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archiewasking

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Same happened to Leicester after their PL winning season. Granted they lost Kante who played a major role in them winning it but their defence, which was relegation quality, completely went to shit after that season.

The difference is they were intelligent and proactive in the market. That summer where, for whatever reason, Poch continually turned down players offered to him, including the likes of Brooks, Maddison, etc, has absolutely fucked us.

And Tielemans this summer, reportedly.
 

jurgen

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Same happened to Leicester after their PL winning season. Granted they lost Kante who played a major role in them winning it but their defence, which was relegation quality, completely went to shit after that season.

The difference is they were intelligent and proactive in the market. That summer where, for whatever reason, Poch continually turned down players offered to him, including the likes of Brooks, Maddison, etc, has absolutely fucked us.

As someone said, it would be good to get a 'confirmed' list of all those players he supposedly turned down. I guess when we were finishing 2nd/3rd we were in a slightly different position to Leicester in terms of rebuilding, up until this season we haven't truly dropped off like they did.

We haven't been intelligent and proactive in the market for yonks, and so it certainly isn't the Poch-led narrative you frame it as, in my opinion, but now there really is no excuse to make some sweeping changes. I still feel, or rather now hope, Poch could be the one to do that but it's looking less likely with each passing game.
 

luptic

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Rodgers might be a David brent like figure of fun, but he's an excellent coach. I wouldn't be upset if we made the change. Less exotic and fancy, but he'd do well here
What I hate about Rodgers, was is attitude towards us when he calmed that they wouldn't do a Tottenham, when they sold Suarez. I hate his arrogance more than Mourinho. The man is a tube.
 

Klinsmannic

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The manager who masterminded the 7-2 win against us has been fired after losing 5-1 at the weekend. He won the German title last season. That's how a big club takes action to keep getting better and winning.

We are now in a holding pattern with no sign of landing anytime soon, all because of finances. This slow demise makes me sad because I love Poch.
 

wadewill

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Same happened to Leicester after their PL winning season. Granted they lost Kante who played a major role in them winning it but their defence, which was relegation quality, completely went to shit after that season.

The difference is they were intelligent and proactive in the market. That summer where, for whatever reason, Poch continually turned down players offered to him, including the likes of Brooks, Maddison, etc, has absolutely fucked us.

They also didn’t fuck about sacking the man that won them that title, no matter how much he “had in the bank”

That probably saved them from proper relegation battle to be fair
 

allatsea

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The manager who masterminded the 7-2 win against us has been fired after losing 5-1 at the weekend. He won the German title last season. That's how a big club takes action to keep getting better and winning.

We are now in a holding pattern with no sign of landing anytime soon, all because of finances. This slow demise makes me sad because I love Poch.
If this “big club” hires our Manager what would you say about them then ?
 

Dr Benson

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It obviously is expensive to sack a manger and bring in a new one. An alternative is off course to bring in new players instead of sacking Poch. Offload Eriksen, Verthongen, Toby and Rose in January (if possible) and bring in some class players (if they dare and want to join us). Could maybe have more or less the same effect. Who knows..? Not saying it is the best alternative though.
 
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Id give him until the end of the season. Then its time to make the decision.
No point in thinking about sacking him now, unless the person you might have identified is available.
No other manager is going to turn this around in my opinion unless those not performing turn it around. I don't think those who are clearly not performing are capable of turning it around this season.
Some weeks ago have resigned myself to the frustration of what is on the horizon.
Mourinho and Rodgers shouldn't be even on the discussion agenda.

Oh FFS will people stop with these bollocks posts. You can't afford to give away a whole season.

Name me one manager that has turned this around? And don't SAF me, that was not after 5 years.
 
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spursfan77

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Worrying that the only things we're hearing are that things aren't harmonious behind the scenes, but also that there's no plan to change things.

People living on sentiment rather than reality is what is going to leave us in a hole. Just look at how much of a mess arsenal were after the drifted along in the latter stages of Wenger.

I'd love to Poch to have been our Wenger and be here for 20 years, but the results have to continue. Something wenger at least kept up for that lot.

It was a while ago that we heard things weren't great behind the scenes, its gone quiet on that now.

Where've we heard for definite there is no plan to change things? I must of missed it.
 

SpartanSpur

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Absolutely completely agree with this I am utterly disgusted with the opinions of these ‘fans’. They are getting what they deserve with this miserable football, shame the rest of us have to suffer along with them.

I think if anything those showing blind loyalty to Poch despite all the red flags are just as deserving of the current dross we are being served up every week.

Not sure how you can be disgusted with people that are using their head and not their heart, a lot of whom still have a lot of respect for him but can't see any other way out.

@mrlilywhite reply to you was spot on IMO.
 

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It may be helpful to think of it "the entitled" issue this way. There are reasonable Poch in, Poch out and On the Fence posters here. There are also the angry/ "fuck off" posts primarily on the Poch out side. There is zero need to denigrate a man who has brought so much to the club in order to prove your point. As Poch "on the fence" leaning towards "out", it is hard to take anything these individuals write seriously in this or any other thread. It's the old adage, "When you can't pound on the facts, pound on the table".

Good post mate. I don't think he deserves to be denigrated, also think he won't be turning it around now as this as been going on for a very long time now
 

Larryfromthelane

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I admire Levy for sticking with him, clearly believes in his 'project'. Im worried though, we have been sold a few projects over the years.

I think Poch has until Christmas to turn it around, we certainly have the players to do it.

If we dont make the champions league, which looks very likely, do we lose Kane, Son, Lo Celso and have to rebuild from scratch? How are we going to rebuild when players like Skipp and KWP are nowhere near getting starts?
 

archiewasking

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If this “big club” hires our Manager what would you say about them then ?

I'd wish Poch all the best and sign up Jose in a heartbeat. If MP continues on his current plan A strategy and being stubborn and sticking to what doesn't work, I don't think he'd last past next summer at best with Bayern.
 

allatsea

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I just hope when Poch goes as I fear he will he takes with him some of the so called Spurs supporters who have be littering many of the Spurs Chat threads. I have been on Spurs messageboards for 15 years or so and I have never witnessed so much rubbish posted about our club and so little support for it from so called supporters.
 

Stamford

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if it weren’t for the extenuating circumstances (levy) you may have a point. As it stands you don’t. Happy the whiny minority like yourself mainly doesn’t attend the games (evidenced by ‘he’s magic’ still being sung)

This is such a rubbish argument. I go to games and want him out. However I don't vocalise that in the ground, how is that useful to the players.
 

allatsea

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I'd wish Poch all the best and sign up Jose in a heartbeat. If MP continues on his current plan A strategy and being stubborn and sticking to what doesn't work, I don't think he'd last past next summer at best with Bayern.
So you would be happy replacing Poch with a Manager twice sacked by Chelsea and also sacked by Man United and Real Madrid. What is it they know bout him you don’t I wonder.
 

archiewasking

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I just hope when Poch goes as I fear he will he takes with him some of the so called Spurs supporters who have be littering many of the Spurs Chat threads. I have been on Spurs messageboards for 15 years or so and I have never witnessed so much rubbish posted about our club and so little support for it from so called supporters.

I agree there's a lot of unnecessary vitriol on here @allatsea. But doesn't the long slow decline, as another poster put it, worry you? We all love this club and sometimes emotion gets the better of people. Love does that to you.
 

stevenurse

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It was a while ago that we heard things weren't great behind the scenes, its gone quiet on that now.

Where've we heard for definite there is no plan to change things? I must of missed it.

It came from the THST minutes of their recent meeting. Levy told the meeting that not one member of the board had approached him with any concerns and nobody had mentioned the possibility of making a change (it was essentially that, obviously that wasn't word for word)
 

archiewasking

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So you would be happy replacing Poch with a Manager twice sacked by Chelsea and also sacked by Man United and Real Madrid. What is it they know bout him you don’t I wonder.

There are all lot of posts already on here stating the background with Jose. He had more than his share of prima donnas, players thinking they were bigger than their clubs, boards buying and backing players he wanted rid of. I genuinely think he's taken time out to reassess what he did well and what he could do better and we would reap the benefits of Jose's self reflection.
 
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