The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - Groundhog Day you say? Groundhog Day you say?

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just cause it's all doom and gloom decided to watch the CL second leg against Citeh - what a game, what a mentality! #missPoch
now watching the 5-3 v Chelski - Poch in our dugout, Maureen in theirs, Kane mobile and making his own goals, Dembele immense, Rose....still getting turned around by Hazard (ah well) but then a gutsy finish. As an aside, shame how things ended with Townsend - that penalty was brilliant.
 

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now watching the 5-3 v Chelski - Poch in our dugout, Maureen in theirs, Kane mobile and making his own goals, Dembele immense, Rose....still getting turned around by Hazard (ah well) but then a gutsy finish. As an aside, shame how things ended with Townsend - that penalty was brilliant.
That was the first real statement of the Poch era, awesome match. Back then I expected us to have zero chances against the big boys. Basically like today again...
 

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if we remove the Spurs biased goggles for a minute any neutral fan would rank the 3 players with B.Fernandes or Coutiniho 1/2 and Lo Celso 3. That does NOT mean Lo Celso isn't a good player, he's a brilliant player but if you could've given me a choice of any of the 3 i'd have gone with B.Fernandes or Coutiniho over the other two all day long, B.Fernandes and Coutiniho are bordering on world class, whilst GLC has potential right now he is not at their level.
This like when we got told by "neutrals" that Modric wasn't as good as the likes of Mata and Silva because he didn't score and assist as much. Lo Celso is the shining beacon in a totally dysfunctional sidewhere he plays a very different role to the other two that are mentioned. Man United have been defensively competent the entire season and Fernandes will quite obviously be an upgrade to Lingard/Mata/Pereira.
He's had a bright start and a lot of the usual Man United PR guff about what a fantastic lad he is, how hard he trains and how he's a "proper Manchester United player", but on a different planet to Lo Celso? Not at all. But again, apples and oranges.
 

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Ryan Fraser allegedly wants to join Spurs when his contract expires in the summer.
 

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Ryan Fraser allegedly wants to join Spurs when his contract expires in the summer.
I can see a lot of teams trying to get players on a free. I just really hope we have started targeting who Jose wants/needs in the team and offering contracts before it's too late.

But then this is spurs so we probably haven't done much yet!
 

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Just putting this here with some information i have received about transfer fees in general. Agents, mandates, clubs, already exploring. Actually trying to come to some form of understanding in the eco-system of transfers. Each and every club rely on player-trades. It is expected 2 year loans, elongated structured payments will more than likely be the way ahead. Major over 100m transfers in the short-term (nobody knows how short) will be ‘wishful thinking’ (said by 3 top agents and clubs).

The unprecedented situation we are facing, has woken many within the industry up. Clubs like ours, goons, scousers (both), Yanited, chavs, Leicester always feared the bubble would soon have to burst. There are at least 8 clubs in PL
well over-stretched, and does not bode well for them financially.

So my own conclusion; very difficult to finalise big transfers over a certain figure. And that figure is anyone’s guest. Banks also will review credit terms they have with the majority of clubs. Interesting times.
 

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Just putting this here with some information i have received about transfer fees in general. Agents, mandates, clubs, already exploring. Actually trying to come to some form of understanding in the eco-system of transfers. Each and every club rely on player-trades. It is expected 2 year loans, elongated structured payments will more than likely be the way ahead. Major over 100m transfers in the short-term (nobody knows how short) will be ‘wishful thinking’ (said by 3 top agents and clubs).

The unprecedented situation we are facing, has woken many within the industry up. Clubs like ours, goons, scousers (both), Yanited, chavs, Leicester always feared the bubble would soon have to burst. There are at least 8 clubs in PL
well over-stretched, and does not bode well for them financially.

So my own conclusion; very difficult to finalise big transfers over a certain figure. And that figure is anyone’s guest. Banks also will review credit terms they have with the majority of clubs. Interesting times.
I wonder when the transfer window will be or if we will go back to having it possible to sign players whenever clubs want for a year. Just like it used to be.
 

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I wonder when the transfer window will be or if we will go back to having it possible to sign players whenever clubs want for a year. Just like it used to be.
on the plus side the well run clubs will be able to prey on those who are struggling. Pre the pandemic Levy was in effect dead in the water re transfers as there were little to no bargains to be had. Now there will be lots of clubs having to sell players at a reduced rate to save themselves from going under. Although bad for the clubs it’s good in the sense that it will drastically reduce clubs been held to ransom with grossly inflated fees.
 
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on the plus side the well run clubs will be able to prey on those who are struggling. Pre the pandemic Levy was in effect dead in the water re transfers as there were little to no bargains to be had. Now there will be lots of clubs having to sell players at a reduced rate to save themselves from going under. Although bad for the clubs it’s good in the sense that is will drastically reduce clubs been held to ransom with grossly inflated fees.
I’d imagine Levy’s comparatively careful handling of player wages over the years will benefit the club in the current and short term situations
 

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Would the two year loans be to take us out of the current crisis and allow everyone to reassess the situation, to see if fees can match the level of before or if we are in a different world. I can well imagine the TV revenue going down.
 

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Would the two year loans be to take us out of the current crisis and allow everyone to reassess the situation, to see if fees can match the level of before or if we are in a different world. I can well imagine the TV revenue going down.
I think so. This isn’t just about a couple of months of lockdown. Leading economists predict a global recession as a consequence of the corona virus. Disposable income, amongst other things, is already taking a hammering. I’m not sure tv revenues will be funded by subscription fees in the way they hitherto have for some time. This could really bite clubs that are paying wages at the top end of their budgets, especially those wage heavy players tied to long term contracts. For example, how will a club like Palace pay Zaha’s wages if TV funds are slashed?
 

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I think so. This isn’t just about a couple of months of lockdown. Leading economists predict a global recession as a consequence of the corona virus. Disposable income, amongst other things, is already taking a hammering. I’m not sure tv revenues will be funded by subscription fees in the way they hitherto have for some time. This could really bite clubs that are paying wages at the top end of their budgets, especially those wage heavy players tied to long term contracts. For example, how will a club like Palace pay Zaha’s wages if TV funds are slashed?
I read somewhere yesterday that Leicester's wage bill is over 80% so unless their owner is willing to bail them out something silly they'll be having a garage sale.
 

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I read somewhere yesterday that Leicester's wage bill is over 80% so unless their owner is willing to bail them out something silly they'll be having a garage sale.
Bournemouth’s is 85% so I really wouldn’t be surprised if they get into difficulty especially if the season does not get finished and they don’t get tv money
 

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I doubt it. If we have to play half of next season behind closed doors (which is a possibility) we will lose so much revenue, not to mention the naming rights, NFL and concerts all cancelled.
 

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I read somewhere yesterday that Leicester's wage bill is over 80% so unless their owner is willing to bail them out something silly they'll be having a garage sale.
Given their trade is duty-free retail, can only hope they have other stuff on their mind. Should have taken a serious hit from covid, and unlikely to have a good summer with no one going to Thailand.
 
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