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DJS

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On Olise. Still eligible for England (and also Algeria and Nigeria), but in any case would not have the time available to switch allegiances before the Euros.

Very good player but yet another left footed right winger, which we seem to have millions of at the moment lol.

Why do vast majority of the English wingers seem to left footed suddenly?
 

14/04/91

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Stones looked very, very rusty in the cup final today.
Hope he can use the 2 friendlies to get up to speed.
Right now we only have Walker fit and in-form out of our entire back line. And I’m a bit concerned about him after a long season.
 

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Mikey Moore

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ItsBoris

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I understand that you struggle to find a partner for Rice in midfield but i think it would be a mistake to put Bellingham there. He is one of the best players in the world right now in a more advanced position in midfield. It would be a waste of his strengths in my opinion. Yes, he can play there, but that does not mean that he should play there.

But as I said, I understand the problem. I would play Gallagher or even Mainoo there. Bellingham can do so much more for the team in a more attacking role.

True about Bellingham but then that pushes Foden out to the left side. But Foden comes inside from that position, which then requires a player like Shaw at left back who can go forward and stay wide to provide an out ball on that side. That's exactly what went wrong for City vs United - Gvardiol doesn't really provide much threat in that wide area and with Foden cutting inside it was all a bit congested in the middle.

So if you don't have Shaw at left back (let's say it's Gomez instead), then you have to either play Bellingham deeper to play Foden in the middle and then someone like Gordon on the left, OR you have to drop Foden to play Bellingham in his best position. Or drop Bellingham for someone like Mainoo, Jones, or Wharton.

Bellingham is also a weird one. He hasn't been at the same level in the last few months that he was early on in the season. And I'm not sure he's a more influential player to have in that #10 position than Foden.
 

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pedrodelawasp

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With the caveat that I’m a Scot and will not necessarily be rooting for England at the Euros…

Could it be an idea to utilise the 3241 style formation that Pep used to set Man City up?

———————Ramsdale.

——Walker. —Stones. —-Gomes.

——————TAA. ———Rice.

Saka. —- Foden. —-Bellingham. —Gordon.

————————Kane.

Compensating for the lack of a fully fit, out-and-out left back. Trent able to drop in if Walker makes a run beyond. Rice providing cover. An insane amount of attacking talent.

No idea if it would actually work, mind you!
 

Coolpudge

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With the caveat that I’m a Scot and will not necessarily be rooting for England at the Euros…

Could it be an idea to utilise the 3241 style formation that Pep used to set Man City up?

———————Ramsdale.

——Walker. —Stones. —-Gomes.

——————TAA. ———Rice.

Saka. —- Foden. —-Bellingham. —Gordon.

————————Kane.

Compensating for the lack of a fully fit, out-and-out left back. Trent able to drop in if Walker makes a run beyond. Rice providing cover. An insane amount of attacking talent.

No idea if it would actually work, mind you!
I love it but that looks far to attacking for Southgate.
 

SlotBadger

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That’s some finish for the first goal.
Honestly, having read the headline of Moore scoring a "special goal," I'm actually shocked the first is being overlooked. The second and third touch (strike) are exceptional.

Moore's curled effort is really fucking nice, but that first is the type of goal you rarely see at any level.
 

leffe186

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With the caveat that I’m a Scot and will not necessarily be rooting for England at the Euros…

Could it be an idea to utilise the 3241 style formation that Pep used to set Man City up?

———————Ramsdale.

——Walker. —Stones. —-Gomes.

——————TAA. ———Rice.

Saka. —- Foden. —-Bellingham. —Gordon.

————————Kane.

Compensating for the lack of a fully fit, out-and-out left back. Trent able to drop in if Walker makes a run beyond. Rice providing cover. An insane amount of attacking talent.

No idea if it would actually work, mind you!

I quite like that.

I have a slight concern that playing Kane and Foden together doesn’t work unless Kane plays as an out-and-out striker. When he drops into the 10 position they just seem to get in each other’s way. I love the idea of Kane dropping a little and having Gordon and Saka to hit out wide plus Bellingham motoring past him down the middle. If it meant Foden pushing on as well then maybe that would be an option, but that leaves the defence really exposed, Rice notwithstanding.

I do think Pickford’s distribution in the last couple of games has been brilliant. Still think he’s the best option (of a lot of very similar ones). The defence just terrifies me.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Surprised about the Dunk hate in here, I really like him, excellent with the ball at his feet. Guehi has to go to the euros imo as well.

Looking at the squad I imagine Stones may play a role in midfield at times. Or Foden/Bellingham/Gallagher are dropped deeper.

I dislike the idea of just playing Foden or Palmer out wide, we're almost into Scholes on the left territory.

Gordon has to play an active role, he's been very good this season and offers width.

The Chelsea players - James, Colwell and Chilwell have all been injured and out of form. So no surprises there.

Rashford is the only shock, even being out of form that's a big decison.

Shaw has to be fit, if not Trippier on the left could be a disaster, he's not great defensively and struggles one on one, and on the left he's pretty useless.

Maybe Walker in a 3 with Stones pushed up.

My starting 11 would be...

Walker Stones. Guehi. Shaw (if fit)

Rice. Bellingham

Foden

Saka. Gordon

Kane

An injury to Rice or the wingers or anyone but Shaw at left back leaves us all over the show.
 

leffe186

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I feel like each time I’ve seen Dunk play for England against decent opposition he’s looked out of his depth. Might be wrong but that’s my gut feeling.
 
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