Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread - Day 3

[limmel]

I think that's the hardest I've seen Spurs fucked over. Lasagne gate, Mendes goal, the time a linesman disallowed a goal against us because the defender was playing the striker onside by such a margin the lino didn't even see him.

Nah, the worst was Vertonghen clearly receiving the ball in our half, going on to score and being given offside.

 

[hughy]

Nah, the worst was Vertonghen clearly receiving the ball in our half, going on to score and being given offside.

Ahh yes, the game Vertonghen had 2 goals stolen from him.

 

[AllSeeingEye]

the one that's inline with the pitch markin

Christ that gets more embarrassing every time you look at it. It's more embarrassing than the penalty - which is a stupid rule not a stupid interpretation. Refs had a massive howler there.

I know right?

 

[Gassin's finest]

Remember last season:

 

[RikkiRocket]

You can like or dislike Steve Bruce, Roy Hodgson and/or even Jan Verthongen. But that trio knows probably more about professional football than all of us SCers combined. And to those of you defending the referee’s decision, VAR, etc.: you honestly believe this has anything to do with principal ideas of the game? Honestly? And you are right, but three professionals with a combined 100 years of experience as professionals in the game are wrong?
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can we find out more about Charlotte?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Match day morning, sunlight kissing the pitch a little more with every passing minute. Autumn mist slowly ascending, dew still glistening on each green needle, every one standing upright in anticipation of the impending battle. From the tenebrous hallway that leads to the barracks emerges a ashen haired figure, wafting towards the arena, indistinguishably murmuring in a Galician timbre. He stares at the magnificent galliform guarding the gantry and, puffing his chest out, roars ‘today, we are intelligent ****s’.

And so, it transpired that the ashen haired figure and his troops, without transgressing in any way, were ultimately outdone by most masterfully ****y **** of all, a smooth scalped enigma behind an Ozian curtain by name of Michael Percival Dean, and his puppet Peter Lucien Bankes.

 

[taidgh]

Carroll is offside, it's clear as day

Fucking hell, that's even more annoying looking at that graphic.

Carroll is clearly offside. Corrupt fucks.

How are you judging he's offside? And just to preempt you, Carroll's arm doesn't count for judging offside. It has to be a part of the body you can legally play the ball with (head, foot, shoulder, etc.)

 

[Marauder]

Looks level to me.

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Look! The guy's whole arm and head are over the line! How is that not offside??! Have the rules changed again? That last season is a 1000% offside!

 

[Beni]

How are you judging he's offside? And just to preempt you, Carroll's arm doesn't count for judging offside. It has to be a part of the body you can legally play the ball with (head, foot, shoulder, etc.)

The blue line is where our last mans position is. The blue line goes half way through Carroll’s Head. So he is half a head offside.

 

[Waiwonder]

I think its the lack of clarity regarding the rules at present.

People may say the refs are following the rules but to have ball to hand from less than a yard away, back turned as well is clearly in conflict with the rules where its deemed not a handball if a player has no time to react via a ricochet or deflection or whether the player can't see the ball.

Its this area that is frustrating everybody. Too much has gone into the 'Arms out of their natural body silhoutte position' and not enough through common sense and logic.

 

[tiger666]

The blue line is where our last mans position is. The blue line goes half way through Carroll’s Head. So he is half a head offside.

Blue line isn't what they're looking at, it's the yellow line.

 

[UbeAstard]

This handball decision process will go away, it wont survive the game. Who are the people that agreed the process? Their names should forever be remembered for the damage they have done to the game whatever else they have done.

 

[SheffieldAndy]

Blue line isn't what they're looking at, it's the yellow line.

The yellow line is matched on Dier’s forearm in the pic though (which he can’t play the ball with), and is in line with Carroll’s shirt sleeve (which he can play the ball with).

 

[Mr Pink]

How are you judging he's offside? And just to preempt you, Carroll's arm doesn't count for judging offside. It has to be a part of the body you can legally play the ball with (head, foot, shoulder, etc.)

Head

 

[Beni]

Blue line isn't what they're looking at, it's the yellow line.

The yellow line doesn’t match upto Davies or Dier, the blue line does. Only thing yellow line lines upto which is Carroll’s arm which would be incorrect

 

[tiger666]

The yellow line doesn’t match upto Davies or Dier, the blue line does. Only thing yellow line lines upto which is Carroll’s arm which would be incorrect

Here's another shot.

 

[taidgh]

Head

His head is behind Dier's arse/Doherty's shoulder. Level at worst. Definitely not beyond.

 

[Mr Pink]

His head is behind Dier's arse/Doherty's shoulder. Level at worst. Definitely not beyond.

Nope it's in front.

 

[Beni]

Looks like another flimsy last paragraph of the rule.

Leeway is given if there are ricochets and and if the player can’t see the ball? So is that a law or upto the referee if they’re feeling generous on the day, who it’s happened against and whether they want to be lenient or not . It’s just crazy

 

[taidgh]

Nope it's in front.

I've seen the pictures posted on here. Grainy, unfocused shots of screen grabs. If you have something better, please do share, but from what I see, there's no way you can definitively say Carroll's head is in front.