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whitechina

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If he doesn't want to be here then I really really hope we do as it will just cause disruption within the squad and negative media all season which won't help our cause at all. Big shame if it hasn't worked out for him but hopefully we can cut our losses and get close to the cash we paid for him to we can re-invest it in other areas. It seems from what Herc and other ITK's have recently been saying that RB and ST are next priorities and we have a small budget for those e.g. Aurier sale money will go on a new RB and other players sold will go towards the ST position and then anything else will be dependent on sales of other players of which Ndombele would be a big cash cow. Issue now is will anyone pay for him and if so can we get it sorted before the last day of the window otherwise we will have no time to spend the sale funds to replace him or further improve the balance of the squad.

Interesting next month or so ahead.
There seems little point creating an emotional space in your consciousness where TN is somehow a victim of Mourinho’s ruthless pragmatism. We’ve heard this from so many sources that he’s a lazy bastard who’s surrounded himself with a disruptive entourage. Pre-Mourinho he was hardly consistent, nor has he been all season. When all the evidence you can possible find points to him being at fault, then it’s probably true.

Ignoring this is like being in a relationship with a profoundly attractive person, and even though you catch them in the arms of someone else, you make lame excuses because the potential of what you’d like the relationship to be is far more attractive than the gritty, shitty truth
Let’s be honest... 2 wrongs don’t make a right ?
If we could possibly replace Ndombele for Sabitzer we would be buying a less talented player but massively improving the team.
Hmmmm, this is nonsense. Driven by the fact that you obviously dislike Mourinho. Tanguy hasn't impressed with his work-rate or his pressing, he's looked decent in fits and starts but nothing as special as you make out.
I'll back the manager on this one and if Tanguy is tearing things up in a years time? Then good luck to him, he'll have learnt his lesson and decided to pull his finger out.
We can't afford to wait for him.
I was going to write a long post about how much I hate laziness and bad attitudes, but f**k it, I can't be bothered.

All of the posts in here today have led to fascinating reading (except the guy who hasn't read the rules) and the above are some of the best for a long time.
The future looks really positive from the clubs POV.
Everyone except ND seem to be pulling in the same direction and this is great.
This summer is going to be long and let's hope we move on who needs to be and upgrades are ready to go from the off.
 

Bulletspur

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Can't comment on the rest of that because I don't know. The Bale stuff however is 100% not true.
I would think so as it does not make sense either tactically or financially. It does not even make sentimentally as that boat has sailed and we as a club have moved on.
 

AberdeenYid

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Come on you big jock lump you. As an ex COYS mod(at least I think you were) you know rules are more important than even life itself. Breaking said rules are punishable by death. Well as far as COYS were concerned they were.:whistle:
I know you’ve always loved me. Certainly wasn’t a mod though!
 

worcestersauce

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Harry Kane will be 28 next summer, at 28 a player is going to ask himself if it's time to reassess his career, if Harry wasn't one of our own he'd have done it this year. He may reassess his career and decide he wants to stay but don't imagine that leaving us won't be put to him.
Therefore when some of us talk about a new striker being just a back up we may be wrong, it may be that we are also preparing for the future.
 
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AberdeenYid

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Then i'd make it my business to find out before you find yourself wishing you had. Up to you though.
I’ve read them. A couple of times. And I just don’t understand I’m afraid. If we are to discuss the day’s ITK, and that ITK says we are in for a £50m striker, are we not able to discuss who that may be? I only posted a name of a possibility after reading several pages of Ings and Jiminez.

So it’s not that I haven’t read the rules. Actually acutely aware that writing this is probably breaking them, but I can’t post my question on the rules page, so I’ve little recourse.
 

elfy

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I’ve read them. A couple of times. And I just don’t understand I’m afraid. If we are to discuss the day’s ITK, and that ITK says we are in for a £50m striker, are we not able to discuss who that may be? I only posted a name of a possibility after reading several pages of Ings and Jiminez.

So it’s not that I haven’t read the rules. Actually acutely aware that writing this is probably breaking them, but I can’t post my question on the rules page, so I’ve little recourse.

Because what happens, every window without fail:

People start posting a couple of names that might fit with the ITK (which is fine)
Then someone starts posting names of someone that doesnt fit with the ITK
This encourages people to discuss a player we have no intention of signing (then at the end of the window have a rant that we didnt sign them even though noone ever said we even looking)
Then someone posts players they think we SHOULD be in for
Everyone discusses this for a while and posts how these imaginary players will fit in our formation.
Someone then says how shit some of our players are (usually Lamela or Sissoko)
This is discussed for a while before someone does calculations on the back of a fag packet saying if we sell x y and z we can sign whoever Chelsea, city or liverpool are in for.
Then someone mentions they read something on twitter.....
A and c then loses his shit and threatens to shut the thread and everyone moans about what an arsehole he is.
Finally, at least one idiot mentions Bale.
And the thread is shut.
This is the reason for the (unwritten) rule we do not play guessing games with ITK!
 
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C0YS

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I’ve read them. A couple of times. And I just don’t understand I’m afraid. If we are to discuss the day’s ITK, and that ITK says we are in for a £50m striker, are we not able to discuss who that may be? I only posted a name of a possibility after reading several pages of Ings and Jiminez.

So it’s not that I haven’t read the rules. Actually acutely aware that writing this is probably breaking them, but I can’t post my question on the rules page, so I’ve little recourse.
It can be confusing, I think this thread is supposed to mostly be ITK then maybe a few relevant comments and that's it. The site has decided that the priority for this thread is the ease of finding relevant information quickly and easily, and is how many people use this thread.

If you want to speculate or discuss strikers, you can find that in the player threads which work like every other thread in this forum and are not particularly strongly moderated. Or maybe in some other way. Personally, I do wish there was a messy thread where people could wildly speculate and talk freely about transfers, the scouting thread was kind of like that but it got locked as the window started. But ultimately, there are plenty of other forums where you are welcome to do that, so a more organised approach isn't the worst thing.
 

Ron Burgundy

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going back to the earlier Ndombele ITK - i'm pretty certain that on this forum some 6 or 9 months or so ago that there was ITK from someone that Lloris had been sounded out about Ndombele and advised Poch to steer clear based off his experiences of working with him in the French national squad. Would be quite telling now as obviously back then we were still perhaps a little blinkered as to the extent of his attitude problems.

If that’s true it’s borderline negligent to then sign him
 

JKendall13

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It seems to me that the realization that the Ndombele situation cannot be salvaged has led to increasing ambition in our summer transfer plans. That makes me extremely nervous considering Levy’s track record on delivering signings under pressure.

Personally, I was totally content with a relatively low key summer that balanced the squad by adding competent and realistic signings like Hojbjerg, Wilson, Celik, Aarons and Kim.
 

Marvola

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I’ve read them. A couple of times. And I just don’t understand I’m afraid. If we are to discuss the day’s ITK, and that ITK says we are in for a £50m striker, are we not able to discuss who that may be? I only posted a name of a possibility after reading several pages of Ings and Jiminez.

So it’s not that I haven’t read the rules. Actually acutely aware that writing this is probably breaking them, but I can’t post my question on the rules page, so I’ve little recourse.
I’ll add to the likelihood of my rectum getting a dose from the stick, but I kind of agree with where you’re coming from... seems it was fine for a couple of folks to say £50mill striker, must be Ings, or must be Jimenez, then DCL got chucked in... but hey, don’t mention one more? Wasn’t you saying you hoped / wanted to sign him etc... but must be a line somewhere I guess?! ?

*grabs coat*

Just as a key point - I fully respect and big up all the ITKs, mods, A&C, Rob and co, keep it up chaps ?
 

dondo

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I’ve read them. A couple of times. And I just don’t understand I’m afraid. If we are to discuss the day’s ITK, and that ITK says we are in for a £50m striker, are we not able to discuss who that may be? I only posted a name of a possibility after reading several pages of Ings and Jiminez.

So it’s not that I haven’t read the rules. Actually acutely aware that writing this is probably breaking them, but I can’t post my question on the rules page, so I’ve little recourse.


I try not to post in the ITK thread and use it as a read only thread and use the player threads for discussion even if it’s for recent ITK information as it’s very easy to get sidetracked into a different debate and get of topic (as I am now ?)
 
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