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Scott Spur

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Ok, next time I hear an ITK say DONE I'm gonna take it that we have at least a week of negotiations left and anything can happen...
 

Bulletspur

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some people here need to cop on! naturally disappointing to lose out on Willian in such circumstances, but lets be honest he only became a major target last week when he was placed on the transfer list! I'm sure we have other targets, quality targets!

and lets not forget about a certain Lewis Holtby, whom i feel can be the creative spark we need if he is given a substantial run in the team! we have the best squad in ages, lets realise that!
My gripe is not losing Willian, but how it was done. As others have said, Chelsea taking him just out of spite or to weaken us when in all honesty they dont need him. I think he thought we would be a threat.
 

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If bale goes we are desperately short of goalscorers. We need 5 players to get cl.

Backup striker
2 goalscoring midfielders
Left back
Reserve centre back

With 1 week left. Cant see it.


I tend to agree as long as you're referring to wide forwards when you say "goal scoring midfielders" and I actually don't think it's far-fetched. There's strong rumors about Chiriches, Lamela could be completed early next week, Todor Nedelev sounds a bit promising but I'm not sure if he's a buy-to-loan candidate, granted LB is completely up in the air, but grabbing a backup striker is only needed if we can't sell Ade or Defoe which is looking increasingly likely as there isn't much talk about either departing anymore and after that we really just need an attacking midfielder/wide forward type. We've still got 10 days left.


Last year, with more limited funds, in the final 10-11 days of the window we still ended up with Dembele, Dempsey, Lloris and Adebayor. Have faith.
 

ButchCassidy

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If bale goes we are desperately short of goalscorers. We need 5 players to get cl.

Backup striker
2 goalscoring midfielders
Left back
Reserve centre back

With 1 week left. Cant see it.


We really aren't though. We lose Bale and gain Soldado. We lose Dempsey and gain Chadli and Paulinho. Another wing forward or creator would be nice, but we have a similar number of goals in our team now as we did last season. We just don't have the same amount we were all fantasizing about three days ago.
 

Snarfalicious

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We really aren't though. We lose Bale and gain Soldado. We lose Dempsey and gain Chadli and Paulinho. Another wing forward or creator would be nice, but we have a similar number of goals in our team now as we did last season. We just don't have the same amount we were all fantasizing about three days ago.


I still think if we add a guy like Lamela we put ourselves in fine position moving forward. If we can get him over the line I'm sure we will had 2-3 more players as well. When you think about adding 4 contributors to this already deep side, it's a very promising scenario.

For instance, Lamela, Chiriches, Coentrao (Still think we will end up with him) and a guy like Eriksen/Cabella/Dzagoev, etc. and we'll be quite alright moving forward.
 

lecoq

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We really aren't though. We lose Bale and gain Soldado. We lose Dempsey and gain Chadli and Paulinho. Another wing forward or creator would be nice, but we have a similar number of goals in our team now as we did last season. We just don't have the same amount we were all fantasizing about three days ago.

If we want cl we need more than that. Lamela would be ideal. But we also need a better attacking playmaker that can score. Maybe pastore or eriksen.
 

teok

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I don't know why any one would question our itk? Chelsea trolled the fuck out of us, if any thing it just proves the info is legit.
 

sebo_sek

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As far as creators go I would say that we have Paulinho, Holtby and Tommy Carroll in the centre. Even if we fail to bring in anyone (I reckon it will be Eriksen in the end) we are fine. And with Chadli, Lennon, Townsend on the wings we seem to Ok-ish, though Lamela would be terriffic. Vlad, Lamela, Eriksen and I am a happy man, watering at the mouth at the prospect of challenging for the league.
The problem for me, and it's a big one is LB - Rose is so poor at defending even the backwater of Europe (Dinamo Tbilisi) identified him as THE weak point in the team and advanced through that channel.
 

Imnotacticalgenius

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If bale goes we are desperately short of goalscorers. We need 5 players to get cl.

Backup striker
2 goalscoring midfielders
Left back
Reserve centre back

With 1 week left. Cant see it.

This is my personal view. Might not be agreed by many here. Spurs scoring problem last season might in part be due to Bale "selfishness". I remember seeing the second or third game when Ade back, he was looking unhappy when Bale scored instead of passing to him. That's to me the start of Ade nonchalant performances till the last few games of the season. Due to that, and Defoe being another "selfish" player, it seemed to me like a competition between those 3 to score on their own rather (more for Bale and Defoe) than play as a team. So it is indirectly AVB fault (cannot really blame AVB as Spurs needed a goal scorer then ) as Bale rose to prominence but it is also due to AVB that Bale value has gone up many fold. Spurs profile move up in tandem with Bale profile as well.

Heard AVB is moving Ade and Defoe on (although papers said AVB wants defoe to stay) from some ITKs here. So if the 3 of these move on eventually, i foresee a more balance team play in the final third. Non of the players brought in are "selfish", not even Lamela. So i expect the likes of Soldado, Chadli, Townsend, Paulinho and even Lennon to contribute better in the scoring department. But i agree, we still need to have a back up no.9. and upgrade Kane to be third choice. I really like what AVB and Spurs are doing to strengthen the team.

From those mooted moves recently (of coz minus Willian, which i think fits Spurs as a 10 greatly), getting Lamela, Chiriches and a 10 are the priorities. Get these 3 in asap (who ever the no.10 is) and then move on players the last few days and that second no.9 in.....
Interesting to see if we eventually get Eriksen as the no.10 in the next few days or wait for January for cut price (i know that Eriksen stated he will extend his stay in Ajax if not moving this summer, but a certain GB11 said that as well right)

Have faith that Spurs will not be the same after this transfer window anymore. Spurs will be a stronger entity all round! COYS!!!
 

ButchCassidy

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I still think if we add a guy like Lamela we put ourselves in fine position moving forward. If we can get him over the line I'm sure we will had 2-3 more players as well. When you think about adding 4 contributors to this already deep side, it's a very promising scenario.

For instance, Lamela, Chiriches, Coentrao (Still think we will end up with him) and a guy like Eriksen/Cabella/Dzagoev, etc. and we'll be quite alright moving forward.


I agree completely, but the overreaction to losing Willian on this board has been tremendous. We are in no worse of a position than we were a week ago. We will add players, and we know we will have a good squad because we already do have a good squad! Everything from here just pushes us closer and closer to the top.

If we want cl we need more than that. Lamela would be ideal. But we also need a better attacking playmaker that can score. Maybe pastore or eriksen.

We don't need another AM (after Lamela). We want it, and it would probably help us, but we don't need it. Last year our front three was Dempsey-Ade-Lennon. This year it could be Chadli-Soldado-Lamela. Thats a massive improvement that goes a long way to making up for the loss of Bale. If we get a 35m player for our left wing, awesome - but don't fool yourself into thinking that we must have it or we can't compete for CL.
 

wee_spur

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If bale goes we are desperately short of goalscorers. We need 5 players to get cl.

Backup striker
2 goalscoring midfielders
Left back
Reserve centre back

With 1 week left. Cant see it.

Why not? According to the ITK we could have :
a lb as part of bale transfer (or discussions of a spare transfer)
A cb (Vlad) soon
Lsmella v soon

That only leaves a.n. other plus a back up striker which we can only afford wages wise if ade is off so have to wait anyway.
 
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