Scientifically - we are 5th biggest club

[SNAFU_Clarke]

everton may well have a bigger stadium but it is horrible compared to WHL.

 

[roosh]

These are fair points but remember that finances are only relevant based on their effect on the team's current and future success. Citeh's owners have thrown £300m at it and just about scraped into CL. They might spend another billion and not win the CL (Chelsea haven't). Clearly it's diminishing returns - 10x money <> 10x success

True, but Chelsea's finances have meant they haven't been outside the top 2 in how long; plus they've won several titles and cups as a result, together with a CL final appearance. In fact, they've had relative success despite changing managers on a regular basis, and having an owner who interferes in the management of the team. All of that is pretty much down to their finances.

Equally, City are only seeing the fruits now. They've won a cup and far from scraping into the CL, they've qualified automatically for the CL, with a league place to spare - again, pretty much entirely as a result of their finances.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

Nice idea but the ratings are always going to be debatable. If you look globally at the fanbase then the arse are definately way ahead of us probably chelski too. As far as silverware goes too well recent success should weigh more than historic success because it's shows how good you currently are.

 

[kishman]

Ummmmm sorry to be a total dick but I would say it was mathmatics :wink:.

Yes but mathematics is a science.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

Yes but mathematics is a science.

debatable at best

 

[haxman]

debatable at best

Try doing physics without maths and you'll see it's not really debatable.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

Try doing physics without maths and you'll see it's not really debatable.

the math Doctors think it's debatable so who am I to disagree

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/52363.html

 

[peter_the_yid]

I dont know where people in this thread and the other have got the idea that Chelsea have no fans?
Their fan base is massive!

 

[kishman]

debatable at best

As a soon to be master of mathematics, I say mathematics is a science.

 

[Viva la Tottenham]

As a soon to be master of mathematics, I say mathematics is a science.

As a soon to be master of everything, I say bow down biatch. :bow:

 

[kishman]

As a soon to be master of everything, I say bow down biatch. :bow:

:lol:

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Not sure I agree on you're criteria.

Si = the most important
TL = Top flight longevity - league preformance would probably be better
St = Stadium/Facilities - Doesn't matter. means little.
LD = Last decade performance - means nothing in 20 years, otherwise known as meaning mothing
Fi = Current financial muscle - means nothing
Fa = Fan base -important
To = Total

Silverwhere is difficult because one would need to apply value to each compotition won, and its value at the time. For example when Villa won the League when it had only one division and some big clubs of the time regected joining it, its not like it matters that much, and the FA cup held more value at the time. Now the FA cup holds less value but still means quite a lot. UEFA cup is probably the won to have lost most value. But I think only liverpool have won it since its loss in value.

I think it all depends on how you define biggest club. We as Spurs fans like to define big clubs as ones with history and traditions, but you can be sure as hell that players class big clubs as ones that can offer them a lot of money. There is no way in the current age of football that you can say that the financial muscle means nothing in terms of being a big club.

All of the criteria listed represent big clubs from different perspectives and as such can all be argued as being relevant. There is no way to separate the history from the present, everything that has happened in the past is building up to the future of the club.

everton may well have a bigger stadium but it is horrible compared to WHL.

Yes true and we also have higher ticket prices which makes up for the fact that we have less seats.