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Bus-Conductor

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You want to throw a young player who hasn't played for the first team once and play him on his weaker side, great no pressure at all.

I'd be very surprised if Poch does that.


What's the worse that could happen, he'll get caught flat footed ball watching as someone like Mane charges through and scores ?
 

EQP

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He's always looking to get on his right foot. Not seeing it myself.

https://streamable.com/5h4h

I've watched this video like 10 times and i honestly think we should have him focus on being a winger/attacking mid. I really don't want to shackle him with defensive duties, just let him run at defenses and use his dribbling higher up the pitch.
 

DJS

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At least he'd still fulfil the Rose role with a bit more pace and purpose than Davies whilst still letting us keep the wingback formation. Id at least like us to give it a try over the next week or so for a period in one of the games. If it doesn't work then Davies can be brought on.

The only problem I see is Davies. It will be a bit of a kick in the teeth for him.

Or Davies could play left centre back?

Wimmer was given a go and not massively convincing so Davies could be in line at least next game as Vertonghen might not be quite ready.
 

St José Dominguez

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I know Poch likes to keep young players around the place but I do wonder if we slightly missed a trick with him or Onomah this season.
How much have they both really gained from being about the place this last year. Poch doesn't like to do it but I do wonder if both of them wouldn't have gained from a championship loan this past year. Both would be returning now with 30+ starts and I think it would have done both of them a lot of good.

Hard to say I guess but if idea was KWP as backup or even getting first team starts next season I would've thought 30 championship starts under his belt would put him in a better position. Let's not forget - albeit they were in PL - Rose and Walker became what they are (Poch added too) because of loans.
 

The Scarecrow

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I know Poch likes to keep young players around the place but I do wonder if we slightly missed a trick with him or Onomah this season.
How much have they both really gained from being about the place this last year. Poch doesn't like to do it but I do wonder if both of them wouldn't have gained from a championship loan this past year. Both would be returning now with 30+ starts and I think it would have done both of them a lot of good.

Hard to say I guess but if idea was KWP as backup or even getting first team starts next season I would've thought 30 championship starts under his belt would put him in a better position. Let's not forget - albeit they were in PL - Rose and Walker became what they are (Poch added too) because of loans.
You could say the same about Winks last season, but I agree. Particularly Onomah seems to have stagnated.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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I know Poch likes to keep young players around the place but I do wonder if we slightly missed a trick with him or Onomah this season.
How much have they both really gained from being about the place this last year. Poch doesn't like to do it but I do wonder if both of them wouldn't have gained from a championship loan this past year. Both would be returning now with 30+ starts and I think it would have done both of them a lot of good.

Hard to say I guess but if idea was KWP as backup or even getting first team starts next season I would've thought 30 championship starts under his belt would put him in a better position. Let's not forget - albeit they were in PL - Rose and Walker became what they are (Poch added too) because of loans.
I am not sure there is a "right" answer to loan or no-loan. Certainly getting match experience is good - but the tradeoff is that player is away from Poch's training for a year. So, he loses both the intensity of the training, and the technical aspects of the training. Going off to the Championship, where they are unlikely to want FBs or WBs who can help play the ball out of the defense, then KWP loses a valuable year of training on those tactics, and then has to spend a part of the next season, un-learning bad habits, and re-training in Poch's tactics.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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I'm too lazy to trawl through old posts and have at least 4 kids to get ready for bed so could someone on the healthy side of sensible update me on KWP:
is he good enough to step up next season?
is he a Walker or a Trippier type player?
what's his favourite colour?

Any facetious comments that make me look stupid gets a cyber slap or some serious Gris Gris voodoo shit
 

DJS

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My OCD would like young KWP to be given the vacant number 22 jersey next season as is an awesome right-back number.
 

The Swellhead Spur

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Two seasons is long enough to spend as a squad player - after that it's time for a player to move on and become a starter somewhere else. It's better for them and the club.
Yeah let's sell him and get that Kyle lad from Swansea when they go down, heard he can play on the left too
 

Cornpattbuck

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6+ minute highlight clip from a 2015 match against Soton - that is a lot of touches for a RWB...


He's got a similar vibe to Harry Winks - small but loads of character and composure on the ball and tenacious off it. Could probably do with asking Trippier for some crossing coaching.
 

spids

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Whilst that video is 2 years old, he does look on the small side. I read an interview with Winks where he said Poch wanted him to bulk up in the gym and he stronger / heavier, and that's what he did last year. Wouldn't be surprised to see a muscular KWP in the first team squad next season.
 

spursfan77

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You can't have too many home grown Spurs supporters in the team/squad and it's about time he was given some responsibility and involved in games. Maybe he could be given gametime ahead of a fullback next season to see how he does there before reverting to his actual position. Just to get him involved.
 

allpaths

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I'm too lazy to trawl through old posts and have at least 4 kids to get ready for bed so could someone on the healthy side of sensible update me on KWP:
is he good enough to step up next season?
is he a Walker or a Trippier type player?
what's his favourite colour?

Any facetious comments that make me look stupid gets a cyber slap or some serious Gris Gris voodoo shit
I'm personally a big fan of kwp, and think he has a very promising career and think he could be a lot better then the original Walker.
He's not as pacy or naturally athletic but still gets up and down the pitch very well and is very tenacious in the challenge. But it's his level of intelligence both on and off the ball offensively that makes him an exciting prospect.
First off all his movement and the runs he makes off the ball are brilliant, varied and timed very well. KWP will make the overlapping run but a strength of he's is being able to recognize when to make an inward run between fullback and centerhalf to get himself in very dangerous positions. Very few FBs have the intelligence and ability to make these sort of runs that cause defensive setups consistent penetrative problem and imo will make him a top level fb.
On the ball he's very good. Him and Josh Onomah where the two best ballplayers in there age group and they would often dictate the game with lots of touches and linkup play between them. KWP has very good vision, likes to play short sharp passes around the edge of the box and has improved upon his crossing but is an area he needs to improve on. He's also two footed, but he isn't as capable on the left, but he has run some game from the side as well. *another great kwp highlight package is of his game at lb against CSKA in the youth league, he was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
His strongest quality is he's dribbling, he's very strong on the ball and can wiggle through traffic expertly. At the club he's probably only behind Dembele and Edwards as a dribbler.
Defensively he is very raw as he was converted later on to fullback and his positioning and tactical discipline would need to get the poch fine tuning. He's not the tallest either but i'd say he's between 5"7 and 5"9. His problem is that he is also very skinny atm and needs to put on some muscle and mature physically. Once he does he should be ready to do some damage.
The player KWP reminds me most of is Zabalata, because he may not be the fastest (he's no slouch) but he is incredibly smart and hard willed that will make it tough on the opposition winger at both ends and will pop up in very dangerous spots every once in a while and add a goal or two each season.
 

EQP

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I'm personally a big fan of kwp, and think he has a very promising career and think he could be a lot better then the original Walker.
He's not as pacy or naturally athletic but still gets up and down the pitch very well and is very tenacious in the challenge. But it's his level of intelligence both on and off the ball offensively that makes him an exciting prospect.
First off all his movement and the runs he makes off the ball are brilliant, varied and timed very well. KWP will make the overlapping run but a strength of he's is being able to recognize when to make an inward run between fullback and centerhalf to get himself in very dangerous positions. Very few FBs have the intelligence and ability to make these sort of runs that cause defensive setups consistent penetrative problem and imo will make him a top level fb.
On the ball he's very good. Him and Josh Onomah where the two best ballplayers in there age group and they would often dictate the game with lots of touches and linkup play between them. KWP has very good vision, likes to play short sharp passes around the edge of the box and has improved upon his crossing but is an area he needs to improve on. He's also two footed, but he isn't as capable on the left, but he has run some game from the side as well. *another great kwp highlight package is of his game at lb against CSKA in the youth league, he was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
His strongest quality is he's dribbling, he's very strong on the ball and can wiggle through traffic expertly. At the club he's probably only behind Dembele and Edwards as a dribbler.
Defensively he is very raw as he was converted later on to fullback and his positioning and tactical discipline would need to get the poch fine tuning. He's not the tallest either but i'd say he's between 5"7 and 5"9. His problem is that he is also very skinny atm and needs to put on some muscle and mature physically. Once he does he should be ready to do some damage.
The player KWP reminds me most of is Zabalata, because he may not be the fastest (he's no slouch) but he is incredibly smart and hard willed that will make it tough on the opposition winger at both ends and will pop up in very dangerous spots every once in a while and add a goal or two each season.

Excellent report. Do you think KWP should be utilized as a attacking winger/midfielder rather than full back? I've seen the clip of his dribbling and think we should focus on bringing out his attacking prowess than labor him with defensive duties.
 

allpaths

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Excellent report. Do you think KWP should be utilized as a attacking winger/midfielder rather than full back? I've seen the clip of his dribbling and think we should focus on bringing out his attacking prowess than labor him with defensive duties.
Thanks mate for the kind words.
Personally I think KWP was born to play as a pochettino wingback/fullback, especially with the way we use our fullbacks and that his intelligent attacking potential and high energy style from the fullback position is something that is needed to get this team to the highest possible level. And with KWP's high football IQ he should get his defensive side up to the required standard with game time and Poch's guidance.
I see the appeal of playing KWP forward, but I don't know how beneficial it would be for him other than as a confidence booster. And if any youngster was to get minutes in the AM I'd hope it would be Edwards for obvious reasons.
 

gilzeantheking

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I'm personally a big fan of kwp, and think he has a very promising career and think he could be a lot better then the original Walker.
He's not as pacy or naturally athletic but still gets up and down the pitch very well and is very tenacious in the challenge. But it's his level of intelligence both on and off the ball offensively that makes him an exciting prospect.
First off all his movement and the runs he makes off the ball are brilliant, varied and timed very well. KWP will make the overlapping run but a strength of he's is being able to recognize when to make an inward run between fullback and centerhalf to get himself in very dangerous positions. Very few FBs have the intelligence and ability to make these sort of runs that cause defensive setups consistent penetrative problem and imo will make him a top level fb.
On the ball he's very good. Him and Josh Onomah where the two best ballplayers in there age group and they would often dictate the game with lots of touches and linkup play between them. KWP has very good vision, likes to play short sharp passes around the edge of the box and has improved upon his crossing but is an area he needs to improve on. He's also two footed, but he isn't as capable on the left, but he has run some game from the side as well. *another great kwp highlight package is of his game at lb against CSKA in the youth league, he was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
His strongest quality is he's dribbling, he's very strong on the ball and can wiggle through traffic expertly. At the club he's probably only behind Dembele and Edwards as a dribbler.
Defensively he is very raw as he was converted later on to fullback and his positioning and tactical discipline would need to get the poch fine tuning. He's not the tallest either but i'd say he's between 5"7 and 5"9. His problem is that he is also very skinny atm and needs to put on some muscle and mature physically. Once he does he should be ready to do some damage.
The player KWP reminds me most of is Zabalata, because he may not be the fastest (he's no slouch) but he is incredibly smart and hard willed that will make it tough on the opposition winger at both ends and will pop up in very dangerous spots every once in a while and add a goal or two each season.

Brilliant post.(y)
 

HildoSpur

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It's exciting to think we could have KWP and Edwards coming into the first team squad next season - both appear to be great prospects.
 
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