Match Threads Spurs vs Galatasaray

[The Apprentice]

No point getting too upset but jeez that was the most one sided 3-2 you’ll ever watch. They should have absolutely tickled our belly.

Quite liked watching us with Biss, Sarr and Benters all together. An actual midfield.

Worryingly, Big Dave looked more comfortable on the ball than Dragusin. This system needs ball playing CBs to function. Watching Davies, Radu and Fraser playing triangles was killing me.

Roll on Ipswich.

 

[1882andallthat]

That’s the hardest away fixture out the way and coming away 3-2 is a credit not an embarrassment

Coming away with a 3-2 result was in many ways lucky during the first three quarters of the game. We showed some spirit in trying to get a draw in the end but for me the most embarrassing thing about tonight was our passing and decision making when under no pressure, it was poor, very poor.

The only positive thing is that not too much damage has been done in the overall aim of qualifying without having to go into the play offs and on the face of it, fingers crossed it doesn’t look like more injuries have been picked up.

 

[Mark_147]

I’ve always said this Dragusin not up to it, lacks technique and anticipation

Did he lack technique and anticipation against man city or Aston villa. He's 22 and made about 7 starts, and still learning his trade.

 

[Mark_147]

Hate Turkish teams

What about kebabs

 

[Japhet]

We were a good yard off the pace and weak in the tackle for the first half. Passing was sloppy and wasteful and we coughed up possession over and over. Playing out from the back was nerve jangling. Only when Bentancur came on did we get any sort of grip, but in fairness to those who went off, Galatasaray were tiring by then and by the end they were hanging on. I'm OK with it as long as we take the points v Ipswich.

 

[philll]

 

[easley91]

Just landed and saw the score. What happened? Were we poor? Was it two yellows?

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Just landed and saw the score. What happened? Were we poor? Was it two yellows?

We lost; Yes; Easily.

 

[robotsonic]

Of the poor performances this season I definitely care about this, and will read into this the least. Going to play in such a charged atmosphere isn't easy at the best of times. They are a good side too with some very good players, a couple of whom we'd take in our own 11. We played some very young players that would not be accustomed that that environment whatsoever in another big change of personnel and are struggling with injuries all over the place now and are playing 2 games a week on the reg.

Far rather we lost this and beat Ipswich than the other way around as barring an absolute disaster, in which we wouldn't have earned it anyway, we should and will easily progress in the Europa despite this.

 

[rossdapep]

Don't play both Maddison and Bergvall in the middle together for that game, rest Maddison or play him on the left. We have Sarr, Bentacur, Bissouma, Kulu and Madders to rotate through the midfield 3 positions.

If you do play them and it's looking like a disaster, change it. Just don't take the wrong players off, which he very much did. Neither Johnson or Son would have been exhausted playing another 20-25 mins after a break at half time. Or at least leave one of them on so we have some pace and width on a wide open pitch against a team that looks like conceding every time we miraculously go forward.

At the back we didn't have much choice. Just don't put them under unnecessary pressure with a flimsy spine to the team.

I love Ange but again I really don't see why this stuff is controversial.



He played most of our best players anyway and we ended up with an unnecessarily exhausting match. It's not like Bentacur, Kulu and Solanke were chilling out in a Turkish all inclusive for the trip.

Son needs to be managed because of his last injury as Ange explained last weekend.

Odobert, Moore and Werner are all injured, if either of Johnson or Son go down we are screwed for the foreseeable games.

Regarding the midfielders. They work incredibly hard for 60 plus minutes and need managing too

 

[easley91]

Still haven't seen any highlights yet so just going off the XI but there's enough games in this league phase left for us to still qualify. We have injuries mostly at CB and on LW and Udogie needed a rest BADLY.

Can't blame Ange for trying to manage the squad and give some players minutes and others rest where he can.

 

[Pistols At Dawn]

Not pretty watching at all -- but truth is, we didn't play to our usual standards, regardless of the lineup.

On our game, we smash that lot.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Totally agree... but we have to win on sunday... especially after the game tonight.

We need to win on Sunday regardless of the results of this game

 

[dude573]

In the grand scheme of things most of the English clubs in Europe are having shaky results at the moment. A mixture of big injuries and fatigue from the ridiculous amount of games they're being asked to play.

 

[FloridaSpur]

Your post is contradictory in the second sentence. “Considering our injury list” “stupid to start kids”.

What else could he have done? Play the first team so they get tired for a very important game on Sunday?

What he could have done was sell sicknote last Summer, that would had been a start.

Villa faced us with "rested" players by the way. How did resting players against us work out for City at Bournemouth?

Playing inexperienced players away, in a hostile atmosphere against a very good side was always going to end this way. The resting of players in early rounds has cost us dearly in the past in the FA/Carabao over the years, and now in the EL.

One extra game this week for players isn't going to put next Sunday's result in doubt. If we cannot get a result at home against a team yet to win a game then we are in deep shite moving forward.

 

[DenverSpur]

Always a tough place to go to. With a depleted squad against a good experienced squad, going a goal down early to a worldie and playing with 10 men for the last 30 minutes+ 3-2 is a respectable, if disappointing result.

I thought we were guilty of some really poor passing both coming out of defense which put us under unnecessary pressure and up front which led to some promising attacks breaking down.

I felt sorry for Lankshear over the red card who battled well up front and took his goal well. The second yellow showed a complete lack of common sense from the Referee, who overall I didn’t think had a bad game. He’s a young lad starting for first time in a big European fixture at a hostile venue so giving him a second yellow card when he’s just genuinely battling to win the ball is just beyond petty. He compounds it by giving Bissouma a yellow for rightly pointing that out. A talking to, telling him to calm down would have been the much more sensible course of action. It’s quite depressing actually that so many referees don’t understand the human emotional element of events in games.

 

[coys63]

I'm sure Kulu and everyone is feeling very rested after that.

Kulu, Solanke, Johnson, Madders, Bentacour, Sarr, Son....... yeah, I'm sure they are too as they only played 45 minutes at most so I don't get your point

 

[taidgh]

We lost; Yes; Easily.

First one wasn't a yellow. Gala player feigned being hit in the face and the referee guessed at it.

 

[Japhet]

First one wasn't a yellow. Gala player feigned being hit in the face and the referee guessed at it.

The Gala player bought the second one too by sticking his foot out to make sure there was contact. Seems wrong to me that a player can initiate contact and the other one gets booked but that's the way it is now so it was rash from Lankshear.

 

[worcestersauce]

Upon reflection it's clear fans haven't got their heads around the new format at all.
If we'd come away from Galatasaray with that result in the old group stage we'd be thinking 2 away goals so not so bad and we'd know if we win our home games we're comfortable. I think the same goes now, this is not the league, we don't need to win every game home and away, think of it as a series of two leg ties just with different teams in each leg.
The idea of this format is to avoid "dead rubbers" which will pay off over the next three games but further down and not where we are sitting, I was sceptical at first but I actually think it might work.