Match Threads Spurs vs Fulham

[Krafty]

Real tough watch today. Fulham were the better team, and looked to have a much more effective plan than us.

I really get worried with how easily our full backs get dragged high and wide, leaving people to run into vacant space down the sides of our centre backs. As a centre back that would give me kittens

the amount of injuries and absences is undoubtedly playing a part, but I wonder at what point would an untested but square peg in square hole option be better than playing the likes of Sonny upfront, Werner against a deep back line, Sarr and Bissouma when we need more a bit more guile, thrust and creativity in midfield.

Maybe not from the start, but would someone like Lankshear have been a better option upfront than Son, with Deli going into midfield?

 

[mpickard2087]

Sorry lads, but in general finding it all a bit too Redknapp at the moment (and I used to argue the toss about the ceiling for that football, back in the day). You get some good days, whenever it really comes off it is spectacular, but with this way there will be too many blips and self inflicted nonsense to ultimately go anywhere.

The reality is we’re going life and death with far too many teams. Any team who wants to be taken seriously is not engaged in some wide-open helter-skelter lottery with the likes of FC Carrier Bag from the Farmers League. Or clinging on struggling to repel wave after wave of attack from a lower half Championship team. It’s no wonder PL form (and performance) is then such a rollercoaster, you simply can’t fly by the seat of your pants so much.

Injuries and exhaustion might be valid concerns, but this style also does not help on that front – with such back and forth and pinball type football our players do a lot of headless chicken dashing about to try and scramble back to cover, and there is definitely a case to be made about our exertions being smarter and calmer, rather than running further and faster.

There is the nucleus of good ideas with this style of play. We’ve all seen it in some of the games/wins, and the stats back that up in a lot of aspects. However we’ve got to find some semblance of structure and control on proceedings. Too much end-to-end bollocks for my liking.

 

[Mark_147]

In the week Bissouma, Maddison, Werner, Udogie, I mean DJ isn't even in the EL squad!

When the better squad players do not start, you get results like today, and on Thursday.

All of the first 3 came off the bench in midweek, and Udogie has been run into the ground this season. Irrespective of the minutes they played in midweek they are playing too many minutes this season because of being brought on in games like this.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

The subs were warming up constantly?

Wow how we all see things differently. We must have blinkered vision in the South Stand

 

[thebenjamin]

Wow how we all see things differently. We must have blinkered vision in the South Stand

i sit in the lower west so if I'm wrong I really do need to go to Specsavers

 

[Rob]

Wow how we all see things differently. We must have blinkered vision in the South Stand

We were in south stand too and the subs were warming up for ages…

 

[specspurs]

i sit in the lower west so if I'm wrong I really do need to go to Specsavers

I wouldn't go there mate, trust me, I know.

 

[Terry & Terry]

That’s the difference between teams who win things, especially titles, and the also eans. Most players/ teams are up for the big games because of the buzz in the air in the lead up. It’s the other games that sort out the men from the boys. Winning teams and players force and train themselves to be up for those games that lack that buzz and excitement. It’s that consistency of performance that wins you things. Unfortunately we have always traditionally been a team with players that have flashes of brilliance for some games followed by games of mediocre performances. No manager we’ve had since Bill Nicholson, really, has managed to crack this dilemma and it could be argued even he should have managed to win more trophies than he did.

League in 62-63. How we didn’t win that I don’t know.

 

[FrankSpencer]

Although I think Ange could have done more with the available squad today, I am getting exasperated by our home crowd instantly booing anything other than a win. These players are out on their feet and clearly giving their all in a very demanding system against highly competitive teams who , more often than not, have had more rest between games.I noticed Johnson's lack of joy when he scored which I presume was due to some previous groaning. I don't know what these people think they are achieving but it's always been the same.

I think most people are just exasperated with watching ‘Also-ran Hotspur’!! After 16 years of attrition, whilst I don’t agree with the boos, you can understand the frustrations all things considered.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

i sit in the lower west so if I'm wrong I really do need to go to Specsavers

So do two of my mates. He was moaning to me about the lack of activity and said the crowd around them was shouting at the bench why with 80 minutes gone nobody was warming up.

 

[UbeAstard]

...and not signing first team ready-to-go players that fit Ange's system to replace.

But they are working on it and they don't want to just sign players that are available but not suitable, or maybe its easy as those 'first team ready-to-go' you mention are happy to sit on the bench?

 

[UbeAstard]

Johnson scored a fantastic goal that needed good technique, but apart from that he was a passenger to me. I don't see why we couldn't have tried something different with 30-20 minutes to go, put Kulu in there, or Sonny out right or left with Timo there and our debutant in the middle, or Spence there or Spence behind Porro. Anything but a passenger for 94 minutes.

 

[UbeAstard]

Maybe not from the start, but would someone like Lankshear have been a better option upfront than Son, with Deli going into midfield?

Ah the Deli of 5 years ago? But the new one isn't so effective and isn't a Spurs player anymore

 

[Krafty]

Ah the Deli of 5 years ago? But the new one isn't so effective and isn't a Spurs player anymore

Bloody autocorrect.

although now you mention it, not such a bad idea….

 

[homer hotspur]

I think most people are just exasperated with watching ‘Also-ran Hotspur’!! After 16 years of attrition, whilst I don’t agree with the boos, you can understand the frustrations all things considered.

Booing at every home game we don't win is pretty embarrassing though and serves no purpose other than to alienate the players.

 

[rossdapep]

adapt to what? They’re all knackered and have to keep playing. Drop back, play on the counter? Doesn’t make a difference, they’ll just concede

Exactly.

It takes a huge amount of concentration to sit back and play that way.

And if you concede first you have to adapt and leave yourself more exposed.

Better to try take the game away from the opposition and get in front. Which had Sonny put away either of those early chances we may have been able to manage the game better.

Unfortunately we didn't get in front and it was obvious players started to tire.

Everyone always seems to suggest an alternative way to playing or approaching something when in reality there's a reason why we don't do it like that.

I mean we sat deeper under both Conte and Jose and still sucked at it a lot of the time.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Spurs drop a point so the same tiresome catastrophising and post mortem begin ffs

Whilst I don’t agree with some of the comments, your statement acts like we’re in flying form. When in reality we’ve won 1 of our last 5 games …

 

[Cambridge Spur]

Booing at every home game we don't win is pretty embarrassing though and serves no purpose other than to alienate the players.

A few boos might upset them?! Sorry but we’re the softest, most forgiving fans around. They don’t know what pressure is!

 

[homer hotspur]

softest, most forgiving.? I would have spat my tea out if I had been drinking some!

 

[Cambridge Spur]

softest, most forgiving.? I would have spat my tea out if I had been drinking some!

You’ve obviously lived a very sheltered life!

See what the fans do to their players in Italy or Spain! Liverpool gangs threatened to kill Gerrard when he wanted to go to Chelsea!

The worst you get at Spurs is a few tuts and boos at the full time whistle!