Spurs and VAR

[mr ashley]

Just by looking at the replays.

The replays of them practising it in a training game?
I think that’s the part people are struggling to digest- not the fact the ball hit Sissoko arm.
You’re saying it was a targeted strategy.
Not sure we’ve seen since any further evidence of Liverpool winning pens this season with that approach (they usually just dive).

Also, if true, it’s a shame that no one told Sissoko. He still plays with his arms out stretched like a scarecrow

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

The replays of them practising it in a training game?
I think that’s the part people are struggling to digest- not the fact the ball hit Sissoko arm.
You’re saying it was a targeted strategy.
Not sure we’ve seen since any further evidence of Liverpool winning pens this season with that approach (they usually just dive).

Also, if true, it’s a shame that no one told Sissoko. He still plays with his arms out stretched like a scarecrow

It’s true, honestly.OK he doesn’t do it in games but hey,come on this was the Champions League Final. My son in law is a Liverpool nut and we watched replays for over an hour and even he agrees.

 

[Grey Fox]

There should have been two penalties in our game last night cos Lamela was hauled down at the near post by Smith in the same incident.
Oliver's decision last night is a disgrace, but the problem is if he is removed from the NLD we will end up with the same problem that we had with Dean with nearly all of his mates gave ridiculous decisions against us for weeks after almost as a "don't fuck with us" statement

 

[sammy1882]

Was there a foul on Moura in the box near the end of injury time as well? They didn't really replay it much so i couldn't tell if it was a pen.

 

[Monkey boy]

Was there a foul on Moura in the box near the end of injury time as well? They didn't really replay it much so i couldn't tell if it was a pen.

no

 

[spursfan77]

That penalty decision last night was pretty suspect imo. It was a very clear shove in the back, much more cut and dry than the penalty Dier gave away against United.

There didn’t even seem to be a review by VAR. After the Sheff Utd game I wasn’t even that annoyed by it though, I expected the decision to go the other way.

Ive stopped celebrating goals. Why get your hopes up when it’s 50/50 that it will get disallowed.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Ive stopped celebrating goals. Why get your hopes up when it’s 50/50 that it will get disallowed.

When it comes to us I have. You simply know it's coming.

 

[chrissivad]

Ive stopped celebrating goals. Why get your hopes up when it’s 50/50 that it will get disallowed.

Yeah, that's the reason... Not that we can't score

 

[Lighty64]

100% for VAR tonight.
Wrong call in ever game...

Well done to the idiots using this.

even more worrying is Oliver was VAR ref for the Moura handball and last night, and he is the ref on the onfield ref for our match Sunday

 

[spud]

The standard of refereeing since the return has been abysmal, maybe it’s always been this bad but we haven’t noticed it because it’s not been on telly though.

Refs seem to get away with being shit though. Take Michael Oliver for example, who always seems to make an error of judgement at some point. Yet he’s consistently praised by the pundits as being the “best ref in the country.”

I get being a ref is a difficult job, but they don’t ever seem to learn from their mistakes. They never seem consistent with their rulings and are generally just shit at it. Surely a professional body should expect better?

It's no coincidence that FIFA didn't select any english refs for the last world cup. You know you're in trouble when the concensus is that the best of the lot is Michael Oliver.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Have a VAR only team to get some level of consistent decision making for the more obvious calls, have ref look at screen for more marginal decisions where he may want to have 2nd look. No more of this different ref every week seemingly there just to back up their mate on the pitch. VAR as is is abhorrent and is ruining the game. Frustrating as these two obvious fixes could make it quite useful...

 

[sausage]

VAR as is is abhorrent and is ruining the game. Frustrating as these two obvious fixes could make it quite useful...

VAR isn't - just the PL 'interpretation' which seems to go against Collina's advice.

 

[swarvsta]

Apparently we were 4th in the VAR winners column. Really didn’t feel that way...

The best stats from the strangest season

BBC Sport takes a dive into some of the more obscure stats from an English top-flight campaign like no other.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[spud]

Apparently we were 4th in the VAR winners column. Really didn’t feel that way...

The best stats from the strangest season

BBC Sport takes a dive into some of the more obscure stats from an English top-flight campaign like no other.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's because they're wrong. We have nothing in the 'Goal not awarded/overturned' category in the first table. Without giving any thought to it, I can immediately recall the one that was chalked off at Leicester because Son was ruled offside (by a gnat's pube) in the build up. If they've got that wrong I wouldn't be surprised if the whole article is bollocks.

You used to be able to rely on the BBC. Now they're as sloppy as everybody else.

 

[SandroClegane]

That's because they're wrong. We have nothing in the 'Goal not awarded/overturned' category in the first table. Without giving any thought to it, I can immediately recall the one that was chalked off at Leicester because Son was ruled offside (by a gnat's pube) in the build up. If they've got that wrong I wouldn't be surprised if the whole article is bollocks.

You used to be able to rely on the BBC. Now they're as sloppy as everybody else.

We're also listed on the VAR losers with 4 goals awarded/overturned, which is where Son fits in as well as the Moura handball. I think you may have misread it.

 

[JimmyG2]

My feeling was that we did quite well from VAR overall
mistakes and all.
Needs sorting though.
On-field Referee must be more proactive
and in contact with the absent advisers.
Should over-rule obvious nonsense
like the Moura hand-ball.
Hopefully it will get quicker

 

[swarvsta]

The stats are from OPTA, not the BBC.

The way they are written and visualised is quite confusing, with them using double negatives.

Also, things like Kane not being awarded two clear penalties is not shown under those stats. Nor is the red card Chelsea should have got.

 

[homer hotspur]

The stats are from OPTA, not the BBC.

The way they are written and visualised is quite confusing, with them using double negatives.

Also, things like Kane not being awarded two clear penalties is not shown under those stats. Nor is the red card Chelsea should have got.

But, the odds are that most teams would have been able to point to such instances not just us.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

The offside law has to change if your level you should be onside and the benefit goes to the attacking side - it really isn't in the spirit of the game to disallow a goal because someones shoulder or toe is offside - it does nothing for the game at all

Perhaps VAR would be better served by looking at diving and the rule changed that if it is dive in box then the player diving should be sent off. i think that getting rid of the crazy hand on to ball rule and the two rules above would be a huge improvement

 

[Dillspur]

The offside law has to change if your level you should be onside and the benefit goes to the attacking side - it really isn't in the spirit of the game to disallow a goal because someones shoulder or toe is offside - it does nothing for the game at all

Perhaps VAR would be better served by looking at diving and the rule changed that if it is dive in box then the player diving should be sent off. i think that getting rid of the crazy hand on to ball rule and the two rules above would be a huge improvement

The law was to stop an unfair advantage. If they had any sense they would go back to that, a shoulder, a toe being offside doesn't give an advantage.

Anything less than 30cm should be considered onside, I would imagine that could be determined in less than 30 seconds.