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Japhet

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World Rally Championship knocks spots off F1 for enjoyment as far as I'm concerned. Incredible drivers and they're not a bunch of spoiled pricks either.
 

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Credit where it's due, whoever designed this circuit, it's got a beautiful flow to it through the last 6 or 7 turns. Watching the on-boards, it feels like the kind of track where your line is everything and Leclerc looked absolutely butter on that last qualifying lap.

Piastri is definitely a star for the future though, really enjoying him steadily matching Lando, suggests that there's a nice harmony in the garage at McLaren.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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So, only real drama today is Mercedes v. Ferrari for 2nd in the Constructor's Championship - Mercedes up 4 points. Based on Qauli - it will be LeClerc (2) v. Russell (4), and Lewis (11) v. Sainz (16)


McLaren and Aston Martin in a little battle for 4th - but McLaren have an 11 point lead, and both cars ahead of both Astons.
 

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That Red Bull is just absurd, how they carry so much grip and so much speed into corners. Yes, Max is fearless on those brakes, have to give credit there, but it's just bonkers how much speed he carries through turns then puts his foot down and tractors away. No idea how they've managed to pull it off but that garage are wizards and the car's alien technology.

I've said it previously, you can add RB19 to that list of cars that changes the sport. Williams' B-spec FW14 in 1992 made heads spin off necks so I hope that the personality of the driver doesn't outshine what is clearly a car in a class above the rest, and it's remembered for the fantastic machine it is.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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One of the most boring F1 seasons for many a year.

Only interesting thing for me was McClaren picking up some form mid season.

Seriously hoping Mercedes and possibly McClaren can close the gap on Reb Bull next season but can't see it with the same regulations I think RB have just nailed this concept and with the cost cap ironically its made it harder for anyone else to catch back up, shame.

Also obviously hate Verstappen so makes it all the more harder to bare.
 

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Ferrari are looking like Red Bull's closest competitor and who I suspect is further along closing the gap - McLaren have made huge advances this year but Merc I just can't tell where they're up to. One race they're motoring, the next they're competing with Alpha Tauri, so suspect they've still got a lot of work to do.

Saudi is a good race to finish on, the circuit is fantastic, it's probably one of my favorites already, human rights abuses aside. Maybe someone could recreate it somewhere else? So I can feel marginally less guilty about enjoying the crooked, money-laundering, F1 parade.
 

Cochise

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The only thing that can realistically save the competition is Red Bull changing policy and getting a top driver to take their second car. As mentioned earlier, no-one really looks close to matching their car and Perez is levels below Verstappen. If they don't create some competition from inside the team then Verstappen will just dominate for the next couple of years.
 

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The only thing that can realistically save the competition is Red Bull changing policy and getting a top driver to take their second car. As mentioned earlier, no-one really looks close to matching their car and Perez is levels below Verstappen. If they don't create some competition from inside the team then Verstappen will just dominate for the next couple of years.

I'm not convinced that would solve it though - Verstappen clearly has a much better relationship with his garage and engineers, possibly gives better feedback, is more deeply involved in development perhaps? I dunno, but the way his car continued to improve at such a rate - if it had started off great and there had been a noticeable gulf between them all season then yeah, all car, but the gap grew as the months went on.

Part due to Checo going off the boil maybe, perhaps being so clearly behind his team mate was a struggle for him and contributed to that situation, but I'm not convinced there was an actual first and second car so much as Max's car and Checo's car being a product of what they made them.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Ferrari are looking like Red Bull's closest competitor and who I suspect is further along closing the gap - McLaren have made huge advances this year but Merc I just can't tell where they're up to. One race they're motoring, the next they're competing with Alpha Tauri, so suspect they've still got a lot of work to do.

Saudi is a good race to finish on, the circuit is fantastic, it's probably one of my favorites already, human rights abuses aside. Maybe someone could recreate it somewhere else? So I can feel marginally less guilty about enjoying the crooked, money-laundering, F1 parade.
Ferrari are a mess - still.

I am not sure I see them competing for the title as long as neither driver trust their strategy set-up.

I fear it's going to be more of the same next year and 2025. Maybe McLaren can continue their development. But, I think the Mercs will be going with an entirely new car concept - so they will probably still be behind at the start of the year, and once 2025 gets here, the top teams will be focused on the new specs for the 2026 designs.
 

Wick3d

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I pray the FIA bin Ben Sulayem, the man is so embarrassing and pure cringe. All he does is damage the reputation of the sport.
 

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Could we change this thread to the Formula 1/Motorsport thread? All of the fans of engine-racing seem to congregate here and it'd be nice to feel like we weren't going OT when we talk outside of F1.

For example, Jenson Button has announced he'll be driving the Jota Porsche at the WEC;


Grosjean & Kvyat will drive for Lamborghini and there's suggestions that Vettel might be eyeing up a drive for next year as well. Could be fun.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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fishhhandaricecake

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Hope and pray Mercedes give Hamilton a car to challenge Max this season but can’t see it unfortunately as RB will be too strong until the next set of regulations
 
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