Spot The Difference
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EnfieldYiddo
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Is this meant to be satirical? If not you're a bit dumb as several of the players in the first formation are in fact injured. Not even our Lord n Saviour 'Arry could of got round that dilemma...
TheGreenLily
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I spot 7 differences and one player out of position.
Is this highlighting the difference between the decent starting 11 Harry had, and the utter shite AVB has got?
Is this highlighting the difference between the decent starting 11 Harry had, and the utter shite AVB has got?
Misfit
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Quite stark really. The spine of the team gone completely. King, Mod, VDV, Parker (who I feel a lot of people underestimate in just how much energy he brings to our team) and Ade.
Ade is back from injury so hopefully he starts to see himself on the teamsheet again. As for the rest...I can only weep at the quality we've lost right now, be it through retirement, sales or injury.
Catastrophic.
Ade is back from injury so hopefully he starts to see himself on the teamsheet again. As for the rest...I can only weep at the quality we've lost right now, be it through retirement, sales or injury.
Catastrophic.
Super Tottenham
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Looking at it, the grass seems to be greener on the other side, but I'm not sure that is the case.
mk_spur
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avb can only play the players at his disposal selling players and not adequately replacing them is not avb's fault. im not 100 % convinced of avb yet but i am willing to give him more time. Dembele missing creates a huge hole that the girth that is hudd cannot fill.
Pat Rice Spurs fan
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Look at that first team and the idea of adding Lloris & Vertonghen seems orgasmic.
But then we loose Modric & VdV, don't play Lloris & Adebayor, pick up a couple of injuries & lack of form.
SHIT! We look weak.
But then we loose Modric & VdV, don't play Lloris & Adebayor, pick up a couple of injuries & lack of form.
SHIT! We look weak.
werty
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They're hardly utter shite. Some are playing like utter shite, but part of that is down to the manager and his tactics, or lack there of. He has to take some blame for the lack of movement, combination play, tempo and workrate, the retreating to our own penalty area in the second half if we're winning and the poor subs he makes. That team isn't worse than Wigan's, so why were they outplayed and out fought? Even when he had Sandro and Dembele together we weren't playing well. BTW, how often did the first team mentioned above play together? Very little I imagine.
Harry had plenty of shite but worked through it. In 09/10 Modric started 21 games, Lennon 20, King 19, Bale 18, Woodgate 3, VDV 0. In otherwords, our top players only played half the season and we still ended up with 70 points. The players who played the most were Huddlestone, Gomes, Defoe, BAE, Corluka, Palacios, Dawson and Bassong, most of which weren't deemed good enough for us this year.
Below are the teams that we had when we played Wigan twice that year (9-1 and 3-0 wins). They're not a whole lot better, if they are better at all, than the one we had today.
So, yes the players are worse than last year's. But they are not as bad as they are showing now because of poor management, and they no worse than the team we had in large parts of the 09/10 season when we finished in 4th with 70 points
RichieS
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I see that my sarcasm wasn't obvious. This thread was a direct reaction to several people in the match thread comparing how we played today unfavourably with how we were playing this time 12 months ago, whilst ignoring the most obvious reasons for that.
We were always going to be worse this season - without taking anything else into account we unavoidably lost 2 world class players from the spine of the team. While many whinge that the departed have not been 'adequately' replaced, we have neither the stature nor finance to bring in players anywhere near the level of King, Modric or van der Vaart.
When you then add in the injuries we are currently carrying, none of this is surprising at all - AVB is trying to gel a new squad, half of which is currently unable to play together.
Just to add a further team to the thread:
That - with subs along the lines of Friedel, Naughton, Caulker, Huddlestone, Sigurdsson, Dempsey, Defoe - is about as good a match day 18 as there is outside the top 3 and it is not until AVB has access to at least a significant part of that first 11 that I can even begin to judge him.
We were always going to be worse this season - without taking anything else into account we unavoidably lost 2 world class players from the spine of the team. While many whinge that the departed have not been 'adequately' replaced, we have neither the stature nor finance to bring in players anywhere near the level of King, Modric or van der Vaart.
When you then add in the injuries we are currently carrying, none of this is surprising at all - AVB is trying to gel a new squad, half of which is currently unable to play together.
Just to add a further team to the thread:
That - with subs along the lines of Friedel, Naughton, Caulker, Huddlestone, Sigurdsson, Dempsey, Defoe - is about as good a match day 18 as there is outside the top 3 and it is not until AVB has access to at least a significant part of that first 11 that I can even begin to judge him.
nightgoat
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Just to add a further team to the thread:
Four of that team started in those positions today and Sandro subsequently went off injured. Adebayor came on in the second half, and Lloris really should be starting all our league games by now, but either way that is still less than half of what is as close to our strongest line up as could probably be agreed.
Stavrogin
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That's not really the problem though, is it?
We know our relative strength is down on last year and that we have players injured. But the fact remains that we're playing badly with what we've got. Of course when Adebayor and Dembele come back into the team business will pick up but there are legitimate problems that people are right to pick up on.
No one's really played well this season (perhaps Vertonghen and Caulker)
We don't seem to play with much verve or cohesion
In a good proportion of our games we've totally lost the initiative
etc. etc.
These are problems regardless of what happened last season and who's injured. We'll probably improve as the season goes on but it doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about them or not be concerned - and it's only natural that people will get down and focus on a perceived decline.
We know our relative strength is down on last year and that we have players injured. But the fact remains that we're playing badly with what we've got. Of course when Adebayor and Dembele come back into the team business will pick up but there are legitimate problems that people are right to pick up on.
No one's really played well this season (perhaps Vertonghen and Caulker)
We don't seem to play with much verve or cohesion
In a good proportion of our games we've totally lost the initiative
etc. etc.
These are problems regardless of what happened last season and who's injured. We'll probably improve as the season goes on but it doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about them or not be concerned - and it's only natural that people will get down and focus on a perceived decline.
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Yes, and at the moment Adebayor came on - theoretically lifting us back to a massive FOUR first-choice players, AVB made the abominable tactical decision to switch Bale and Lennon. Not only did that totally defy the logic of bringing on the taller target man, it brought us down to TWO the number of first-choice players in their best positions.
It's tactics, Jim, but not as we know it.
Spurs_Bear
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Fixed.
