Takeover talk

[tiger666]

If only Pochettino was finally backed properly this summer which the guy practically begged Levy for, both in terms of buying and selling, after obediently net spending fuck all on players for 5 years!!! we could have been flying this season!!!! instead of being in this fucking mess !!!!! ??????

Losing the dressing room, key players wanting to leave wouldn't have mattered?

 

[coys200]

Why do people keep bringing up previous windows it’s irrelevant now. You have to judge ENIC reign in 3 periods.

1. Pre new stadium
2. Stadium under construction
3. Post stadium

In period 2 £400m cash was paid off the stadium which clearly correlates to what we spent in the window. You have to judge the spending from this summer which imo was adequate. And we’ve also just acquired a very talented 21 year old that hopefully will end up as a buy. When Man City started spending people didn’t say oh it doesn’t count cause you didn’t spend anything for 20 years. Judge ENIC spending from now.

 

[rez9000]

I'm starting to think that Levy fella doesn't deserve the unbridled adulation I've heaped on him over the years

Yes, it has been a bit syrupy at times, A&C...

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Yes, it has been a bit syrupy at times, A&C...

 

[Graysonti]

Why do people keep bringing up previous windows it’s irrelevant now. You have to judge ENIC reign in 3 periods.

1. Pre new stadium
2. Stadium under construction
3. Post stadium

In period 2 £400m cash was paid off the stadium which clearly correlates to what we spent in the window. You have to judge the spending from this summer which imo was adequate. And we’ve also just acquired a very talented 21 year old that hopefully will end up as a buy. When Man City started spending people didn’t say oh it doesn’t count cause you didn’t spend anything for 20 years. Judge ENIC spending from now.

agree and we have/are/will see (ing) a lift already.

If in three years nothing changed, we can all push for the ENIC out camp.

I honestly think we will see decent spending - why ? Because it makes good business sense. Your not building that stadium and putting crap footballers in it - money makes money.

 

[shelfmonkey]

If only Pochettino was finally backed properly this summer which the guy practically begged Levy for, both in terms of buying and selling, after obediently net spending fuck all on players for 5 years!!! we could have been flying this season!!!! instead of being in this fucking mess !!!!! ??????

Totally agree

 

[Marauder]

Why do people keep bringing up previous windows it’s irrelevant now. You have to judge ENIC reign in 3 periods.

1. Pre new stadium
2. Stadium under construction
3. Post stadium

In period 2 £400m cash was paid off the stadium which clearly correlates to what we spent in the window. You have to judge the spending from this summer which imo was adequate. And we’ve also just acquired a very talented 21 year old that hopefully will end up as a buy. When Man City started spending people didn’t say oh it doesn’t count cause you didn’t spend anything for 20 years. Judge ENIC spending from now.

Yeah and it's going really well so far... After spending a grand total of £0 in the previous two windows, and a fuck all net spent in the last 5 years really, we got.... wait for it.... 1 senior signing in the summer.............. Taaaraaa!! Oh and 1 loan. It's fucking overwhelming the spending so far mate!

Oh and have you noticed his new trick - loan deals. So basically a signing is unveiled with great fanfare (a loan) but it's not really a signing is it. So if the loan eventually turns into a permanent deal, then it will be unveiled as a new signing, hooraaayy!! So we have reached a new low of stinginess when it should be the opposite. The same player counted as a new signing over multiple windows!! Or do you think when the loan is made permanent and say it costs £40 - £50 million, we will also spend on top of that another £60 - £70 - £80 million for proper new signings in that window?

p.s.- If we don't sign a fucking centre forward this window.............

 

[Gb160]

Yeah and it's going really well so far... After spending a grand total of £0 in the previous two windows, and a fuck all net spent in the last 5 years really, we got.... wait for it.... 1 senior signing in the summer.............. Taaaraaa!! Oh and 1 loan. It's fucking overwhelming the spending so far mate!

Oh and have you noticed his new trick - loan deals. So basically a signing is unveiled with great fanfare (a loan) but it's not really a signing is it. So if the loan eventually turns into a permanent deal, then it will be unveiled as a new signing, hooraaayy!! So we have reached a new low of stinginess when it should be the opposite. The same player counted as a new signing over multiple windows!! Or do you think when the loan is made permanent and say it costs £40 - £50 million, we will also spend on top of that another £60 - £70 - £80 million for proper new signings in that window?

p.s.- If we don't sign a fucking centre forward this window.............

With the loan thing there's always a permanent option, it's not a trick, it makes complete sense unless you're determined to find some imaginary negative.

 

[Clarky1304]

1. 3 senior signings
2. So he was backed
3. He was backed in one window and "not backed" in January 2019 because he wanted to be backed with his targets - not Tielemans etc

Are you claiming that Sessegnon, a 19 year old, is part of the giant rebuild that we require?
He wasn’t backed. At all. Not just in that window but in many others across his tenure. It would be ridiculous to suggest that barring the last window we obtained the following:

1) The positions we needed to refresh
2) The targets that were Poch’s number 1’s

Fact is we had a manager who consistently had us punching in spite of a relatively average squad in a variety of positions. And the crazy thing is that we have now brought in a manager who requires serious investment to function.

I am grateful to the board for the training ground and the stadium. Great job, well done.

But you simply cannot claim that they have done their part in terms of squad maintenance and improving our chances of competing.

 

[GutBucket]

Losing the dressing room, key players wanting to leave wouldn't have mattered?

Maybe we could finally move some players then, if nothing else he should have stayed until summer just because of that. Core is Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Son, Alli and Kane. Only Kane was implied by ITK to be unhappy with Pochettino out of those and he is always injured anyway, anyone else can leave. Net spend of 7m during his tenure is nothing but even bigger problem is wage limit and players we missed out on because of it. Giving Mane 120k p/w or so was too much couple of years ago but now club is happy to give more to even younger and more unproven players. Or players who are getting older and average like Sissoko and players past their prime like Toby. Bruno Fernandes is too expensive now but 3 years from now we will spend 75m on some 20 year old CB from Ajax and 100m on some unproven midfielder etc. We became reactive instead of proactive in transfer market and we suck at it. And there are few things more Spursy than Levy being the one who pushed for earlier transfer window ending in Premiership.

 

[Trust1457]

Maybe we could finally move some players then, if nothing else he should have stayed until summer just because of that. Core is Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Son, Alli and Kane. Only Kane was implied by ITK to be unhappy with Pochettino out of those and he is always injured anyway, anyone else can leave. Net spend of 7m during his tenure is nothing but even bigger problem is wage limit and players we missed out on because of it. Giving Mane 120k p/w or so was too much couple of years ago but now club is happy to give more to even younger and more unproven players. Or players who are getting older and average like Sissoko and players past their prime like Toby. Bruno Fernandes is too expensive now but 3 years from now we will spend 75m on some 20 year old CB from Ajax and 100m on some unproven midfielder etc. We became reactive instead of proactive in transfer market and we suck at it. And there are few things more Spursy than Levy being the one who pushed for earlier transfer window ending in Premiership.

Giving Mane 120k p/w as the best earner at the club then would be stupid decision as we had Son,Kane,Dele,Eriksen... Not sure he would be guaranteed starter. Now more than 120k earns only Kane, Son, Dele and Ndombele. Tanguy was crucial for summer so he should be one of the top earner.

For me we don't have any problem with wage. We are offering good money for who deserves this.

 

[GutBucket]

Giving Mane 120k p/w as the best earner at the club then would be stupid decision as we had Son,Kane,Dele,Eriksen... Not sure he would be guaranteed starter. Now more than 120k earns only Kane, Son, Dele and Ndombele. Tanguy was crucial for summer so he should be one of the top earner.

For me we don't have any problem with wage. We are offering good money for who deserves this.

Only Son plays on left wing in similar role, Mane, Kane and Eriksen would play together. Or one of Mane/Son could play on right wing and other on left. Literally would have been perfect signing, pace, amazing passing, pressing, goal-scoring. If that's a stupid decision than I really don't know.

 

[Trust1457]

Only Son plays on left wing in similar role, Mane, Kane and Eriksen would play together. Or one of Mane/Son could play on right wing and other on left. Literally would have been perfect signing, pace, amazing passing, pressing, goal-scoring. If that's a stupid decision than I really don't know.

Stupid decision would be giving 120k p/w for Mane while Lloris was top earner with 100k, not buying him

 

[SugarRay]

Normally I'd agree but there is one obvious exception to the rule - ENIC.

I can't recall their original investment but I think it was around £30m for a 29.9% stake. They then bought out Alan Sugar for around £18m, and underwrote the Preference Share issue to the tune of around £30m. Leaving them with 85% of the shares for an investment of £80m or so.

That £80m investment is now worth around £1.5billion. Not a bad return.

To be fair, Jimmy basically said a much. You make from football when you don’t spend. They’ve invested £80m and everything else has been done at no other cost, all against the club itself hasn’t it?

Great return if and when they cash it of course. It’s almost like ENIC/Tavistock know how to invest money?

 

[GutBucket]

Stupid decision would be giving 120k p/w for Mane while Lloris was top earner with 100k, not buying him

Why? That's very short-sighted and we have worse players earning more now. Mane is literally perfect for the system Poch played, he wanted him, he was fairly priced, but 20k more than what Lloris earned nullifies everything?

 

[Tottenhamboys]

People very very close to Levy have not heard anything about a takeover from Alphabet. Unless he hasn’t told anyone, I think it’s fake news.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

People very very close to Levy have not heard anything about a takeover from Alphabet. Unless he hasn’t told anyone, I think it’s fake news.

we are f**ked then

 

[Riandor]

we are f**ked then

He said fake news regarding Alphabet, not google!! ?

 

[the yid]

People very very close to Levy have not heard anything about a takeover from Alphabet. Unless he hasn’t told anyone, I think it’s fake news.

Oh for fuck sake

 

[coys200]

Sessegnon was/is one of the most highly rated young English players. 2 years ago he was ahead of Sancho foden and Hudson odoi. He was raised an age group for England while the others weren’t. Including onomah and add ons we paid £30m for a 19 year old. To dismiss his signing as nothing or on a par with Nkoudou is ridiculous. Apart from Clarke the 4 other players that have come to the club whether on loan or buys are all young quality players that were on the radars of many top clubs.