The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Tucker]

Funny... cos I said that too after the Pool game, but that notion was roundly rubbished by a few.
But yes, I think he is not motivating them. We aren't mentally there, and that's partly Poch to blame for that imho.
I rate him as a manager but I don't rate him THAT high as he doesn't have the experience as a manager yet. Simeone on the other hand, now he WOULD motivate the players no problem.

I think Poch is too nice as a person and although his training methods are undeniably tough, I think what he lacks is the cold ruthless streak of a madman like his countryman that would motivate players or would otherwise realize they cant take games lightly like we do. Personally, I don't think Poch will ever get to be more strict and that could be his weakness as you will need to get the winning mentality into the players somehow and its just not working for us long term.

The trouble is, as soon as you criticise Poch for a second on here, his fan girls start coming out of the wood work ironically screaming #PochOut! at you, because you can't possible criticise a football manager without wanting them fired these days.

The guy has obvious flaws, he's definitely not the finished article, we are lucky to have him, don't get me wrong, but he's far from perfect. And the last few results are highlighting that.

 

[BPR_U16]

This sort of inept performance just reminds me why i want Lamela in that team though - could never say that he didnt get involved and give his all

 

[millsey]

This sort of inept performance just reminds me why i want Lamela in that team though - could never say that he didnt get involved and give his all

Problems run deeper than a guy pressing and working hard

 

[THFCSPURS19]

The City game has fucked us up. The utter battering we received throughout most of that match seems to have knocked our confidence.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

The City game has fucked us up. The utter battering we received throughout most of that match seems to have knocked our confidence.

You might be on to something; Liverpool finished what City started. Poch needs to work on playing around our opponents high press- we don't seem to be coping with that at the moment

 

[millsey]

The City game has fucked us up. The utter battering we received throughout most of that match seems to have knocked our confidence.

We only play well when we have our back 4 all in place. Vertonghan and Rose out seems to have killed us

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

We only play well when we have our back 4 all in place. Vertonghan and Rose out seems to have killed us

That's also true, but good teams find ways to cope with new weaknesses. We need a more direct back up LB, and some serious pace and a little guile to catch teams out that press us high up the pitch.

 

[Tucker]

The City game has fucked us up. The utter battering we received throughout most of that match seems to have knocked our confidence.

I think there's more to it than that. We've got a yellow streak running through us unfortunately.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

This sort of inept performance just reminds me why i want Lamela in that team though - could never say that he didnt get involved and give his all

Yes. His two main strengths of creativity and fight are sorely missing from our recent performances. Oh, and the fact he does score a lot of goals in Europa league matches - which has been used as a stick to beat him with before but my god we could have done with a rabona tonight.

 

[SugarRay]

Our attacking options when Eriksen and Lamela are not on the field are pretty damn shit

 

[WiganSpur]

The City game has fucked us up. The utter battering we received throughout most of that match seems to have knocked our confidence.

It's mostly Rose and Verts imo. Since they've been out he's fiddled around with it and we've looked piss poor ever since. Instead of being better the selection was even worse today. We've lost all our balance. It's a huge problem that needs to be addressed in the summer.

We need to be ruthless with outgoings and it's imperative that the scouts get it right this time. Strength in depth needs to be far better than it currently is.

 

[St José Dominguez]

In virtually every big game with pressure since Poch took over we've been shit. When there isn't too much pressure we look a very good team. Minute there's anything major riding on a game we collapse and look a nervous shambles of a side. We've been terrible in Europe because of this. Cups exactly the same. Even when we got to final we were poor in final and almost messed up against Sheff Utd.

I treat Poch like I do our young players, massive potential, some great things but still a lot to learn. I think there's a lot of questions that need asking because last season we collapsed when pressure was on and this season is beginning to go same way. I want him in charge for years to come but I am starting to worry whether he's a manager who is able to keep his players in right frame of mind and if he is a winner.

 

[ljinko888]

We have to find a way to play other than high press. Having talented dribblers who can break the lines of the opponents come at a premium which unfortunately seem out of our reach. Makes me sad that we were supposedly looking at Martial for £20m but didn't close the deal. For £20m combined we have N'Jie and N'Koudou

 

[DCSPUR]

In virtually every big game with pressure since Poch took over we've been shit. When there isn't too much pressure we look a very good team. Minute there's anything major riding on a game we collapse and look a nervous shambles of a side. We've been terrible in Europe because of this. Cups exactly the same. Even when we got to final we were poor in final and almost messed up against Sheff Utd.

I treat Poch like I do our young players, massive potential, some great things but still a lot to learn. I think there's a lot of questions that need asking because last season we collapsed when pressure was on and this season is beginning to go same way. I want him in charge for years to come but I am starting to worry whether he's a manager who is able to keep his players in right frame of mind and if he is a winner.

nonsense --- you don't think there was pressure against Chelsea at WHL? Against Citeh at WHL? You think there was more or less pressure coming to the Chelsea game v the Genk game? That isn't it.

Two issues - the spare parts to the best X1 not good enough and Poch really doesn't know whether he wants to stick or twist with the Europa

 

[St José Dominguez]

nonsense --- you don't think there was pressure against Chelsea at WHL? Against Citeh at WHL? You think there was more or less pressure coming to the Chelsea game v the Genk game? That isn't it.

Two issues - the spare parts to the best X1 not good enough and Poch really doesn't know whether he wants to stick or twist with the Europa

The city game was in early stages of season. It was just a tough game in which we played great. Chelsea game wasn't do or die or anything, if you think we'd have performed like that if a win meant we move above them you're living in a fantasy world.

 

[DCSPUR]

The city game was in early stages of season. It was just a tough game in which we played great. Chelsea game wasn't do or die or anything, if you think we'd have performed like that if a win meant we move above them you're living in a fantasy world.

so you think that there was more pressure on the gent game than the chelsea game....wow....not worth discussing further

 

[ebzrascal]

Poch has done well for us but when it really counts he seems to be lacking. I don`t see him as one of the elite managers as he does not seem to be able to adjust tactics or solve problems when things are going wrong. He has his way of playing and he rarely adjusts to take advantage of opposition weakness or to nullify oppositions strengths

 

[St José Dominguez]

so you think that there was more pressure on the gent game than the chelsea game....wow....not worth discussing further

Monumental need for this club to win something. Winning a derby is one thing but when there's is something massive riding on the result we fall apart. We completely capitulated when there was outside chance of title, did the same when it was about us finishing above Arsenal. We had a chance to go top last season against ten men and choked. We have been a joke in Europe. A joke in the cups. We are shocking in the away games against our PL rivals. We can beat anyone at home in a one off game.

The problem we have is we are simply not a winning club and our mentality around these games, these season defining games is all wrong. Until we change that we're not gonna achieve anything.

Don't care whether Chelsea or Gent is more pressure, the games that define if we achieve something or not we have fallen short on and we will continue to until something changes.

 

[Hercules]

When will people come to the full realistation that out squad has exceeded expectations, with limited ability? How long and far do you think that will take us? With hope the realisation will step in, in the summer. Noises in the media about Poch wanted by other clubs will be welcomed by him, to let the club step up to match his ambitions.

We are very lucky to have him. How long he stays is down to the board. Poch will be diplomatic correct, saying the right things, but don't be fooled. Let me state that I do not believe he is going anywhere.

 

[spursfan77]

It's all gone tits up since the jolly to Barcelona. Shouldn't have changed things up while on a good run.

He needs to also get the players playing for each other again. They've gone back to not even doing that!