Match Threads Spurs vs Fulham

[homer hotspur]

Comparing them with extremes like that is daft and if you want to mention Gerard, what about Sol Campbell? But, I'm not talking about that sort of stuff, just that lazy booing at the end of any match like today irrespective of circumstances. And don't get me started on the booing of individual players who are not in favour. It's been going on for decades. I've been going to matches for 50 years but the rather entitled ' we expected to win this match' type of booing is now becoming predictable rather than just the odd poor performance as in the past.

 

[Cambridge Spur]

Comparing them with extremes like that is daft and if you want to mention Gerard, what about Sol Campbell? But, I'm not talking about that sort of stuff, just that lazy booing at the end of any match like today irrespective of circumstances. And don't get me started on the booing of individual players who are not in favour. It's been going on for decades. I've been going to matches for 50 years but the rather entitled ' we expected to win this match' type of booing is now becoming predictable rather than just the odd poor performance as in the past.

Maybe. I just think as a club we are soft as shit, hence the constant ‘Spursy’ or ‘Dr Tottenham’ quotes.

It’s too easy at Spurs, say what you like about Conte or Mourinho but they were spot on about the players at our club.

 

[DenverSpur]

League in 62-63. How we didn’t win that I don’t know.

I hear you. Same could be said for 15-16.
A winning mentality is just not part of the culture of the club. Clubs like Arsenal, ManU and Liverpool even when they have relatively poor teams still manage to pick up trophies. It’s got little to do with who the owners/managers are or money spent and everything to do with the mentality and desire of the club as whole. Without getting into a Levy/ENIC bashing unfortunately our present ownership, like many before them, do not demonstrate a overwhelming desire to be winners which permeates throughout all levels of the club

 

[PCozzie]

Just seen Brennan Johnson's goal, great ball from Werner and well finished.

The thing that struck me: we just took the lead breaking the deadlock, at home, and there was so little joy in the celebration. Brennan looked pissed off, Maddison looked angry. Werner gave Johnson a half hearted hug, and Son just looked relieved. Bissouma wandered over and looked a bit confused.

I don't know who's feeding off of who, but the fans and players seem so discontented.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Sorry lads, but in general finding it all a bit too Redknapp at the moment (and I used to argue the toss about the ceiling for that football, back in the day). You get some good days, whenever it really comes off it is spectacular, but with this way there will be too many blips and self inflicted nonsense to ultimately go anywhere.

The reality is we’re going life and death with far too many teams. Any team who wants to be taken seriously is not engaged in some wide-open helter-skelter lottery with the likes of FC Carrier Bag from the Farmers League. Or clinging on struggling to repel wave after wave of attack from a lower half Championship team. It’s no wonder PL form (and performance) is then such a rollercoaster, you simply can’t fly by the seat of your pants so much.

Injuries and exhaustion might be valid concerns, but this style also does not help on that front – with such back and forth and pinball type football our players do a lot of headless chicken dashing about to try and scramble back to cover, and there is definitely a case to be made about our exertions being smarter and calmer, rather than running further and faster.

There is the nucleus of good ideas with this style of play. We’ve all seen it in some of the games/wins, and the stats back that up in a lot of aspects. However we’ve got to find some semblance of structure and control on proceedings. Too much end-to-end bollocks for my liking.

In general I think fatigue is playing a big part in our lack of control. But I agree with mostly with what you say here - It's more Redknapp then Poch for sure.

 

[DenverSpur]

Sorry lads, but in general finding it all a bit too Redknapp at the moment (and I used to argue the toss about the ceiling for that football, back in the day). You get some good days, whenever it really comes off it is spectacular, but with this way there will be too many blips and self inflicted nonsense to ultimately go anywhere.

The reality is we’re going life and death with far too many teams. Any team who wants to be taken seriously is not engaged in some wide-open helter-skelter lottery with the likes of FC Carrier Bag from the Farmers League. Or clinging on struggling to repel wave after wave of attack from a lower half Championship team. It’s no wonder PL form (and performance) is then such a rollercoaster, you simply can’t fly by the seat of your pants so much.

Injuries and exhaustion might be valid concerns, but this style also does not help on that front – with such back and forth and pinball type football our players do a lot of headless chicken dashing about to try and scramble back to cover, and there is definitely a case to be made about our exertions being smarter and calmer, rather than running further and faster.

There is the nucleus of good ideas with this style of play. We’ve all seen it in some of the games/wins, and the stats back that up in a lot of aspects. However we’ve got to find some semblance of structure and control on proceedings. Too much end-to-end bollocks for my liking.

The truth is that this style of play is almost the template of who Tottenham have become over the last 50 years. Brilliant one game, mediocre another. The players that most fans like the most are exactly like that; world beaters one game and invisible for most other games. We buy players who are mercurial rather than consistent dependable players with character, who are also skillful.

 

[homer hotspur]

Just seen Brennan Johnson's goal, great ball from Werner and well finished.

The thing that struck me: we just took the lead breaking the deadlock, at home, and there was so little joy in the celebration. Brennan looked pissed off, Maddison looked angry. Werner gave Johnson a half hearted hug, and Son just looked relieved. Bissouma wandered over and looked a bit confused.

I don't know who's feeding off of who, but the fans and players seem so discontented.

Yes, it was very obvious and disappointing to see after the scenes at city only last week

 

[Real_madyidd]

And I love that....

Edit. That it's like redknapps time

 

[DiamondLites]

Just seen Brennan Johnson's goal, great ball from Werner and well finished.

The thing that struck me: we just took the lead breaking the deadlock, at home, and there was so little joy in the celebration. Brennan looked pissed off, Maddison looked angry. Werner gave Johnson a half hearted hug, and Son just looked relieved. Bissouma wandered over and looked a bit confused.

I don't know who's feeding off of who, but the fans and players seem so discontented.

Probably pissed off with the miserable bastards in the stands, probably hoped there would be a positive atmosphere given we just stuffed the champions away from home in the last league match but instead they’re playing in a morgue. I’d be going full Ron Artest if I was one of them

 

[Mark_147]

Johnson scored a fantastic goal that needed good technique, but apart from that he was a passenger to me. I don't see why we couldn't have tried something different with 30-20 minutes to go, put Kulu in there, or Sonny out right or left with Timo there and our debutant in the middle, or Spence there or Spence behind Porro. Anything but a passenger for 94 minutes.

Sons a passenger who's not taking his chances, but let's take off the top goal scorer who's a passenger too.

 

[G Ron]

Probably pissed off with the miserable bastards in the stands, probably hoped there would be a positive atmosphere given we just stuffed the champions away from home in the last league match but instead they’re playing in a morgue. I’d be going full Ron Artest if I was one of them

Fans will always react to what’s going on in front of them on the pitch unless it’s a big derby game. We were piss fucking poor so no surprise the atmosphere was poor. I was bored shitless watching us not being able to string three passes together to be honest

 

[Cambridge Spur]

Yes, it was very obvious and disappointing to see after the scenes at city only last week

I’m seeing this sort of thing creep in more and more. To be honest I’ve got mixed feelings, I was at the City game and the players love all the attention and lap it up with the fans when things are going well.

I’m sure living in the world of social media makes them feel like kings and they probably crave the attention but on the flip side they probably take things too seriously when it isn’t so positive.

I actually didn’t like Johnson’s reaction to the goal, he often acts this way. I can moan with the best of them on an internet forum but I never abuse players at the stadium or online so it definitely creates a divide because not all fans are the same.

 

[DenverSpur]

Despite the disappointment of today’s result and recent performances it has to be pointed out that we are only 5 points behind second place. With the exception of Liverpool everybody is having a topsy turvy season being unable to get any consistency. We’re only one third of the into the season. There is a long way to go yet so doom and glom about being a mid table team is still a little premature.

 

[YB123]

Little bit of perspective folks.

Our whole core was out for this one. No keeper, Centre backs, best defensive midfielder & Striker.

Managers are always worthy of criticism, Ange is no different.

But lets not do this usual point the finger at the manager when he has half his team available and no options from the bench to impact the game. That blame should be with Mr Levy who will ALWAYS leave us short. Squad depth was a concern for many of us in summer, low and behold we are being proved right.

 

[Romulus]

A few boos might upset them?! Sorry but we’re the softest, most forgiving fans around. They don’t know what pressure is!

which is why they cant handle it

 

[YB123]

You’ve obviously lived a very sheltered life!

See what the fans do to their players in Italy or Spain! Liverpool gangs threatened to kill Gerrard when he wanted to go to Chelsea!

The worst you get at Spurs is a few tuts and boos at the full time whistle!

Liverpool didnt stand for the Hikcs Gillett era, Newcastle got their way with Ashley, Man United fans are seeing some breakthrough with the Glazers. Even the gooners put heaps of pressure on Stan Kroenke.

Our fanbase is soft and limp.

There will be protests for ENIC out with about 10/20 people, yet there are so many who want them gone.

A very lay fanbase unfortunately.

A few boos is normal for a top team wanting to compete and wanting more but there needs to be much more action.

 

[chas vs dave]

In the 1st half fulham played smith-rowe and raul up top and shut off the passing lane to biss.

They were quite willing to alllow the cbs to pass out, knowing they arent the best passers.

 

[RuskyM]

Maybe. I just think as a club we are soft as shit, hence the constant ‘Spursy’ or ‘Dr Tottenham’ quotes.

It’s too easy at Spurs, say what you like about Conte or Mourinho but they were spot on about the players at our club.

We have had a complete overhaul of players since those two were here - like only Davies is still there from the Zagreb defeat. More than half the squad from the Southampton draw have gone. It's such a lazy take. They can't *all* be the problem.

 

[Stamford]

We have had a complete overhaul of players since those two were here - like only Davies is still there from the Zagreb defeat. More than half the squad from the Southampton draw have gone. It's such a lazy take. They can't *all* be the problem.

The squad is good enough for 5-8th which is where they will finish this season. When you finish in those positions you are naturally inconsistent, dropping silly points at home and away. That is simply due to the squad not being good enough across all three of those managers. When you buy average players or hope that young players develop into great players while they're surrounded by older players that aren't really leaders thats what happens.

When you see it across multiple managers its a bigger issue. Buy better and you will see better results. It also makes it easier to then blood the likes of Moore when they walk into a more stable environment.

 

[Mooger Fooger]

We have had a complete overhaul of players since those two were here - like only Davies is still there from the Zagreb defeat. More than half the squad from the Southampton draw have gone. It's such a lazy take. They can't *all* be the problem.

Culture starts from the top.