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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The What Will Today Bring Edition 2nd August 2013

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HappySpur

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One of my least favorite things about football fans, is how they disregard common human traits when it comes to footballers. You might see them as something above our station, but I can guarantee you this.....they share everything in common with us at a basic level......other than nobody ever tells them that they're wrong.

But they have the same needs and wants. One of them being everybody wants to be paid more. I wanted my current job very much as it's cancer research. It's a great thing to be part of. Did I still want to milk as much money as I could from that? You bet I did. Footballers and agents are the same.

They aren't going to put themselves in the stupid position of making less money.

So sure Madrid have talked to him or his agent. And sure they've said this would be great. And maybe even Real Madrid offered 21 billion dollars a game. But if they could use PSG to get 21 billion and five dollars, they would do that. Just like you would.

Because.....they're people.

Start applying the same fundamental principals you see in every person in your life, to them. Especially when it comes to things of status and pride.....because remember how I mentioned nobody ever tells them they are wrong.....well that leads to a fucked up sense of importance
 

HappySpur

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HappySpur

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His merchandising options whilst playing 'at home' will also go from very lucrative to insane, will they not? :eek:


Kind of not. The way NBC is going, he has a lot more to gain by staying with us, to be perfectly honest.

But the market in general for football players has a very limited merchandising industry surrounding it. And what their is would be dominated by the women. Are you going to pay attention to ad if Deuce is in it more than Hope Solo? Nope! Our women's team is hot. ;)
 

Parkie

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So, Clint, what persuaded you to sign the $32m contract with Seattle? Was it the weather or your excitement at playing in a league like the MLS?

Errrrr...
 

spivmaster

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One of my least favorite things about football fans, is how they disregard common human traits when it comes to footballers. You might see them as something above our station, but I can guarantee you this.....they share everything in common with us at a basic level......other than nobody ever tells them that they're wrong.

But they have the same needs and wants. One of them being everybody wants to be paid more. I wanted my current job very much as it's cancer research. It's a great thing to be part of. Did I still want to milk as much money as I could from that? You bet I did. Footballers and agents are the same.

They aren't going to put themselves in the stupid position of making less money.

So sure Madrid have talked to him or his agent. And sure they've said this would be great. And maybe even Real Madrid offered 21 billion dollars a game. But if they could use PSG to get 21 billion and five dollars, they would do that. Just like you would.

Because.....they're people.

Start applying the same fundamental principals you see in every person in your life, to them. Especially when it comes to things of status and pride.....because remember how I mentioned nobody ever tells them they are wrong.....well that leads to a fucked up sense of importance


I think for most people that's only true up to a certain amount of money. Once you are at an income level where you can have all of your needs and desires satisfied, and assuming you didn't have a drug or gambling problem, would you really still pursue even a slight increase in income if you were happy where you were? If you had the choice of making 10 million dollars a year somewhere with a good working environment, and 11 million dollars a year somewhere with a crappy working environment, would you really go to the latter? I'm oversimplifying it of course because the 11 million dollar a year job might have a good working environment, but, in any case, the real question is at what point do you forego environment or sentimentality for an increase in wage? I think everyone has a different threshold and value system that allows them to make that judgment.

Personally, if I was as good as Bale and I was at a club like Tottenham trying to break into the elite clubs of Europe, with a prospective new stadium, a great coach, in a high-profile league, making more than enough money to do anything I wanted, with an ambitious chairman, I would very much like to stay and become a legend. I mean, hey, it's not like Bale would be playing for pennies in the Paraguayan 5th Division. This is a similar conundrum that Lebron James was faced with before he left to join the Miami Heat and he got a lot of flak for his decision because Lebron was so much more than a basketball player for a city like Cleveland. He meant more to Cleveland than he ever will for Miami (just like I'm sure Bale would for Spurs as opposed to Madrid).

But I understand that I might be the exception, and that Bale or LBJ might just have different values and they'd rather look in their closet at a lot of trophies than be truly adored by generations of fans of a specific region (which I'm not sure Bale would be at Madrid considering their endless conveyor belt of hot commodities). I don't begrudge either of them wanting to move on and win things though if their organizations don't back them. I guess you'd have to consider too that some players have humanitarian organizations in their home countries that they want to support and so for them making more money is the ultimate goal.

I agree though that most footballers (celebrities in general really) have an inflated sense of self-worth.
 
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