibartfast]

No it hasn't but I wish you would for fucks sake lighty your constant defending of excuses is admirable but misguided I have visions of you and levy in bed together like John and Yoko, with the banner give levy and poch a chance please mate the pair of you get a room this is a public forum.

I ran out of breath reading that lol.

 

[EastLondonYid]

This is the game I chose to take my mrs to for her visit for the stadium as I wanted a fairly simple one

....sorry mate but........

 

[wrd]

....sorry mate but........

I got them 2 days after the city game . How was I suppose to know what was to come

 

[DFF]

Because last season shows that this is not just a blip in form.

Pre seasons means absolutely nothing either. We won every game under Ramos in his only pre season, smashed Roma 5-0. And then proceeded to take that famous 2 points from 8 games.

Our form since January is relegation form. Everyone used the stat that we accrued the most points in 2017 as a sign we were trending in the right direction and the next step was to do it over the season rather than a year. So people cant only use that stat when it works in your favour and dismiss it when it doesn't.

We haven't won an away game since January. In that time in the league we've played;

Bournemouth
City x2
Liverpool x2
Arsenal
Southampton
Chelsea
Burnley
Leicester
Brighton
Everton

Now, 4 of those are not easy games but failing to best any of Bournemouth, Burnley and Southampton is not what I expect of this Spurs team. Our last away win was a spawny 2-1 v Fulham when we scored with the last kick of the game.

In that time we've also been beaten by:
Palace (A) FA Cup
West Ham (H)
Newcastle (H)
Colchester (A) Lge Cup

If you're ok with that then I admire your loyalty to Poch. But my loyalty is with Spurs.

I know you didn't say this but it feels like it needs to be said. Just because we were "shit in the 90s" doesnt make the current situation acceptable.

I was at that preseason thrashing of Roma and it sticks out in my memory mainly because Philippe Mexes was being an absolute tart start to finish with his eminently punchable face and hairdo, but also because it gave so much false hope going into that season. Just goes to show preseasons mean nothing, even though that's where we win all our trophies.

 

[Gb160]

This is the game I chose to take my mrs to for her visit for the stadium as I wanted a fairly simple one

Take her to Ikea instead for a slap-up meatball dinner.

 

[spurs mental]

so you don't think the injury problems and having to play players with injuries, having our main 11 strongest team that trained and played twice a week every week bar injuries and only having a small break after the world cup, also remembering getting to the CoC semi final to not have some effect?

was it Poch's fault that Burnley 1st goal should have been a goal kick?

was it Poch's fault the Southampton keeper kept it at only 1-0 by halftime and that the Southampton winning free kick was taken 4-5 yards closer than the actual foul committed?

was it Poch's fault the way Trippier scored an OG v Chelsea, or Toby v Liverpool?

was it Poch's fault Son overreacted and got sent off, and then Foyth sent off within minutes of replacing him. did you really expect us to beat Bournemouth who hadn't even played 40 games that season with 9 men?

Whose fault was it then? He picks the players every week.

He puts them through their paces in double sessions as the start of the season. He watches them train. Hes never picked players if they aren't fit.

The issues are ongoing though. He continues to pick the same players who aren't cutting it. Everyone can see it except him by the looks of things. Eriksen, Rose, Aurier to name but 3. If Rose wasnt suspended yesterday he'd have played and Aurier is playing by default. Hopefully Foyth might get a run there now because Auriers head might not be right.

Look, I'm grateful for how he has transformed our club into semi-challengers, but our form is so bad that we've almost gotten to the point where we are back where we started under him, and if we're not there now we will be come May 2020.

 

[Lighty64]

No it hasn't but I wish you would for fucks sake lighty your constant defending of excuses is admirable but misguided I have visions of you and levy in bed together like John and Yoko, with the banner give levy and poch a chance please mate the pair of you get a room this is a public forum.

I'm not defending him, but don't think any other manager can change it at the moment. if we had the squad where we could actually put the 4-5 possibly 6 players into oblivion and cope without them without suffering then get a manager in that can work with what's left I'd be happy, but at the moment I honestly don't believe with his history or calling players out straight after a match, that Mourinho would be any help.

I don't rate Allegri so who the fuck do you think could work with the players we have left that actually want to play for Spurs

 

[thePessimist]

This is the game I chose to take my mrs to for her visit for the stadium as I wanted a fairly simple one

Is it too late to tell her we’re the side in the striped shirts?

 

[EastLondonYid]

I got them 2 days after the city game . How was I suppose to know what was to come

Just to cheer you up...i took my wife for her first CL game at the lane v Bayern..............plenty of goals... , and we sat in the middle of the south stand.......unobstructed view of all the germans goals....look at my sig pic..

 

[jondy1]

How much were the net spends of those two I wonder ?

Come on you are not trying to pretend if Poch had the same money as Mourinho he would have won that many trophy’s ... I wouldn’t trust him with the Xmas raffle money

 

[spurs mental]

How much were the net spends of those two I wonder ?

Net spend net spend net spend.

Poch had the core of a really good squad when he arrived here. Walker, Rose, Jan. He bought Toby and although he made them 4 into the meanest defence in the league for 2 seasons he didn't have to spend money. He got Alli for 5 million, and Wanyama for 12. The guts of the squad that challenged for the league 2 seasons on the spin was here. We didn't need much when he arrived but we needed a coach with a plan. It worked for 4 and a bit seasons but its become unstuck now.

Hes never been really all that good at buying players. We've signed a lot of duds under him. Dont tell me that hes not signing them either. Do you reallu think he just allows whoever Levy buys to join the squad.

 

[jondy1]

so you don't think the injury problems and having to play players with injuries, having our main 11 strongest team that trained and played twice a week every week bar injuries and only having a small break after the world cup, also remembering getting to the CoC semi final to not have some effect?

was it Poch's fault that Burnley 1st goal should have been a goal kick?

was it Poch's fault the Southampton keeper kept it at only 1-0 by halftime and that the Southampton winning free kick was taken 4-5 yards closer than the actual foul committed?

was it Poch's fault the way Trippier scored an OG v Chelsea, or Toby v Liverpool?

was it Poch's fault Son overreacted and got sent off, and then Foyth sent off within minutes of replacing him. did you really expect us to beat Bournemouth who hadn't even played 40 games that season with 9 men?

Zzzzzzzzz

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Still think he can turn it around but have to admit I’m perplexed by his insistence on persisting with Eriksen, can only assume it’s a political decision as it’s certainly not on merit or even logical given the contract issue...

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Say what you want about Poch, his past and how he should be viewed today, there's one decision that encapsulates his decline and provides a microcosm for the struggles of the team, and that was keeping Eriksen on for the best part of the entire match - again

To give you a sense of how bad he was, his whoscored rating was better only than Sonny's, who had a red card for his trouble.

He was dire. and yet there he was, sauntering about misplacing passes for 100 minutes of dross

It speaks volumes about Poch's state of mind that he took off NDombele, and left CE on

I don't believe he should be fired for that one decision alone - he should be fired for repeatedly making decisions like that over the course of the last 6 months

 

[shelfboy68]

I'm not defending him, but don't think any other manager can change it at the moment. if we had the squad where we could actually put the 4-5 possibly 6 players into oblivion and cope without them without suffering then get a manager in that can work with what's left I'd be happy, but at the moment I honestly don't believe with his history or calling players out straight after a match, that Mourinho would be any help.

I don't rate Allegri so who the fuck do you think could work with the players we have left that actually want to play for Spurs

Mate this squad of players regardless of new signings or an injury here and there should not be 11th in the table no way, this is a manager along with his players are under achieving massively we should at least be sitting top six comfortably.