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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE MANIC MONDAY EDITION 2nd July 2012

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Only 1 Spurs

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ITK time ....with JJETSET (y) We could all meet up on here with a chocolate milk settle down and let the info flow ;)
 

Makkaveli101

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At least JJ was able to confirm our new manager will be revealed tomorrow. Something to look forward to. Can't wait!!! Bring on AVB...bring on the new dawn. Bring on players and a new stadium!!! :D
 

Spurger King

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I would like to say that Spurs is my club, its your club, We are the club without us Spurs are nothing and the powers that be would do well to keep this in mind.

I agree, however that's not really the issue here. Apart from the fact that our clamour for inside info could potentially damage the club we love by putting transfers at risk, the key thing seems to be Rob and A&C's concern for JJ's job.

I have to admit that it's crossed my mind on several occasions that JJ is making his position increasingly vulnerable with the info he's coming out with, in which case Rob and A&C are right to protect him. I've also thought (though this is far less likely IMO) that he might be giving out 'officially sanctioned' ITK, in which case I could see why Rob and A&C would be uncomfortable with that as well.
 

Makkaveli101

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I agree, however that's not really the issue here. Apart from the fact that our clamour for inside info could potentially damage the club we love by putting transfers at risk, the key thing seems to be Rob and A&C's concern for JJ's job.

I have to admit that it's crossed my mind on several occasions that JJ is making his position increasingly vulnerable with the info he's coming out with, in which case Rob and A&C are right to protect him. I've also thought (though this is far less likely IMO) that he might be giving out 'officially sanctioned' ITK, in which case I could see why Rob and A&C would be uncomfortable with that as well.

Very good post mate. I don't see why being an outlet for "officially sanctioned ITK" would be a bad thing though? Surely that would be an honour (and only a positive) to have the club leaking official information through the site?
 

jurgen

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Jul 5, 2008
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Could this be the first piece of meta-ITK? Mods make rapid moves and sideline one of SC's biggest and most popular posters, public revolts.. It's AVB!! And the goat situation was the equivalent of brave John terry posing a high line?
 

1971 Spur

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I have no issue with 'officially sanctioned' ITK insofar as if it's propaganda then the messenger would be found out eventually. JJ seemed to be well balanced, neither a harryite, a levyite, nor someone with an axe to grind in either camp and I respected that. With some, the ulterior motives become clear quite quickly and with that my interest waned. Spurs have been my club for more years than I care to remember and it was nice for a fleeting moment to have someone "on the inside" giving info to those of us who cared enough to read. Whether covert or planted I care not.
 

Spurger King

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Very good post mate. I don't see why being an outlet for "officially sanctioned ITK" would be a bad thing though? Surely that would be an honour (and only a positive) to have the club leaking official information through the site?

I guess so, and if it happened like that then it would definitely be a positive for the site. The danger (and I must stress that I really don't think this has happened) is that it could be open for abuse via propaganda. If the sanctioned ITK was coming from the board it might be used to undermine the manager in order to gain support for sacking them (for example). There's also the problem that A&C highlights about the confusion between opinion and fact.

Ultimately I can't see any reason for the club to deliberately leak info via a forum unless it was misinformation, in which case it would risk turning that forum (and those that buy into the info) into unwitting pieces in a bigger game. It might be for the good of the club in the long run, but it would still be manipulation.

I don't actually think JJ's been doing that though.
 

Spurger King

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I have no issue with 'officially sanctioned' ITK insofar as if it's propaganda then the messenger would be found out eventually. JJ seemed to be well balanced, neither a harryite, a levyite, nor someone with an axe to grind in either camp and I respected that. With some, the ulterior motives become clear quite quickly and with that my interest waned. Spurs have been my club for more years than I care to remember and it was nice for a fleeting moment to have someone "on the inside" giving info to those of us who cared enough to read. Whether covert or planted I care not.

Whenever JJ talked about Harry it was either with warmth and admiration, or pure frustration. Sounds like the majority of balanced fans to me.
 

ravo

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It's an unfortunate situation, but one that I completely understand. I'm pissed off with all the people that would hound JJ with questions as soon as he posted even non-ITK type post. We have been asked by the mods countless times not to ask him questions and yet still they fucking happen. Really fucks me off. So, it's totally deserved.

I'm with a lot on here in that perhaps JJ should just post his info in the RO thread and be done with it. He can post in here if he likes. Anyone who asks him questions gets banned - for a day (first infringement) and then more for subsequent infringements. ITK hounding is akin to ITK bashing.

So, well done everyone - we've lost our best ITK.
 

amathews3416

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It's an unfortunate situation, but one that I completely understand. I'm pissed off with all the people that would hound JJ with questions as soon as he posted even non-ITK type post. We have been asked by the mods countless times not to ask him questions and yet still they fucking happen. Really fucks me off. So, it's totally deserved.

I'm with a lot on here in that perhaps JJ should just post his info in the RO thread and be done with it. He can post in here if he likes. Anyone who asks him questions gets banned - for a day (first infringement) and then more for subsequent infringements. ITK hounding is akin to ITK bashing.

So, well done everyone - we've lost our best ITK.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it seemed to me that JJ never minded being hounded with the questions. If that is the case and the reason he won't be posting any longer, a simple solution would be to make that a forum rule and ban anybody who broke it.

I don't post often and mostly lurk, but a large reason I even come on SC is for JJ. JMO, but the mods made a huge mistake I believe they will eventually regret in restricting JJ from where he can post. They just lost the biggest asset to this community in terms of transfers and information from the club.

Bring back JJ and let him post when and wherever he wants. In fact, I will donate to the site once these rules are uplifted and he is allowed to return to the ITK forum.
 

PrettyColors

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So did he say he would stop posting altogether or just in here?

Either way I'm completely sure that we will be seeing a lot less of JJ on here this window. Oh well. Good guy. But he is not gospel, as is any ITK. Maybe it will do the forum some good to not hang on one poster's every word.
 

ravo

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Maybe I'm missing something, but it seemed to me that JJ never minded being hounded with the questions. If that is the case and the reason he won't be posting any longer, a simple solution would be to make that a forum rule and ban anybody who broke it.

I don't post often and mostly lurk, but a large reason I even come on SC is for JJ. JMO, but the mods made a huge mistake I believe they will eventually regret in restricting JJ from where he can post. They just lost the biggest asset to this community in terms of transfers and information from the club.

Bring back JJ and let him post when and wherever he wants. In fact, I will donate to the site once these rules are uplifted and he is allowed to return to the ITK forum.

I agree and posted similar above. Perhaps the remainder of my response was a bit emotional.

Re the not minding being hounded - we were asked by the mods when JJ first became uber-ITK a few windows ago not to hound him with questions. I don't know whether he asked the mods to post that or not. Regardless it should be followed.

We're lucky that we're not over on COYS, as we would all have been banned by now...
 

Spurger King

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I agree and posted similar above. Perhaps the remainder of my response was a bit emotional.

Re the not minding being hounded - we were asked by the mods when JJ first became uber-ITK a few windows ago not to hound him with questions. I don't know whether he asked the mods to post that or not. Regardless it should be followed.

We're lucky that we're not over on COYS, as we would all have been banned by now...

Well I was banned for comments I made on SC yesterday. That's fair enough I guess. If I'd known COYS was a site dedicated to boredom and/or ITK sycophancy I wouldn't have bothered joining in the first place.
 

Twizzle

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perhaps we should let JJ decide

anyway this seems to have evolved into the JJ thread rather then the ITK thread
 

etchedchaos

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No more JJ? Say it ain't so?

Surely there's a compromise in there, perhaps have JJ login anonymously and have a dedicated thread only he can moderate, so when he is online we get our ITK, but he has a say in how many questions are fielded or not.
 

doom

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I feel something odd lurking beneath Spurscommunity for JJ to be asked to stop posting - me thinks legal things. I always thought that JJ was being fed info from DV to post here however now I think JJ may just get his info illicitly.
From what I know about him, he was a (very) ordinary SC member for 8 years (and living abroad) then suddenly has access to the best ITK around.
 
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