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This is were we need the THST to do their job.

It needs to be made clear that Levy should have no involvement in selecting players.

All we here time and time again is 'Levy wants this player, Levy agrees to that player'. Bergwijn being the latest that wasnt the Managers choice.
Yet that player has made more of an impact as a signing than anyone else ... Jack Clarke was the example you were looking for.
 

DiVaio

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This is were we need the THST to do their job.

It needs to be made clear that Levy should have no involvement in selecting players.

All we here time and time again is 'Levy wants this player, Levy agrees to that player'. Bergwijn being the latest that wasnt the Managers choice.
And this Bergwijn is fantastic player. Mourinho preferred striker over another winger, not that he didn't Bergwijn. Also ITK said that he was happy with this transfer window and he already had another striker chosen for summer
 

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IMO one of our biggest bug bears is the speed (or lack of) with which we integrate players. How long did it take Liverpool to have Andy Robertson up and running, and how much trust are Chelsea and MU showing in players like Mount, Timori, McTominay and Greenwood. If Klopp had signed Sessegnon would he still be kicking his heels on the touchline? We're crying out for a DM but Oliver Skipp doesn't get a sniff in spite of the fact he's never let us down. If we got Campos I'd imagine the same fate for a lot of the players he identifies and they'd all end up in Josh Onomah land.
 

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IMO one of our biggest bug bears is the speed (or lack of) with which we integrate players. How long did it take Liverpool to have Andy Robertson up and running, and how much trust are Chelsea and MU showing in players like Mount, Timori, McTominay and Greenwood. If Klopp had signed Sessegnon would he still be kicking his heels on the touchline? We're crying out for a DM but Oliver Skipp doesn't get a sniff in spite of the fact he's never let us down. If we got Campos I'd imagine the same fate for a lot of the players he identifies and they'd all end up in Josh Onomah land.
You realise who trusted McTominay?
And that although Chelsea trusted their youth, they did it because they had to. They're all getting replaced in this window.

We definitely have issues to resolve and I hope we do.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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And this Bergwijn is fantastic player. Mourinho preferred striker over another winger, not that he didn't Bergwijn. Also ITK said that he was happy with this transfer window and he already had another striker chosen for summer
It's not about Bergwijn as an individual, he may well turn out great.

It's about having somebody without any footballing knowledge having a say on player recruitment.
 

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In my opinion we need a Sporting Director that understands the premiership. Dortmund and Bayern are well run clubs because all their decisions are made from ex players but also ex german players that understand what works in the Bundesliga.

We had Arnesen who was very reminiscent of my approach in Champ Manager back in the day; who bought players that never really fitted in the way we played as a team and also most of them weren't suited to the Premier League.

Then we had Comolli who for some reason paid 16.5m on a striker that isn't suited to playing for a team at home whose opposition play deep but brought in two of the most technically gifted players we have ever seen at the club in Modric and Berbatov. He still however had a habit of leaving the squad unbalanced in certain areas.

Baldini proved a failure and wasted what should of been our opportunity to build a great team
but again failed to understand the Premier League and it's demands on players.

If we are thinking of reintroducing a DOF then I would prefer it be an Englishmen or someone who has actually played in this country and understands the level what is required.
 

HildoSpur

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Can we get Pleat in as an interim measure and then get a top class DOF in? I think that would be the most sensible option - we clearly lack direction in our transfers.
 

ILS

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Can we get Pleat in as an interim measure and then get a top class DOF in? I think that would be the most sensible option - we clearly lack direction in our transfers.
I would take the Ginger Pele at centre half right now!
 
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You're clearly very finance savvy and hence, Im sure you will agree that the margins on concerts and shows combined with the NFL revenue (not counting the potential for the much vaunted London NFL franchise in the future) are significant. as such, with the high fixed costs in football, my view is that the other sports and entertainment revenue streams will continue to garner more importance.

Its for this reason that I believe ENIC will focus more on turning us into a multi sports and entertainment group and maintain THFC as a high profile football club, where silverware is not necessarily integral to commercial success.
This is my fear, Hedgie, and has been for a while, that ENIC aren't interested in prioritising the football team. I'm trying to embrace @SecretLemonadeDrinker's optimism and look for indications that ENIC might just be prepared to commit aggressively to the dream they sold us: an increased revenue generating stadium that would afford as the financial cloud to build a team capable of winning the League. But currently, it feels like "one swallow doesn't make a Summer (Transfer Window)". Perhaps the appointment of a DoF and a much-needed restructuring of Player Recruitiment (with Levy pushed aside) would represent one of these indicators. As @JayB quite rightly said "we still need a DOF to provide a coherent strategy to approaching the market". Until that happens, it feels like we'll continue to stumble around with no discernible plan to even get us back to the level we were a few years ago, whilst our (ex-)rivals continue to strengthen. Take good care, mate.
 

Albertbarich

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It’s pretty much how we built up the playing squad to get to where it was under Poch. Trouble is it can take a long time and also players that were £10 million then are £20/25 million now more or less.
Yep.

I think the ridiculous upsurge in prices has caught us out. Levy doesn't want to risk 25 to 30 million on an unknown quantity.
 

Albertbarich

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A sporting director wouldnt solve the issue. He would be working with a remit of buying players that represent value. Positional needs dont come into it.

Don't get me wrong id like one but like commoli and baldini showed they work for levy and his needs as opposed to the managers.
 

Cochise

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Need one if this talk of a long term project is for real. No way do I trust Levy and his current batch of "advisors" to safely steer us through the next few years.
 

Metalhead

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This is my fear, Hedgie, and has been for a while, that ENIC aren't interested in prioritising the football team. I'm trying to embrace @SecretLemonadeDrinker's optimism and look for indications that ENIC might just be prepared to commit aggressively to the dream they sold us: an increased revenue generating stadium that would afford as the financial cloud to build a team capable of winning the League. But currently, it feels like "one swallow doesn't make a Summer (Transfer Window)". Perhaps the appointment of a DoF and a much-needed restructuring of Player Recruitiment (with Levy pushed aside) would represent one of these indicators. As @JayB quite rightly said "we still need a DOF to provide a coherent strategy to approaching the market". Until that happens, it feels like we'll continue to stumble around with no discernible plan to even get us back to the level we were a few years ago, whilst our (ex-)rivals continue to strengthen. Take good care, mate.
Thing is that it is in the interest of ENIC to have a successful club as it is crucial to having a long term support. To a level, clubs like Newcastle and Leeds can rely on a partisan support but Spurs can’t assume that the support will automatically be generation upon generation turning up.
 

SecretLemonadeDrinker

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You're clearly very finance savvy and hence, Im sure you will agree that the margins on concerts and shows combined with the NFL revenue (not counting the potential for the much vaunted London NFL franchise in the future) are significant. as such, with the high fixed costs in football, my view is that the other sports and entertainment revenue streams will continue to garner more importance.

Its for this reason that I believe ENIC will focus more on turning us into a multi sports and entertainment group and maintain THFC as a high profile football club, where silverware is not necessarily integral to commercial success.

First off, I wouldn’t dare describe myself as “finance savvy”! “Interested” would be more accurate. If the “Hedgie” in your user name is a reference to you being involved with hedge funds in some capacity, you are likely streets ahead of me in your knowledge and understanding of finance!

Secondly, I think we should be careful not to overplay the impact of non football events at the stadium. Only 16 per annum are permitted. So some two thirds of all major events at the stadium will necessarily be Spurs games. The football club will consequently still be overwhelmingly the biggest income generator for the company. ENIC will still have every reason to want the football club to be as successful as possible.

ENIC’s motivation isn’t a concern, I don’t think. Their execution, however.....?
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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First off, I wouldn’t dare describe myself as “finance savvy”! “Interested” would be more accurate. If the “Hedgie” in your user name is a reference to you being involved with hedge funds in some capacity, you are likely streets ahead of me in your knowledge and understanding of finance!

Secondly, I think we should be careful not to overplay the impact of non football events at the stadium. Only 16 per annum are permitted. So some two thirds of all major events at the stadium will necessarily be Spurs games. The football club will consequently still be overwhelmingly the biggest income generator for the company. ENIC will still have every reason to want the football club to be as successful as possible.

ENIC’s motivation isn’t a concern, I don’t think. Their execution, however.....?
I’d agree with that. I can’t see why they would make an assumption that they could operate a successful entertainment complex with a bang average club at the centre of it.
 

HedgieSpur

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I’d agree with that. I can’t see why they would make an assumption that they could operate a successful entertainment complex with a bang average club at the centre of it.

Lots of US sports franchises are able to ...I should know, Im. a fan of the Raiders!
 
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