The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - Groundhog Day you say? Groundhog Day you say?

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Will be interesting to see the impact the Coronavirus has on the transfer market in general.
Dramatic I would think. I can't imagine any club thinking it's a good idea to spend the obscene money that they have been spending given the financial struggles the world is about to face.
 

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Dramatic I would think. I can't imagine any club thinking it's a good idea to spend the obscene money that they have been spending given the financial struggles the world is about to face.
Capitalism needs a major re-alignment after this ... how can some footballers earn £500k per week, and cost £200M when nurses and doctors earn peanuts, and hospitals don’t have enough basic equipment for emergencies. Socialism is not the answer, but there needs to be a rebalance.

UPDATE - Not sure how you could find this funny @haslemereyid.
 
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Capitalism needs a major re-alignment after this ... how can some footballers earn £500k per week, and cost £200M when nurses and doctors earn peanuts, and hospitals don’t have enough basic equipment for emergencies. Socialism is not the answer, but there needs to be a rebalance.
You're right but it's not just footballers. A lot of sports stars are getting huge money now. I always wonder why actors are never criticised in the same way when they are getting X number of millions for a few months filming.
 

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You're right but it's not just footballers. A lot of sports stars are getting huge money now. I always wonder why actors are never criticised in the same way when they are getting X number of millions for a few months filming.
Totally agree. Only didn't mention other 'super incomes' as the discussion was on the transfer market. But if a club goes out and spends £120M on Jordan Sancho this summer, and commits another £50M on his wages, when hundreds of thousands of people could have died amidst a crisis in the NHS where nurses don't even have the protective clothing they need to stay safe, I think there would (rightly) be a social backlash.
 

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Totally agree. Only didn't mention other 'super incomes' as the discussion was on the transfer market. But if a club goes out and spends £120M on Jordan Sancho this summer, and commits another £50M on his wages, when hundreds of thousands of people could have died amidst a crisis in the NHS where nurses don't even have the protective clothing they need to stay safe, I think there would (rightly) be a social backlash.
It’s ultimately down to us. We feed the excesses of this industry by paying our subscriptions to media providers. While the money slops about, it’s going to be spooned up by those at the table
 

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It’s ultimately down to us. We feed the excesses of this industry by paying our subscriptions to media providers. While the money slops about, it’s going to be spooned up by those at the table
But thankfully we dont all pressure into eachother into it by claiming those who don't go aren't real supporters or belittle those who don't watch every single moment of football.
 

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dragon1 said:


A few points



1- We are no longer for sale and have not been since the palace home game last March so that is not a current option



2- Joe controls what happens with the club not DL , DL loves running the club he would never sell but its not his call



3- Levy is now under intense pressure from all quarters, Even before the Norwich game Joe thought both the results and performances Jose was delivering in relation to the obscene contract he was given were hugely disapointing, levy defense that Jose is a winner do not look to clever now after the last week , I do not know to many directors who would survive the debacle of having to pay 60 million managerial compensation to two high profile managers whilst overseeing a playing squad with little balance or quality , levy is far from untouchable, Spurs are big business now a 2 billion asset with 500 million turnover, levy future very much rest in the hands of Jose being able to turn around

4- Levy not for the first time was badly hoodwinked by Jose with what a wonderful squad you have etc , Jose predictably now changed his tune, pre Norwich Jose wanted 8 new players in the summer and the guy from Lyon as new DOF , I presume after Norwich and last night Jose will want even more player





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if I gave you a list of players that wanted to join and levy messed up the deals you would sob, he did amazing with the stadium to get the nfl , banks and authorities on board but one swallow does not make a summer he has been a dreadful chairman, Poch the messiah covered his shortcomings for 5 years but that ship has sailed.


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Lewis now watches every games and finds Jose's tactics and football eye bleeding

and (looks more opinion but still interesting.

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I never wanted him but after poch threw in the towel after yet another summer of levy shambles ( this years deal f55k ups were coutino and Dybala ) and with scum closing in on Jose levy felt they had to act and Jose duly pulled levy pants down



They need to decide whether to stick or twist after the wham game , unless they are going too back him and bring the Lyon guy in there is no point , Jose did not want a striker in jan as he had a player in mind for the summer , Jose did this at united where they got him everything he wanted and he was still useless

There is no point crying over spilt milk we need to boot Jose and pay him off , we are miles from a cl team right now, we need to bring sess, parrot, cirkin and tanganga through and try and attract some bright talent in the summer and rebuild with a modern young coach, Jose is way way past it
point 4. We are now linked with the director of Lyon 🤔
 

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Dramatic I would think. I can't imagine any club thinking it's a good idea to spend the obscene money that they have been spending given the financial struggles the world is about to face.
The money will still be there.
Ultimately a buying club will probably still pay what the selling club wants for their biggest stars.
Club owners want the biggest paydays which come with the biggest accomplishments.
As shitty and devastating as this whole period is, when we get through it, money will still be money, and those who have the most, usually want more
 

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Totally agree. Only didn't mention other 'super incomes' as the discussion was on the transfer market. But if a club goes out and spends £120M on Jordan Sancho this summer, and commits another £50M on his wages, when hundreds of thousands of people could have died amidst a crisis in the NHS where nurses don't even have the protective clothing they need to stay safe, I think there would (rightly) be a social backlash.
Especially when you could get Jadon Sancho instead!

I don't think there would be much social backlash however, there never is.
 

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point 4. We are now linked with the director of Lyon 🤔
Interesting ITK. I had no idea that the club was even for sale - the cost has to be pretty prohibitive. I also had no idea that Lewis is so hands on. I'm not surprised that Lewis is unhappy with the state of play - no-one is but there is a fair amount of opinion in there regarding where we go with Jose. I also fear that appointing a young coach, without a clear strategy on scouting/signings would just be a sop to make up for winning nothing.
 
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You're right but it's not just footballers. A lot of sports stars are getting huge money now. I always wonder why actors are never criticised in the same way when they are getting X number of millions for a few months filming.

Certain groups of people being the ‘rockstars’ of the world, and paid and lauded as such, has always been cyclical or rather progressive. Many moons ago, artists and classical composers were the ‘rockstars’ of their day. Renaissance artists earning commissions from ultra rich families, and their work being adorned worldwide. Even longer ago before that, it was probably philosophers

Half way through the century was the age of the modern musician/bands ( and thus the coining of the term ‘rockstar’) and the riches that followed with album and single sales. Latterly in the period came the age of the global movie star and the enormous sums of money they could attain to be in a film in the 80s/90s.

We are now in the age of sport stars being the pinnacle of society in terms of fame and riches.

No doubt, at some point in the future, it will be someone else’s turn.
 

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Certain groups of people being the ‘rockstars’ of the world, and paid and lauded as such, has always been cyclical or rather progressive. Many moons ago, artists and classical composers were the ‘rockstars’ of their day. Renaissance artists earning commissions from ultra rich families, and their work being adorned worldwide. Even longer ago before that, it was probably philosophers

Half way through the century was the age of the modern musician/bands ( and thus the coining of the term ‘rockstar’) and the riches that followed with album and single sales. Latterly in the period came the age of the global movie star and the enormous sums of money they could attain to be in a film in the 80s/90s.

We are now in the age of sport stars being the pinnacle of society in terms of fame and riches.

No doubt, at some point in the future, it will be someone else’s turn.
Pure social media people.
 

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Pure social media people.
Certain groups of people being the ‘rockstars’ of the world, and paid and lauded as such, has always been cyclical or rather progressive. Many moons ago, artists and classical composers were the ‘rockstars’ of their day. Renaissance artists earning commissions from ultra rich families, and their work being adorned worldwide. Even longer ago before that, it was probably philosophers

Half way through the century was the age of the modern musician/bands ( and thus the coining of the term ‘rockstar’) and the riches that followed with album and single sales. Latterly in the period came the age of the global movie star and the enormous sums of money they could attain to be in a film in the 80s/90s.

We are now in the age of sport stars being the pinnacle of society in terms of fame and riches.

No doubt, at some point in the future, it will be someone else’s turn.

It's basically the entertainment business. Whatever people are willing to pay to watch, look at or hear. It will always be the way. Just wonder why it's only footballers that get the stick for having that particular talent, when others seem to be immune.
 

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It's basically the entertainment business. Whatever people are willing to pay to watch, look at or hear. It will always be the way. Just wonder why it's only footballers that get the stick for having that particular talent, when others seem to be immune.
A good player in the NBA can comfortably earn more than $10million a year (fully guaranteed), if your team is in a city with no income tax then that's an added bonus.

Football is the biggest sport in the world, many people default to it when making comparisons because they don't know any better and some are also jealous.
 

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It's basically the entertainment business. Whatever people are willing to pay to watch, look at or hear. It will always be the way. Just wonder why it's only footballers that get the stick for having that particular talent, when others seem to be immune.
Probably something to do with class. Football being a predominantly working class game. Acting a very middle class one.
 

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Probably something to do with class. Football being a predominantly working class game. Acting a very middle class one.
Society cannot be divided into the old classes anymore. The lines have become much more blurry (thankfully).

Social mobility is much bigger today than in the past, and the working class has predominantly turned into what you would earlier describe as the middle-class. The lower class today would probably be predominantly unemployed people. At least that's how it looks here in Scandinavia. I know Britain is a bit different, but still.
 

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You're right but it's not just footballers. A lot of sports stars are getting huge money now. I always wonder why actors are never criticised in the same way when they are getting X number of millions for a few months filming.
Supply and demand.

We create the demand for their entertainment and so they can earn these amounts, be it an actor or a sports star.
Now that demand can be global and increases the revenue.
 
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