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Match Threads Spurs vs LASK - Match Thread - Europa League - Round 1

Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 143 96.0%
  • Spurs Lost

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    149
  • Poll closed .

Rosco1984

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Aug 31, 2012
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Vinicius has done more in 85 mins than Llorente managed in his whole Spurs career. Even Janssen was better for us because he at least worked hard and put himself about a bit. I'll no doubt get comments and disagrees or bollocks like 'we didn't play to his strengths' but the simple facts are half the time he was never arsed to make the runs and he was never aggressive enough to use his size properly. He had one good half against Ajax and I can't think of any other outstanding performance.

Only game i've seen of Vinicius and we're none the wiser about his finishing but I was very impressed at how keen he was, how he was using his size properly and was constantly making runs. I think we may have finally broken the backup striker curse.

Hmmm Im pretty sure we never make the champions league final without LLorente vs City.
 

freeeki

Arsehole.
Aug 5, 2008
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69,426
Vinicius has done more in 85 mins than Llorente managed in his whole Spurs career. Even Janssen was better for us because he at least worked hard and put himself about a bit. I'll no doubt get comments and disagrees or bollocks like 'we didn't play to his strengths' but the simple facts are half the time he was never arsed to make the runs and he was never aggressive enough to use his size properly. He had one good half against Ajax and I can't think of any other outstanding performance.

Only game i've seen of Vinicius and we're none the wiser about his finishing but I was very impressed at how keen he was, how he was using his size properly and was constantly making runs. I think we may have finally broken the backup striker curse.

It was a great debut but this is absurd revisionism.

Llorente got us through to the UCL semi-final, and scored a few crucial goals for us elsewhere like the late winner for 3 points against Watford.

Nando wasn’t exactly prolific for us but seriously, let’s give the guy some respect. We don’t need to put Llorente down to highlight how good Vinicius was today.
 

rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
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Jose seems to want to invert him, whereas all the footage I saw of him at Leeds was as a traditional winger on the right.
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King of Otters

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Jun 11, 2012
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Feel a lot safer with Davies at LCB than I do with Dier. Granted it’s against weaker opposition but Davies is a steady presence when he’s played. Interesting to see what Jose does, as it’s clear Reggie is our best LB by a mile.

He’s definitely got potential at CB, particularly as left footed CBs are pretty thin on the ground these days.

Probably a couple of inches shorter than you’d like, but then he’s not exactly short either.

I guess it’s just a question of how difficult it is to step into that role when it’s not a position you’ve ever really played at club level.
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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It was a great debut but this is absurd revisionism.

Llorente got us through to the UCL semi-final, and scored a few crucial goals for us elsewhere like the late winner for 3 points against Watford.

Nando wasn’t exactly prolific for us but seriously, let’s give the guy some respect. We don’t need to put Llorente down to highlight how good Vinicius was today.

Agreed. I really couldn't stand Llorente at times, but he definitely had his contributions still. Would be very disrespectful to completely disregard that.
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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just watched the first half replay. There was a point when the ref pushed his finger into Hojbjerg's chest in warning - kind of aggressive. Is the ref allowed to do stuff like that?
 

spurslenny

I hate football
Nov 24, 2006
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I hate that I'm going to dig out one of our players off the back of a 3-0 win, but im afraid I'm going to have to.

Last nights game should have been an opportunity for Harry Winks to show why he thinks he could still be a valuable member of this squad.

For me, he didnt.

Instead of showing that he can (along side Hoijberg) control the midfeild against an inferior team, he spent most of the first half hacking down opposition players around our penalty box and giving needless free kicks away.
It feels to me like over trying, in the same way Joe Hart previously did for City and England (Joe seems to have calmed with age and since he's been with us, by the way).

The other comparison id make, is that Winks reminds me a bit of Walcot at the same age.
Both clearly have talent to get to the level they have, but they haven't had that 'penny drop' moment (maybe never will), that they have all the physical attributes to improve, but not the footballing brain.

This is not me hating on Winks. I just think he's out of his depth and hasn't improved as we would have liked. If anything , pro rata, he's worse than he was a few years ago.
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
31,842
56,935
This five sub rule will really benefit us in the EL this season. Is it going to carry all the way through to the final?
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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The BBC write up called Davies' lovely inch perfect ball forward to Vinicious to set up the first goal as a long punt!
?
 

Serpico

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Dec 30, 2019
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Good start to the campaign-. Results in PL at home aside, overall looking good.
For me, we need to ingrain...Positiveness, confidence and balls which are needed to succeed.
The players are good enough, the coach is seasoned, the club is hungry for success and the support is there- we just need to turn that invisible corner?
 

Rosco1984

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Aug 31, 2012
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I hate that I'm going to dig out one of our players off the back of a 3-0 win, but im afraid I'm going to have to.

Last nights game should have been an opportunity for Harry Winks to show why he thinks he could still be a valuable member of this squad.

For me, he didnt.

Instead of showing that he can (along side Hoijberg) control the midfeild against an inferior team, he spent most of the first half hacking down opposition players around our penalty box and giving needless free kicks away.
It feels to me like over trying, in the same way Joe Hart previously did for City and England (Joe seems to have calmed with age and since he's been with us, by the way).

The other comparison id make, is that Winks reminds me a bit of Walcot at the same age.
Both clearly have talent to get to the level they have, but they haven't had that 'penny drop' moment (maybe never will), that they have all the physical attributes to improve, but not the footballing brain.

This is not me hating on Winks. I just think he's out of his depth and hasn't improved as we would have liked. If anything , pro rata, he's worse than he was a few years ago.

So in a game where he passed forward and played well moved the ball quickly your finding another way to single him out sounds like hating to me. Winks is not Ndombele or Lo Celso but he is English, He is Spurs through and through and he has a lot of potential as well as having played in some truly memorable wins for spurs and England not many players in world football can say they have won away against Spain or against the repeat European champions and seriously at that time bossed the midfield. I think he is lacking confidence because he had to carry a midfield and try and be something he isn't for 2-3 seasons and all I am sure he will have heard about on social media is the fan base he is a part of his whole life bashing him at every given opportunity get off his back and support him he's a spurs player and a spurs fan show him some love and i'm sure he will come good as part of the squad now he is under less pressure.
 

slartibartfast

Grunge baby forever
Oct 21, 2012
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So pleasant, isn't it?
Pleasant when theres nothing contentious, yes.
If we got knocked out for a 3ft offside goal or a ridiculous penalty I'm not sure you'd be describing it as pleasent (the penalties at present from VAR aren't due to VAR but the idiotic law change. Most VAR other VAR issues are down to the piss poor implementation of it rather than the concept but wrong thread for this debate).
Did I just defend VAR? I've sick in my mouth.
 
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