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Sevilla want to sell Youssef En-Nesyri in Bryan Gil swap deal

coy-spurs1882

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for progressive squad building we need to:-
1. sign someone that is already better than we have AND
2. sign someone that has the potential to be better than we have
we have signed too much "ok" players that "can do a job for us" in the past decade. hope this would be rectified under Paratici and Lange
 

Locotoro

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This is a weird one because I think if it was any other time I'd say meh

But I actually think he'd be a really good fit in what Ange is trying to do - which is have a guy in the box that will get to the right areas to score

But in terms of overall footballing ability it's meh haha
I think this hits the nail on the head.

If Ange is looking for someone who is just going to focus on getting into the box and Infront of his defender to score En-Nesyri is a very good option. I'd even hasten to add that he's been deployed in a very specific way at Sevilla as they tend to cross to his head a lot. But if he shows the same level of improvement that Richarlison showed after working with Ange and his job is only 1 touch finishing then he will get at least 20 league goals. When I criticised his finishing what I meant is that he doesn't have a variety to call upon. He's not going to chip the keeper or curl it from range. He's going to head it in or score one touch from the 6 yard area.

Yes he hasn't shown much in all around build up play but aside from hold up does Ange really want that?

He's better than Richarlison but he's not elite level
 

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I'll leave it up to Ange.
If he wants him ,I'm happy, if he doesn't I'm happy and hopeful we'll buy someone better.
 

Misfit

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He's alright but I fear we'll end up with two strikers who aren't quite the required standard instead of just the one now and a proper starting-calibre striker. I understand quantity is a quality itself in a squad looking to compete in more than one competition but you still need an injection of legit quality too.
 

TEESSIDE1

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He's alright but I fear we'll end up with two strikers who aren't quite the required standard instead of just the one now and a proper starting-calibre striker. I understand quantity is a quality itself in a squad looking to compete in more than one competition but you still need an injection of legit quality too.

What doesn’t make sense re potentially signing En-Nesyri is although he’s very good in the air:

1) we tend to put low crosses in the box
2) he would be our only aerial threat outside of set pieces. It’s hard enough to find Richarlison as it is, we would have the same issue if En-Nesyri played in his place
 
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Locotoro

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I can’t leave this upto Ange-sorry
Spurs bias aside, most people would have discarded someone like Xhaka on the scrap heap. He's gone to Leverkusen and with a change in system become.one of their most important players in their title win.

I'm not saying En-Nesyri will do that for us but I don't see why he can't be an effective goal scorer for us if that's what Ange wants.

I can't see many better options available in this summers market? Do you?
 

Locotoro

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He's alright but I fear we'll end up with two strikers who aren't quite the required standard instead of just the one now and a proper starting-calibre striker. I understand quantity is a quality itself in a squad looking to compete in more than one competition but you still need an injection of legit quality too.
In all honesty, although I wouldn't mind signing him I would much prefer signing someone that was elite level now.

I can't actually think of who that would be that we could realistically get though.

If you consider the top strikers this year, the only viable option is Gyokeres (astronomical fee) and he's out of our price range and still doesn't guarantee performance
 

Misfit

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In all honesty, although I wouldn't mind signing him I would much prefer signing someone that was elite level now.

I can't actually think of who that would be that we could realistically get though.

If you consider the top strikers this year, the only viable option is Gyokeres (astronomical fee) and he's out of our price range and still doesn't guarantee performance
Yes, not the most fertile hunting grounds for strikers this window.
 

TEESSIDE1

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Yes, not the most fertile hunting grounds for strikers this window.

Across Europe and without including the ridiculously expensive players on the most part you’re talking choosing from:

Openda - 24 - expensive
Guirassy - 28 - affordable - 1 season wonder?
Ferguson - 19 - very expensive
Cunha - 25 - expensive - EPL experience
Muani - 25 - very expensive
Beier - 21 - affordable - high risk
Vlahovic - 24 - expensive
Brobbey - 22 - affordable - high risk
Gyokeres - 26 - very expensive
Dovbyk - 26 - affordable - limited skill set
Sorloth - 28 - affordable - previously flopped

Given how we play I would go for :

Primary target - Openda
EPL experience - Cunha
Potential - Beier

Some will turn their noses up at En-Nesyri and I get why but there’s not a lot of quality available and if we’re wanting better than what we already have then we’re going to have to spend circa £70-80m. The alternative is bring in some like En-Nesyri for a cheap fee to give us another option up top and then look to invest the money we’ve saved elsewhere in the team.
 
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Locotoro

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Across Europe and without including the ridiculously expensive players on the most part you’re talking choosing from:

Openda - 24 - expensive
Guirassy - 28 - affordable - 1 season wonder?
Ferguson - 19 - very expensive
Cunha - 25 - expensive - EPL experience
Muani - 25 - very expensive
Beier - 21 - affordable - high risk
Vlahovic - 24 - expensive
Brobbey - 22 - affordable - high risk
Gyokeres - 26 - very expensive
Dovbyk - 26 - affordable - limited skill set
Sorloth - 28 - affordable - previously flopped

Given how we play I would go for :

Primary target - Openda
EPL experience - Cunha
Potential - Beier

Some will turn their noses up at En-Nesyri and I get why but there’s not a lot of quality available and if we’re wanting better than what we already have then we’re going to have to spend circa £70-80m. The alternative is bring in some like En-Nesyri for a cheap fee to give us another option up top and then look to invest the money we’ve saved elsewhere in the team.
Even some of those suggestions like Guirassy, Sorloth, Dovbyk have bigger question marks than En-Nesyri. There are no guarantees. The only one I would be totally comfortable with is Ferguson and that's because he'd have time and retain his value.

On a side note, wouldn't it be great if one of our prospects like Scarlett, Parrott or Lankshear broke on to the scene and alleviated the need for a big money striker the way Kane did for us.
 

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Across Europe and without including the ridiculously expensive players on the most part you’re talking choosing from:

Openda - 24 - expensive
Guirassy - 28 - affordable - 1 season wonder?
Ferguson - 19 - very expensive
Cunha - 25 - expensive - EPL experience
Muani - 25 - very expensive
Beier - 21 - affordable - high risk
Vlahovic - 24 - expensive
Brobbey - 22 - affordable - high risk
Gyokeres - 26 - very expensive
Dovbyk - 26 - affordable - limited skill set
Sorloth - 28 - affordable - previously flopped

Given how we play I would go for :

Primary target - Openda
EPL experience - Cunha
Potential - Beier

Some will turn their noses up at En-Nesyri and I get why but there’s not a lot of quality available and if we’re wanting better than what we already have then we’re going to have to spend circa £70-80m. The alternative is bring in some like En-Nesyri for a cheap fee to give us another option up top and then look to invest the money we’ve saved elsewhere in the team.

Just saw this analysis put together and thought it was interesting in regards to your comment. He took players out that would cost 30m plus - Beier mentioned

I do wonder if our data approach will show risks in the market and maybe we go with a cheaper "stop gap" due to the data

 

Twizzle

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if this guy was any good then they'd want someone better than Gil in a swap deal

doesn't add up to me
 

TEESSIDE1

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if this guy was any good then they'd want someone better than Gil in a swap deal

doesn't add up to me

Gil was their crown jewel when we signed him and he’s since had a decent loan spell back at Sevilla… it makes a lot of sense that they would want him back
 

Twizzle

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Gil was their crown jewel when we signed him and he’s since had a decent loan spell back at Sevilla… it makes a lot of sense that they would want him back

I didn't think he was that good, He got hooked at half time in his last game for them
 
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