The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Shadydan]

No one was arguing that. I don't recall ever saying he should have started. We were discussing what happened during the game not why things should or should not have occurred.

Your point was about tactics, mine was personnel.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

I just looked at the table. Can you believe we actually thought we had a great TW and now was the season to challenge Pool & City for real.

Now we're 11th place with 10 games played, 3 wins, 3 draws and 4 losses.

Can you believe it?

Fucking hell so depressing.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I just looked at the table. Can you believe we actually thought we had a great TW and now was the season to challenge Pool & City for real.

Now we're 11th place with 10 games played, 3 wins, 3 draws and 4 losses.

Can you believe it?

Fucking hell so depressing.

Last season I thought we played terrible,we were getting results though.This season we are not getting results. Poch has to know that now is the time he has to solve the problems. It doesn't look good so far

 

[DJS]

I just looked at the table. Can you believe we actually thought we had a great TW and now was the season to challenge Pool & City for real.

Now we're 11th place with 10 games played, 3 wins, 3 draws and 4 losses.

Can you believe it?

Fucking hell so depressing.

I’ve been avoiding looking at the league table lol.

 

[spursfan77]

Winks is not a DM! And unfortunately Dier has been absolutely useless for over a year now. So picking Winks in DM does not solve the problem.
Sissoko is the better option.

Agree but I don’t think any of them are suitable. I left sissoko out because I think our football would improve without him in the team. Not that I think winks is better defensively.

 

[dace]

I think WAY too much importance is attached to what managers say in press conferences. Some handle them well, some not so much.

We saw this with Redknapp, it got to the stage where literally everything he said was pounced on, spun to suit or he got hammered for it. It got ridiculous and that's how it's getting now, although admittedly, the bloke did love a camera.

So, he's to pick the team SC wants, play the tactics SC wants, sell or sign the players SC wants and every question he answers should also be answered how SC wants.

I reckon we should petition Levy to rotate us as manager, give us a week each.

We'd be perfect wouldn't we

Wouldn't we?

Can I have a week in the Summer, clueless how to manage but would enjoy the salary for a week.. Thanks in advance.

 

[spursfan77]

Im not sure why he was bought for Spurs77 but I know what he can do. He makes us more fluid and direct. More so than any of our AMs
Dembele was great.Tough.Protected the ball and layed it off but never went near the final third.The result was lots of short back and forth passes by Eriksen and co while defences were getting set.
Does Poch want NDombele to play that role? Or would he prefer to by pass Eriksen and hit passes right through to Kane and Son?
I know what I would want

I agree with you to an extent. If you remember, originally tried dembele in an attacking position when he arrived here because he didn’t know what to do with him. I think if ndombele is played there by Poch it will be a similar worry.

Anyway, let’s just get him on the pitch. He should be ahead of Eriksen in the starting XI 10 out of 10 times.

I know how I’d play him. Feeding the bullets to Son, Kane, Dele/Lamela ahead of him and then joining into attacks. Play someone next to him so he doesn’t have to worry so much defensively too. I suspect once lo Celso is up to speed it will be those two and sissoko.

 

[skaz04nik]

I respectfully disagree.

When TAA gets much more touches vs AR (meaning Pool as a team give him a ball more often), no surprise he makes more crosses (given their heatmap is pretty similar). it's driven by Klopp's tactics or in-game management rather then CE successfully defending.

Spurs (TAA used much more often)
TAA: 131 touches, 20 crosses (6 accurate), 14 longballs (11 accurate)
AR: 91 touches, 5 (1), 6 (3)

Leicester (TAA used more often)
TAA: 110 touches, 10 crosses (4 acc.), 18 longballs (5 acc.)
AR: 90 touches, 5 (1), 5 (1)

Arsenal (Taa used more often)
TAA: 108 touches, 13 crosses (3), 8 longballs (4)
AR: 98 touches, 10 (3), 5 (2)

Chelski (equal)
TAA: 75touches, 4 crosses (2), 9 longballs (1)
AR: 74 touches. 4 (1), 3 (1)

United (equal)
TAA: 112 touches, 11 crosses (2), 13 longballs (5)
AR: 111 touches, 8 (2), 5 (2)

Utd and Chelsea were games when TAA and AR have had pretty same # touches (112 vs 111) - that's why TAA and AR had more or less the same # crosses. In order to assess how well CE as individual defended vs AR we need to look at individual stats which are poor (which I have shown earlier)

 

[dagraham]

I just looked at the table. Can you believe we actually thought we had a great TW and now was the season to challenge Pool & City for real.

Now we're 11th place with 10 games played, 3 wins, 3 draws and 4 losses.

Can you believe it?

Fucking hell so depressing.

I certainly didn't believe that and thought it would still be a battle for third ( although was quietly confident). Our transfer window wasn't as great as most made out, but obviously I didn't expect the shambles we've seen so far.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

I certainly didn't believe that and thought it would still be a battle for third ( although was quietly confident). Our transfer window wasn't as great as most made out, but obviously I didn't expect the shambles we've seen so far.

We got the 3 targets Poch wanted and kept our best players. That's a good window. Regards of what has happened now.

 

[Ronwol196061]

I agree with you to an extent. If you remember, originally tried dembele in an attacking position when he arrived here because he didn’t know what to do with him. I think if ndombele is played there by Poch it will be a similar worry.

Anyway, let’s just get him on the pitch. He should be ahead of Eriksen in the starting XI 10 out of 10 times.

I know how I’d play him. Feeding the bullets to Son, Kane, Dele/Lamela ahead of him and then joining into attacks. Play someone next to him so he doesn’t have to worry so much defensively too. I suspect once lo Celso is up to speed it will be those two and sissoko.

When playing top teams Ndombele needs two MFs behind him
Weaker teams can play ND and Lo C with one DM behind them

 

[Primativ]

We got the 3 targets Poch wanted and kept our best players. That's a good window. Regards of what has happened now.

Agree it’s only seen as a bad window because Poch is managing like a clown. We have signed two excellent players and one for the future and under a different manager we’d be doing much better

 

[DJS]

I just looked at the table. Can you believe we actually thought we had a great TW and now was the season to challenge Pool & City for real.

Now we're 11th place with 10 games played, 3 wins, 3 draws and 4 losses.

Can you believe it?

Fucking hell so depressing.

And to be fair I kinda still think we did have a good transfer window, eternal optimistic in me reckons we would have maybe done better with Lo Celso and Sessegnon available, although Poch may still be playing diamond... ??

Or that would usually be viewed as a good transfer window if we perhaps hadn’t neglected squad recruitment so badly for a period before it...

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Agree it’s only seen as a bad window because Poch is managing like a clown. We have signed two excellent players and one for the future and under a different manager we’d be doing much better

How would you manage an injured player better than Poch has been then?

 

[dudu]

When TAA gets much more touches vs AR (meaning Pool as a team give him a ball more often), no surprise he makes more crosses (given their heatmap is pretty similar). it's driven by Klopp's tactics or in-game management rather then CE successfully defending.

Spurs (TAA used much more often)
TAA: 131 touches, 20 crosses (6 accurate), 14 longballs (11 accurate)
AR: 91 touches, 5 (1), 6 (3)

Leicester (TAA used more often)
TAA: 110 touches, 10 crosses (4 acc.), 18 longballs (5 acc.)
AR: 90 touches, 5 (1), 5 (1)

Arsenal (Taa used more often)
TAA: 108 touches, 13 crosses (3), 8 longballs (4)
AR: 98 touches, 10 (3), 5 (2)

Chelski (equal)
TAA: 75touches, 4 crosses (2), 9 longballs (1)
AR: 74 touches. 4 (1), 3 (1)

United (equal)
TAA: 112 touches, 11 crosses (2), 13 longballs (5)
AR: 111 touches, 8 (2), 5 (2)

Utd and Chelsea were games when TAA and AR have had pretty same # touches (112 vs 111) - that's why TAA and AR had more or less the same # crosses. In order to assess how well CE as individual defended vs AR we need to look at individual stats which are poor (which I have shown earlier)

My post was about nullifying his threat of crossing from dangerous areas, not necessarily at all.

TAA has never from the stats you have presented had 4 times as many crosses and 40+ more touches on the ball. Why is that do you think? By design or because they were seeing more joy from one side of the pitch. Genuine question.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Agree it’s only seen as a bad window because Poch is managing like a clown. We have signed two excellent players and one for the future and under a different manager we’d be doing much better

No, it's also seen as a bad window because we failed to move on virtually any of the wantaways or discontented. That's an obvious and glaring issue and I'm not sure how you missed/ignored it. Perchance were you in a rush to get the "clown" dig in?

 

[Deleted member 29446]

How would you manage an injured player better than Poch has been then?

Integrate them better perhaps?

One of Poch most clear mistakes over the years.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Integrate them better perhaps?

One of Poch most clear mistakes over the years.

TN should’ve started against Liverpool, so should Foyth over Aurier, erisken shouldn’t be playing and what’s lo celso supposed to do in 3 fucking minutes???

 

[ackie]

I wouldn't say we have a young squad anymore, prob one of the oldest now and that's part of the problem.

I think the average age of our squad is 26

 

[Ronwol196061]

No, it's also seen as a bad window because we failed to move on virtually any of the wantaways or discontented. That's an obvious and glaring issue and I'm not sure how you missed/ignored it. Perchance were you in a rush to get the "clown" dig in?

Most excuses have a smidgen of truth behind them...but with all the excuses....injuries,stadiums,refs,fans and leavers still I cant get out of my mind the fumbling of shorts passes back and forth around our box,the leaving of Winks alone as the DM versus the hit men of Bayern ,the naive choices of RB subs, the insistence if using Eriksen despite his performances,the lack of tactical nous in favour of energy management with his subs and the nonsense interviews and comments he makes.
But apart from that I think he is a likeable chap