Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread - Day 3

[Cornpattbuck]

Fucking ruined my Sunday. ??‍

 

[stov]

Like I give a damn what you or anyone else on here thinks. Season ticket holder for almost 20 years so I'll trust my opinion over 99% of the posters on this site.

This thread is a joke. Bitching and moaning over a fucking rule. Typical.

Yeah, it's a dreadful rule but it was there before the game and it'll be there after the game. Lazy to point your finger at the referee, the one thing that Spurs can't control or influence.

Fact is, we had almost 20 shots on goal and scored once. We couldn't deal with has-been Andy Carroll. Dier missed an open header on goal - and fact is he's a complete liability every single game. Those are the things that Spurs can control.

But yeah, this thread is full of "fans" who want to cry into their pint over a rule and hit the spam button on any post that doesn't fit with their view. Thankfully most of those "fans" never go to a game....

lol - completely clueless.

 

[Guernman]

Huge respect to Steve Bruce for calling out this handball decision for the complete bollocks it is.

I would never want to win a game based on this rule. It simply has to be changed.

A defender cannot be expected to have his arms in the same position if he is jumping to challenge in an ariel dual versus blocking a shot with two feet on the ground.

Clubs, fans and managers need to get together to get this changed before it destroys our game. Football is entertainment, the governing bodies need to stop squeezing every last drop of enjoyment from it.

 

[bsinghd]

I really hope Jose puts out a team full of u23 players in the Carabao cup. It might be a chance of a trophy but it’s really not worth the hassle and toll on the players for a piss pot trophy and competition, and hopefully sends a message to the fat ****s who run football with a compete disregard for players health.

 

[cjbyid]

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Seems like Newcastle’s tactics after Carroll came on were not to score but keep knocking ball in box and appeal for a penalty, carroll was waving non stop. ludicrous that you no longer need to score but just go for peoples arms. Also Doherty was inside box when fouled by Lewis who was outside box. VAR just disgusts me, so much room for abuse to favor certain teams which coincidentally we’ve seen. also I thought they simplified offside where red line shows offside, a red line came up... And they didn’t even look at Lascelles hand ball, absolutely disgusted with VAR, I have zero enthusiasm left for the game as it stands.

 

[freeeki]

“Trophies aren’t worth the hassle” fuck a duck

 

[C0YS]

Like I give a damn what you or anyone else on here thinks. Season ticket holder for almost 20 years so I'll trust my opinion over 99% of the posters on this site.

This thread is a joke. Bitching and moaning over a fucking rule. Typical.

Yeah, it's a dreadful rule but it was there before the game and it'll be there after the game. Lazy to point your finger at the referee, the one thing that Spurs can't control or influence.

Fact is, we had almost 20 shots on goal and scored once. We couldn't deal with has-been Andy Carroll. Dier missed an open header on goal - and fact is he's a complete liability every single game. Those are the things that Spurs can control.

But yeah, this thread is full of "fans" who want to cry into their pint over a rule and hit the spam button on any post that doesn't fit with their view. Thankfully most of those "fans" never go to a game....

We definitely should have scored, and you can't blame the ref in this case. It's not his fault, it's the law.

But we could deal with Carroll, he did nothing, and Dier had a generally good game and had nothing to do with the penalty. All our defensive players played well, we completely controlled the game defensively. Offensively there were a few problems, we needed to be more clinical. But you somehow make a good point and then spin it as a criticism of Dier to fit your own agenda. He missed a header, should have done better and he knows it, but it's not his job to score, and these things happen, it wasn't a sitter as you make out.

 

[George94]

If only Wilson was more like Robbie Fowler.

We need to see some action from players and managers about this. Blaze pens over or wide if the decision is clearly a farce, or just literally refuse to play and boycott the season until this is dealt with. If all 20 clubs (or at least 15-16) agree to boycott then we might actually get something out of it.

I would say, if we don't all do something about it now it could cost a team on the biggest of stages, like a Champions League final...but that already happened to someone, didn't it...

 

[THFC_SWE]

Nonsense. 1-0 is enough to win any game. It’s not the teams fault that the rules are wrong.

With the current rules, it's a penalty. I think the handball rule is really stupid and that they should change it. But in the end it doesn't matter what we think about the rule. It is what it is, and until they change it, we have to live with it. What we can do is being more clinical.

 

[stonebrow]

New tactic - don't bother to try and score from open play, just kick it an opponents arm in their penalty box.

There will be some shithouse managers that will promote that tactic as well!

 

[tommo84]

The words of Hodgson and Bruce are encouraging but the only people who will influence change are those who control the finances - and that’s fans and broadcasters (currently fans via broadcasters). Nothing changes unless fans mobilise and stop funding this bullshit.

 

[Wizzy77]

This is an shocking shocking and RIDICULOUS decision.

 

[Serpico]

It was simple errors that needed to be corrected. VAR has taken over and created areas in the game that didn't need a judgment call. Its given the refs a broader span to influence games. The Euro games are going to be interesting this year when English clubs meet the big boys form Europe and we have the upper hand. Enter stage left- VAR, penalty-English club out. Corrupt as Ive ever seen corrupt could be.

 

[lennon180]

The best way I can sum it up so that people understand is that I had a horrible feeling that we'd get sucker punched, not by Newcastle, they were shit. I had a horrible feeling that they'd be a bad decision.

As a fan, player, coach or whoever, you should NOT go into a game of football feeling like that.

I said to my brother I was gonna make a bet about us conceding a penalty with a shitty decision. I didn’t make that bet because I didn’t want to jinx it. I just feel it’s unfair to say the team could have done this or that when we were winning and in control. We didn’t score more that’s fair. To call us out when we drew with a shit decision is not fair in my opinion. We did enough to take 3 points. The rules fucked us. Not the missed chances.

 

[George94]

There will be some shithouse managers that will promote that tactic as well!

If we're going to implement this ridiculous rule and lose points because of it - then that's how every team in the league should play.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

If Sonny has picked up an injury , we all know how the story goes , Harry will turn his ankle followed by either Lucas or Stevie getting injured, with Spurs there is hardly ever a Happy Ending. Still there is always Gareth to looked forward to.

 

[rez9000]

You can't - but (and this is simple stuff) there is much less chance of two crazy bad decisions than one. We had one last week, but it didn't matter because the game was out of sight. Nonsense, or basic, simple stuff?

You can't legislate for bad decisions. There's no grey area there. I say it again. Let's say we scored 2 or 7 or 20. If the possibility exists that a referee can bring about something you can't control, it doesn't matter how many you score.

Essentially, what you're saying is that we are responsible because we failed to score enough goals to make up for the possible negative outcome that would come about through the implementation of an awful, totally unfit-for-purpose rule. I'm pretty sure that's the very essence of nonsense.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Bullshit rule. The fact it went against us makes me so fucking mad, but even if we take it out of context. Say player x heads the ball and it hits player y on the arm. Player y’s arm is away from his body, but he’s jumping (you have to use your arms), and he’s been pushed so has to use his arms to brace a fall or balance himself. Not only that, the ball hits player y’s arm from less than a yard away, and player y has his back turned to everything and doesn’t see the ball at all. Fucking bullshit rule that should be abolished right now, games gone, and every single close match is liable to have this absolutely fucking garbage rule affect a match. DIER CAN DO NOTHING. That alone should make the rule obviously stupid as fuck. Can’t jump with your arms anymore. Can’t run with your arms anymore. Games fucking gone. Fuck this shit.

Totally agree, I was willing to give VAR a chance but it's creating more problems than it's solved. People can say it's the hand ball rule rather than VAR but as long as there is VAR everything will be analysed to the smallest detail which is where it ruins the enjoyment.

Same goes for offside where they're measuring down to the millimetre. The rules need to be changed immediately or VAR scrapped until they can come up with a better system.

 

[stov]

With the current rules, it's a penalty. I think the handball rule is really stupid and that they should change it. But in the end it doesn't matter what we think about the rule. It is what it is, and until they change it, we have to live with it. What we can do is being more clinical.

but the rule wasn't actually enforced correctly - see various posts above on why. The ref got it wrong, VAR got it wrong (it was offside).