The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 26th August 2013

[Dirty Ewok]

Most notable name I saw was Javier Pastore. If only!

Ever Banega on there as well....solid little playmaker.

 

[Yid1987]

The agent in London representing Lamela is Pablo Sabbag!

 

[spursfan77]

This agent the journalist mentioned sounds a bit dodgy.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/sep/14/chelsea-juan-mata-javier-pastore

Juan Mata's two goals in two midfield starts for Chelsea suggest he is already repaying Roman Abramovich's £23.5m investment in him, unlike another Spain international who cost more than twice as much.

He has also saved Chelsea a potential headache for more than football reasons after they chose not to conclude their interest in Palermo's Javier Pastore. The Argentina international's agent, Marcelo Simonian, is said to have visited London for talks with Chelsea on 29 July after Pastore's club had described his transfer to Stamford Bridge as "very likely".

But something changed after that date and Paris Saint-Germain – now belonging to Qatar's sovereign-wealth fund – moved in, paying €43m (£37.3m) for the forward. A case before the Sicilian courts gives us an indication of what turned Chelsea off.

In the case Palermo will claim that, when Pastore was still with Argentina's Atlético Huracán, they ceded a portion of his economic rights to Simonian's Dodici Sports Management. Then, Palermo will say, when he joined them a deal was agreed whereby Dodici would receive a portion of any future transfer fee. This is perhaps up to half of the total fee due – if so, more than £18.5m.

Now the Sicilian courts are considering a complaint from Palermo alleging Simonian is "extorting" the money from them. They claim Simonian told Pastore that he should not sign for PSG unless Palermo agreed to pay over his half of the fee. Simonian denies that charge, claiming also he owned all of Pastore's "economic rights" until he sold half to Palermo and is therefore due half the fee from PSG.

Palermo are believed to have said they will pay no more than ¤12.5m (£10.8m). With Mata delivering, Chelsea look wise to have avoided being dragged into a messy legal wrangle that would have exposed details of their transfer business in public.

 

[tiger666]

This agent the journalist mentioned sounds a bit dodgy.

What a surprise..

 

[sebo_sek]

It's a bullshit pep talk unfortunately.

But it's true. My point was that Bale is no position to DEMAND anything. He is not THFC and THFC is not him. Having watched us play against Swansea I tru;y don't care if Bale stays. This squad is really gelling quickly. I have a feeling that putting Bale in there would unsettle things. Think about it. Bale was absent ALL preseason. The new guys don't know him, have NEVER played with him, or trained with him for that matter. We are entering a new phase of development and there might not be space for Bale in it. Just like Guardiola who let Ronaldinho and Eto'o go when he started his revolution. Madness right? Wrong.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Could the Journalist's info mean Pastore in a deal for Bale to PSG?

 

[quackers]

Could the Journalist's info mean Pastore in a deal for Bale to PSG?

Sounds fun pastore + 70m would be a great deal

 

[Yid1987]

Could the Journalist's info mean Pastore in a deal for Bale to PSG?

Or we are using the money that was available for Willian to try and buy Pastore??

 

[sebo_sek]

Bale staying would be the deal of the summer.

But would he get back to his form if he doesn't want to be here? Just putting it out there. I think we need to get over him

 

[Kiedis]

Pastore is slow, lazy and hyped. Not a AVB type player.

 

[jambreck]

This agent the journalist mentioned sounds a bit dodgy.

Dodgy agent......

......tautology.

 

[spursfan77]

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[Berglad]

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I'd expect our CB business will be done with Chiriches

 

[Misfit]

Could the Journalist's info mean Pastore in a deal for Bale to PSG?

It would be lovely but Bale says a flat no to PSG imo.

 

[beast89]

Anyone else at the yesterday get the impression that the dembele itk earlier on in the window about his injury is spot on?
Didn't move about the pitch at all well did he

 

[HappySpur]

I don't think Simonian owns any part of Lamela like he did with Pastore. So that's good.

 

[TheAmerican]

Banega would be a nice little pickup, not sure how Pastore would fit with AVB's system.

 

[Misfit]

Anyone else at the yesterday get the impression that the dembele itk earlier on in the window about his injury is spot on?
Didn't move about the pitch at all well did he

He was charging all over the place several times. Had a terrible afternoon by his standards though. Didn't see anything to say he's proper screwed.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Anyone else at the yesterday get the impression that the dembele itk earlier on in the window about his injury is spot on?
Didn't move about the pitch at all well did he

Dembele has looked a little more lost with the rampant Paulinho popping up everywhere, difficult to tell if thats to do with the ITK on injury or just a readjustment of role in the team.

 

[Grey Fox]

Exactly, I think the poor sod was a little worse for ware this morning

Just a bit had to have another lay down