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Aug 9, 2008
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Thats a pure RED, he knew what he was doing, he even had time to atleast move his foot away , cantwell should be spelt with U and not an A, he really was one yday, anyone that denies thats a red is a joke im sorry ..... oh it was Mike Dean that was VAR ref what a bloody surprise. If Sons was a red then his was atleast 3 reds
 

stevenurse

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stevenurse

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Now I know grainy stills don't tell the whole story, but none of those are a red? Do me a favour
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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If you get a chance, look at the angle from in front of the players. The other angles, including the one from behind the players, looks as though Sessegnon might have caught Aarons, but that one clearly shows that he didn't touch him.
If one angle suggests no contact but four others suggest there was, chances are it's the one that's wrong.

I thought it was soft but there was enough for VAR to not overturn it. It's one where VAR would go with whichever call the ref made.
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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More concerning how the hell was Cantwell not sent off his red card Check was as obvious that he did not care if he injured the player.

EXACTLY! Silly me, what a fool I've been all these years for believing that any player who flies into a tackle like that with his studs raised is likely to cause SERIOUS injury to another player and should be RED CARDED. What an unbelievable decision by the ref to award a yellow and for VAR not to demand it be upgraded to a straight RED.

The fans around the country are dead right. FUCK VAR.

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JCRD

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I generally think that there is a lot of moaning about VAR and refereeing as a whole. Seems like every fan (not just Spurs fans) thinks the refs are out to get them and are against them - all very Rawkie. Some of the criticisms are justified but i think the majority isnt justified

I do think though yesterday the Cantwell one was more about impact than what he did - which is essentially a load of bollocks. He clearly had his leg extended and raised well after the actual tackle. It was a red clear as day.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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More concerning how the hell was Cantwell not sent off his red card Check was as obvious that he did not care if he injured the player.

Mile Dean was the VAR ref. Hope that helps.

Thought it was only a booking in the ground but obviously I was miles away.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Lots of booing for VAR from everyone for taking an age last night. Surely the idiots in charge must get the message soon?
 

muppetman

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Jul 29, 2011
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I still think this would be so much better if the ref went to the screen at the side of the pitch and made his mind up from there, delegating the decision making to a bloke in a shed 200 miles away just undermines the whole thing. It would also then be more obvious why it's taking the time it does etc.

Seems such a simple change but not happening.
 

aliyid

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Dec 28, 2004
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Lots of booing for VAR from everyone for taking an age last night. Surely the idiots in charge must get the message soon?
Was mainly confusion in the ground as looked like a harmless challenge in real time just hanging the leg out rather than putting any weight behind it to endanger the player.

Even on the replay I don’t think there was any malice or attempt to ‘do him’.Thing that got me was the randomness of some of the corner / goal kick decisions. We got a corner for a mishit shot from Dele then 2mins later an Eriksen shot took a huge deflection only to be given as a goal kick o_O
 

shelfmonkey

Weird is different, different is interesting.
Mar 21, 2007
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We do seem to be getting royaly fucked over with VAR decisions, can't remember the last time a big controversial decision went our way with VAR!!
 

shelfmonkey

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Mar 21, 2007
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Sheff Utd offside by a millimetre?

Wouldn't call that controversial, we've had two or three goals ruled out for the same reason, everyone knows the way VAR are implementing the offside rule, as ridiculous as it is, so not a fair example.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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We do seem to be getting royaly fucked over with VAR decisions, can't remember the last time a big controversial decision went our way with VAR!!
That's easy. Pukki's goal at Carrow Road, Sheffield United's goal at WHL, and City's disallowed winner at the Etihad are three absolutely huge calls that have gone our way this season.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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I don't think we're getting fucked over any more than any other team, VAR just isn't anywhere near fit for purpose in its current guise. Referees are encouraged to check the screens now for calls, but I haven't seen one do it? Why? Are they scared of undermining the ponce in the headset's call?
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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they need to change the offside rule to account for VAR. Always thought it was silly that if the players forelock was slightly ahead of the ball he could be ruled offside. Just make it both feet have to be behind the ball.
 

iddebu52

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Jun 5, 2007
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I tend to believe that the VAR decision in our favour in the CL game v shitty in the QF has come to bite us back really really bad with the VAR official. They have taken it in turns to give the decisions against us.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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I tend to believe that the VAR decision in our favour in the CL game v shitty in the QF has come to bite us back really really bad with the VAR official. They have taken it in turns to give the decisions against us.

Except that’s not true. Every team can point towards probably 5 decisions that they will feel that VAR has failed them which just shows how inept the whole system is. I agree we’ve yet to be on the receiving end of when one goes in our favour for a penalty call (Newcastle home) or a red card (see all 3 above) so here’s hoping we get some luck on that basis soon.

my biggest gripe with it is that you can’t truly celebrate a goal until the game has kicked off again. Our first goal last night, at first glance it looked like Aurier May have gone offside about 3 or 4 phases of play before. I was expecting VAR to be calling that back and disallow it. The game is about emotion and no greater than when you score a goal. Take that emotion away and you’re left feeling what’s the point.
 
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