Spurs and VAR
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They don’t need VAR at all. The referee has the perfect tool in the pitchside monitor.These monitors have been totally underused as to date. The person with the decisions should be the ref on the field not the ref watching the game from miles away.
Erm33
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VAR is only needed for major errors. Clear offsides that have been missed, and by clear I mean it being blatantly obvious not an inch.
Major injustices.
No football fan expects every decision to be perfect to the letter of the law as it would take 20 hours to complete a game.
We want to see an exciting game of football that is allowed to flow and if there is a major decision that is wrong and clearly wrong because the referee couldn't see for sure or the goal line technology fails and it's clearly a goal like the Villa and Sheffield united game after the restart then that when it should pop up and fix the glaring error.
No one wants goals chalked off minutes after they've been scored for the most minor infraction.
The handball law itself is a joke too. The whole point of the rule in the first place was to stop players gaining an advantage by using their arms/hands. So change it back to where if it was deliberate or used to score a goal/block a direct goal. Not give penalties for incidents where players have no idea that the ball is about to strike their arm from a close distance.
Just cause VAR is there it shouldn't be used unless desperately needed. I just hope they change both VAR implementation and the handball rule cause it really does affect the way the game translates to an audience which is the only thing keeping the game afloat financially right now.
Major injustices.
No football fan expects every decision to be perfect to the letter of the law as it would take 20 hours to complete a game.
We want to see an exciting game of football that is allowed to flow and if there is a major decision that is wrong and clearly wrong because the referee couldn't see for sure or the goal line technology fails and it's clearly a goal like the Villa and Sheffield united game after the restart then that when it should pop up and fix the glaring error.
No one wants goals chalked off minutes after they've been scored for the most minor infraction.
The handball law itself is a joke too. The whole point of the rule in the first place was to stop players gaining an advantage by using their arms/hands. So change it back to where if it was deliberate or used to score a goal/block a direct goal. Not give penalties for incidents where players have no idea that the ball is about to strike their arm from a close distance.
Just cause VAR is there it shouldn't be used unless desperately needed. I just hope they change both VAR implementation and the handball rule cause it really does affect the way the game translates to an audience which is the only thing keeping the game afloat financially right now.
Neon_Knight_
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No VAR review for someone leading with their arm and inflicting two cuts? (Toby's brow + upper eyelid cut simultaneously, much like happened to Tyson Fury last year)
Similar aggression, lack of control and lack of regard for the safety of the opposing player with a slide tackle would be a straight red every time - intent or no intent. Why not for this?
Similar aggression, lack of control and lack of regard for the safety of the opposing player with a slide tackle would be a straight red every time - intent or no intent. Why not for this?
muppetman
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I didn't think it was so bad, he jumped and his arms are attached to his body - didn't look like he intentionally went to hurt him. You can usually tell the bad ones from the reaction of players around and there wasn't much.
Neon_Knight_
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No intent, but he led with his arm, was not in control and put someone's safety in jeopardy.
If a player leads with their foot, trying to win the ball not injure someone, but is not in control and puts an opponent at risk, it is a red card offence.
muppetman
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I think if it was the other way round we'd be massively pissed off if Toby got a yellow, let along a red.
Neon_Knight_
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The inconsistency of whether or not something is reviewed / overturned according to the situation is the worst part:
0.00001mm offside is enough for a goal to be ruled out for offside - when the linesman doesn't flag for it. Really harsh ball-to-hands leading to penalties / goals ruled out. Neither is clear or obvious and neither is wanted by any fan, player or manager.
Penalty decisions inside the box are only allowed to be overturned if "clear and obvious", but even then often aren't. This is one area where VAR needs more power.
BringBack_leGin
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If you gave a gorilla a chainsaw you’d get better results than these refs with VAR. We need to move more North West and wear more red if we ever want to get these decisions.
LeParisien
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Nuts decision for the goal. Unbelievable really. I don’t understand the rules anymore. And I’m generally supportive of VAR.
Shadydan
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It's not VAR it's individuals, that's just rank incompetency of the highest order.
aliyid
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100%, VAR did it’s job and gave him an opportunity to review the foul in case he hadn’t realised the importance at the time.
Having reviewed it and still given the goal that’s just shoddy reffing and somebody who is too stubborn / arrogant to change his original decision.
LeParisien
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What the hell was he looking at?
He’s a professional ref. He must have had a thought process...a reason which corresponds to the laws of the game...
Thank fuck we won
spids
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I thought our penalty wasn’t even a foul, and then the ref had only given it as a foul as he thought it was outside (still think it was outside). Then their goal, beyond belief. If after watching that tackle on Hojbjerg 10 times he felt it was not a foul, well ... he’s not fit to referee a Sunday league game. I hope he’s sacked, I really do, as he is totally inept as a referee. Brighton May have deserved a draw on the balance of play, and the penalty against them was a total travesty, but the Brighton goal... beggars belief.
matthew.absurdum
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What is the use of the VAR if the referee doesn't want to admit his mistake?
Spurrific
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He saw himself 2 foot away from the offence totally missing it, and stuck with his original incorrect decision in a warped attempt to save himself embarrassment. He should be suspended for it at least.
Tucker
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He’s a pretty terrible ref. After VAR gave us the penalty he pretty much gave every 50/50 Brighton’s way. I’ve noticed this is a theme with him when reffing bigger teams vs smaller teams. I imagine he’s the kind of guy that sees most hard tackles as “part of the game“ and thinks anyone wearing boots that aren’t black should likely be playing abroad.
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Graham Scott should have this done to him by every spurs player for that ludicrous asinine decision
