The Football League 19/20

TheRevolution

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It's entirely selk-inflicted from shit owners. Other clubs shouldn't bale them out. If you want to be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the authorities for the way football is organised, all the money goes to the top. Blame Sky, blame the FA, blame shit owners. It's nothing to do with us or any other club.
Yet was it up to the clubs for Scudamores little golden handshake? They can raise money if they really wanted to and lets be honest it's pocket change for most of them.
 

Drink!Drink!

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Read for the first time this morning a detailed account of what has happened at Bury. Shocking. The league let a guy with a collapsing set of businesses buy the club from another guy who had mortgaged the stadium with 40% of the mortgage cash not going to Bury but to anonymous "finders" registered in tax dodging "havens". The Football League are a joke. They should have regs that stopped the dodgy mortgage loan scheme by the previous owner, and a real fit and proper test on the new owner to see if had the finances to deal with said dodgy loan scheme.

Also, the completely obvious, more of the TV money from the Premier league and Champions league should be redistributed to the lower leagues. (clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City are absolute scumbags for secretly plotting a breakaway "super" league that would mean the lower leagues would lose out even more)
 
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Gbspurs

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Yet was it up to the clubs for Scudamores little golden handshake? They can raise money if they really wanted to and lets be honest it's pocket change for most of them.
Why should they raise money for this? It would set a precedent meaning more shit owners would do whatever they want knowing they will get bailed out.

I have no objection to more money flowing down the leagues from the top but the EFL need to be better at checking potential owners out.
 
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Yet was it up to the clubs for Scudamores little golden handshake? They can raise money if they really wanted to and lets be honest it's pocket change for most of them.
They didn't have to do. They could bale them out if they wanted to but they shouldn't.
 

mpickard2087

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It's terrible for the club, fans, and community but it's not on other clubs higher up the food chain to bail them out. That's hardly going to lead to financial responsibility.

I know latterly they, like Bury, have suffered from dodgy owners, but financial meltdown is not really surprising in Bolton's case. They were just loading debt year after year (wasn't it up at 150m at one point, even in PL) and relying on the goodwill of their owners. They wont be around forever, PL status wont be either, as soon as the good times are over you're going to be left with a clusterfuck to manage.

Ultimately what is needed in these cases is better regulation, and better owners. Until more of them learn to say no, and break out of the conditioning that football has to chase short term fixes, just spend more and more without question, and treat the whole thing as an arms race then this will keep happening.
 

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Why should they raise money for this? It would set a precedent meaning more shit owners would do whatever they want knowing they will get bailed out.

I have no objection to more money flowing down the leagues from the top but the EFL need to be better at checking potential owners out.
There's a chance that, if the EFL did reject more potential owners due not passing "fit and proper" tests, more clubs would go out of business purely because they couldn't be sold.
 

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Whilst it's sad I agree with the notion it shouldn't be up to the "top clubs" to bail anyone out. Where would that end? They can't step in every time some shit owners rock up.
 

Thewobbler

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I feel bad for the fans but
They won't be the last. The model adopted by a lot of clubs in the football league is unsustainable - in the 17/18 season League 2 clubs made £91m in revenue but spent £71m on wages, 17 League 1 clubs had pre-tax losses of £37m, 12 Championship clubs had a wage budget greater than their total revenue and all the clubs of the football league lost a combined £411m. Clubs operating at a profit in the football league is a shrinking minority.
teams in the lower leagues should have a wage cap.
 

MK Yid

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The Football League are a joke. They should have regs that stopped the dodgy mortgage loan scheme by the previous owner, and a real fit and proper test on the new owner to see if had the finances to deal with said dodgy loan scheme.
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It is not the EFL that set the rules, but the clubs, the EFL just apply the rules the clubs vote on.
The fit and proper persons test is definitely not intrusive enough, and I would say deliberately so by the clubs, club owners don't want to be restricted in who they can sell to.
 

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There is no way you should be able to buy a club for the price of a can of coke.

Yeah they had a tonne load of debts but then you need to prove you can afford the debts etc...
 

yankspurs

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Bolton have been saved. Good news for them.

Bury were expelled but now seems to be in flux and proof of funds of a buyer were apparently submitted to the efl pleading to rescind the expulsion.

The EFL has a whole bunch of explaining to do and they must take a long, hard look at themselves regarding ownership and also with how the game seems to be running right now. Alot of clubs seem to be running at losses that could put them on the brink. Agents, players, clubs and the EFL are going to have to take hard decisions for the game to be saved at the lower league levels.
 

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Bolton have been saved. Good news for them.

Bury were expelled but now seems to be in flux and proof of funds of a buyer were apparently submitted to the efl pleading to rescind the expulsion.

The EFL has a whole bunch of explaining to do and they must take a long, hard look at themselves regarding ownership and also with how the game seems to be running right now. Alot of clubs seem to be running at losses that could put them on the brink. Agents, players, clubs and the EFL are going to have to take hard decisions for the game to be saved at the lower league levels.
I think a salary cap in some regard should be considered. The jump from League 1 to the Championship is near tenfold in player wages, and near enough the same from the Championship to the Premier League.
 
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https://www.football365.com/news/solskjaers-man-utd-successor-has-his-audition-on-saturday

A request

Football supporters everywhere were shocked and saddened when on the 27th August Bury FC were expelled from the EFL. A 134 year old institution gone. Generations of fans left without the cornerstone of their community that so many of us take for granted.

Football fans often revel in the tribalism of our game but the deep love we have for our own club serves to strengthen solidarity when a crisis emerges. In the past couple of days there has been an outpouring of compassion, empathy and sorrow from hundreds of thousands of fans across the country and throughout the leagues.

This weekend be grateful that your club has a game to play, that you can continue your matchday rituals with friends and family, like every other Saturday. Soak up the experience and appreciate it… and on the 27th minute, the Football Supporters Association is calling for supporters everywhere to applaud for one minute in a nationwide display of solidarity with Bury fans.


Why a minute of applause on the 27th minute? Because on 27th August a football club was expelled from the league for the first time in 27 years. Let’s show that we care and we are angry that this situation has been allowed to happen.

The FSA is lobbying hard to protect our clubs from unscrupulous or incompetent owners – conflicts of interest have to be removed as owners have shown they cannot regulate themselves and our clubs deserve special protections more in line with those afforded to listed buildings. Football clubs are not just another business.

We’ll need the support of fans across the game for that campaign in the weeks and months ahead, but for this weekend, let’s start by showing supporter solidarity with Bury fans on the 27th minute.
Football Supporters’ Association
 
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