The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 4th July 2014

[Mr Pink]

About Suarez ban being reduced? That seems to have come from thin air

The Uruguayan media.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

No one posting Ali Z's latest musings? He's suggesting we may go (back) in for Caulker!

Greg Stobart said there is no chance of that happening. It seems the rumours about Caulker's departure being political were true. Something about Joe Lewis's daughter, was it?...

@Breezer knew something IIRC.

 

[SpurSince57]

No one posting Ali Z's latest musings? He's suggesting we may go (back) in for Caulker!

Apparently not.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

The Uruguayan media.

As soon as he leaves the PL, I don't give a fuck about him anymore.

 

[SpurSince57]

Greg Stobart said there is no chance of that happening. It seems the rumours about Caulker's departure being political were true. Something about Joe Lewis's daughter, was it?...

@Breezer knew something IIRC.

I think he mistook her for a waitress and called her an old slapper when the team visited Lewis' floating gin palace—something along those lines, anyway.

 

[LiamJM10]

Six is more than eight? Are you sure? You're also omitting the rather salient fact that last season Paulinho played almost as many minutes as Sigurdsson has in two, aren't you? Should we leave aside the point that Paulinho's only created 20 scoring chances against Sigurdsson's 36?

And everyone's pretty much agreed that Sigurdsson isn't really up to the required standard, aren't they?

A whole lot more than conversion rate needs to improve next season.

Paulinho scored 8 goals last season though. More than Sig managed in either of his seasons at the club.

From a deeper role.
In central midfield.
Without even playing well.

Absolute bullshit about minutes, Sigurdsson has made EIGHTY FIVE appearances for us. Yes, that is correct, no typo.

Paulinho's job isn't to create chances though? Never has, never will be. So why are you expecting him to do so? We bought him as...with best use of an example, a young frank lampard of sorts. A true box to box midfield with a taste for a goal. His conversion rate has been shit, yes, but I'd be more concerned if he wasn't getting into those positions, than his misses. Exactly the same for Soldado actually, I'd rather someone still have the natural ability to get themselves into goalscoring positions and miss them, than not get into them at all.

Paulinho's frustrating as shit, but he's better than Sigurdsson by a mile.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Paulinho scored 8 goals last season though. More than Sig managed in either of his seasons at the club.

From a deeper role.
In central midfield.
Without even playing well.

Absolute bullshit about minutes, Sigurdsson has made EIGHTY FIVE appearances for us. Yes, that is correct, no typo.

Paulinho's job isn't to create chances though? Never has, never will be. So why are you expecting him to do so? We bought him as...with best use of an example, a young frank lampard of sorts. A true box to box midfield with a taste for a goal. His conversion rate has been shit, yes, but I'd be more concerned if he wasn't getting into those positions, than his misses. Exactly the same for Soldado actually, I'd rather someone still have the natural ability to get themselves into goalscoring positions and miss them, than not get into them at all.

Paulinho's frustrating as shit, but he's better than Sigurdsson by a mile.

@LiamJM10 has a YouTube video with nearly 5 million views. Don't argue with him.

 

[WiganSpur]

Difference here is they appear to have a capable manager.

This is true but any manager would find it much harder without a truly world class player. Plus they'll be likely to make a lot of signings which will probably need a season to gel. We learned that last year.

 

[SpurSince57]

Paulinho scored 8 goals last season though. More than Sig managed in either of his seasons at the club.

From a deeper role.
In central midfield.
Without even playing well.

Absolute bullshit about minutes, Sigurdsson has made EIGHTY FIVE appearances for us. Yes, that is correct, no typo.

Paulinho's job isn't to create chances though? Never has, never will be. So why are you expecting him to do so? We bought him as...with best use of an example, a young frank lampard of sorts. A true box to box midfield with a taste for a goal. His conversion rate has been shit, yes, but I'd be more concerned if he wasn't getting into those positions, than his misses. Exactly the same for Soldado actually, I'd rather someone still have the natural ability to get themselves into goalscoring positions and miss them, than not get into them at all.

Paulinho's frustrating as shit, but he's better than Sigurdsson by a mile.

Not in the league, he didn't.

Sigurdsson has had 58 league appearances (26 starts) totalling 2495 minutes, Paulinho 30 (28 starts) totalling 2381 minutes. Don't they teach you how to do sums any more?

Would you? I'd rather someone had the natural ability to get into goalscoring positions and score. And quite clearly,as Sigurdsson's goalscoring record (not to mention his ability to create chances) is superior to Paulinho's, it would appear—by definition—that he does possess the ability to get into goalscoring positions, otherwise he wouldn't have scored at all, would he?

 

[Snarfalicious]

This is true but any manager would find it much harder without a truly world class player. Plus they'll be likely to make a lot of signings which will probably need a season to gel. We learned that last year.

They've added Can, Markovic (reportedly), Lallana and Lambert so far. Can/Markovic are mostly ones for the future wherease Lallana and Lambert are proven PL performers. Lallana comes from a side that preached full team pressing similar to Liverpool and I think him behind Sturridge with Coutinho/Sterling on either side will be quite effective. I don't see as much need for transitioning players for Liverpool as we had last year. We looked to add about 5-6 new starters to our side in our 2013 Summer window whereas I believe Liverpool are looking at 1-3 (and it's looking like 2 of those - Lallana/Lovren might be PL proven) and the others being added to transition into the team slowly but also to help provide quality, youthful depth for their now busy season that includes Champions League.

 

[y1dk1d]

Tiny update guys but due to the fact we're all starved of ITK I hope it's worth some value. I asked JJ on twitter about Konoplyanka bc there's not been much on him recently. He replied saying he's not on our radar. Hardly ITK but the best I can do

 

[Indisguise]

Tiny update guys but due to the fact we're all starved of ITK I hope it's worth some value. I asked JJ on twitter about Konoplyanka bc there's not been much on him recently. He replied saying he's not on our radar. Hardly ITK but the best I can do

Oh well, that's one song we won't be singing then. Kono-ply-ankaaaaa, I'm just a bird in the sky.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Tiny update guys but due to the fact we're all starved of ITK I hope it's worth some value. I asked JJ on twitter about Konoplyanka bc there's not been much on him recently. He replied saying he's not on our radar. Hardly ITK but the best I can do

Ask him something more positive please.......

 

[y1dk1d]

Ask him something more positive please.......

Aha, want to ask loads but feel like you have to be respectful. Also I don't think anyone has a great idea of what's going on atm

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Jesus christ. Pass me a noose.

Even if we didn't sign anybody this summer, we'll still be better off than last year. All of our newer players will have a year of experience in the PL, and Mr Erik Lamela is now ready to be unleashed!

We also have a manager who can build fantastic squad morale and get us playing fluid, effective football.

Regardless, we will strengthen this summer, and going by ITK and reliable journalists; in all the right areas! Just show some bloody patience.

Take the nooses off, and stop acting like a bunch of pansies

 

[Indisguise]

I think this is quite interesting.

1. Addicted to Spurs ‏@AddictedtoSpurs 12h
   According to TF1 in France, Tottenham Hotspur will now make their move for QPR & France striker Loic Remy. #THFC http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/07/06/tottenham-hotspur-prepare-loic-remy-assault/148770/…
   
   
   
   
   
2. 
   The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets 12h
   @AddictedtoSpurs not true
   
   
   
3. Tottenham Talk ‏@tottenhamtalk1 11h
   @jetsetyid are we not in for Remy or is his move to arsenal happening? Also is Dawson off?
   
   
   
4. The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets 2h
   @tottenhamtalk1 I couldn't guess where Remy is going ?
   
   
   
   
   
5. 
   Tottenham Talk ‏@tottenhamtalk1 2h
   @jetsetyid are we even in for him
   
   
   
6. The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets 2h
   @tottenhamtalk1 depends on many other events
   
   
   
7. Tottenham Talk ‏@tottenhamtalk1 2h
   @jetsetyid could you at least give a name of a target that isnt davies?
   
   
   
8. The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets 2h
   @tottenhamtalk1 or read the daily mail as it's been in there ....
   
   
   
9. Tottenham Talk ‏@tottenhamtalk1 2h
   @jetsetyid Lascelles?
   
   
   
10. The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets 2h
    @tottenhamtalk1 FFS it's twitter !!
    
    
    
11. Tottenham Talk ‏@tottenhamtalk1 2h
    @jetsetyid not sure what that's supposed to mean but fair enough
    

The original JJetset‏@jetsetyid Protected Tweets

@tottenhamtalk1 too early to comment and don't want it to get out yet.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I clicked informative, but I have to be honest and say I am none the wiser really. It was more an act of appreciation for the whoring effort.

Inwhoremative ?

 

[Indisguise]

To be honest, the only thing I gleaned from it is that Remy ain't looking too likely, which isn't a surprise. A case of something being better than nothing, but only just.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Who have we been linked to in The Daily Mail ?

 

[Tom Pops]

Who have we been linked to in The Daily Mail ?

Lascelles