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felmani26

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Looks like Xavi is getting fired at the end of the season now so good chance this changes things for Vitor
Quite possibly.

Seems the board are in denial about their financial predicament which Xavi alludes to so if they want to bury their heads in the sand and continue to spend beyond their means then go ahead.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Wait what? Wasn't it agreed that he was now staying on? 😅
Yup but in a press conference for their win against Almeria he was asked about the future and the gap to RM and he said…

“We are going to try to compete against Madrid. I think that the cule must understand that the situation is very difficult. Above all, on an economic level. We have an economic situation that has nothing to do with 25 years ago, we can no longer go out and pick and say ‘I want this one, this one, and that one.’ We are not in the same conditions than other clubs with very advantageous economic situations.”

Which Laporta and the board did not like (even tho it’s true) so they are supposedly kicking him out.
 

HildoSpur

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I did a lot of watching of Gimenez and these were my conclusions:

fox in the box, very quick to get onto chances. Service dependent. Takes advantage of a lot of awful defending and goalkeeping so his goal tally is inflated. Never stops working, pest to defend and get presser. Quick to shift ball and shoot so doesn’t need a ton of space. Not a great passer. Not such a clean, talented, technical finisher. He’s not picking out corner after corner like elite finishers do.
Based on this he sounds absolutely perfect for what we need. I think a real poacher who comes alive in the box with great movement is exactly what's required and a player with those skills could score an absolute bucket load of goals in our system. We basically need our Haaland - we don't need a Kane type player who contributes to our play and comes deep, what we need is a guy to be there consistently on the end of chances that come into the box.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Yup but in a press conference for their win against Almeria he was asked about the future and the gap to RM and he said…

“We are going to try to compete against Madrid. I think that the cule must understand that the situation is very difficult. Above all, on an economic level. We have an economic situation that has nothing to do with 25 years ago, we can no longer go out and pick and say ‘I want this one, this one, and that one.’ We are not in the same conditions than other clubs with very advantageous economic situations.”

Which Laporta and the board did not like (even tho it’s true) so they are supposedly kicking him out.
Man you called it early, Laporta is liable to do absolutely anything😂
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Based on this he sounds absolutely perfect for what we need. I think a real poacher who comes alive in the box with great movement is exactly what's required and a player with those skills could score an absolute bucket load of goals in our system. We basically need our Haaland - we don't need a Kane type player who contributes to our play and comes deep, what we need is a guy to be there consistently on the end of chances that come into the box.
I agree with this in general, but then these ‘poacher’ types can be found all around Europe very easily and for a lot less than what Giminez will cost.

And I’m actually pro-Giminez, but another red flag I have with his signing is that I always hate signing players from a team that is flying and that their manager is very highly rated.

To me, it’s clear that Slot was already getting the absolute maximum out of Giminez ability wise and was providing him the perfect platform to succeed.

Thus we’re paying the fee for a player who’s playing at the peak of his abilities.

To frame this against another scenario I’ll use the Timo Werner signing(who I don’t actually but is a good example for the point I’m making).

With Timo we saw a player that was struggling and in bad form, who’s confidence was low and was playing in a system that didn’t suit him at all.

We saw this and believed that put in our system that he could play much better. But the fee we had to pay for this was very low, as his value to Leipzig was through the floor due to his performances there.

Here’s some quotes from Ange explaining that very situation:
“It’s fair to say Leipzig play a little bit differently now and somebody like Timo, the system they play doesn’t necessarily suit him and he does have some competition.

“It’s fair to say that if Timo was playing regularly and scoring goals, he wouldn’t be here. We wouldn’t be able to afford him. It’s as simple as that. You’re looking for these opportunities and potentially looking beyond the obvious to say, ‘there’s an opportunity here’.

For the record, I thought that Vitor Roque was going to be another absolutely perfect example of this opportunity presenting itself to us in the window, but unfortunately that no longer seems like the case.
 

Whazam

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Yup but in a press conference for their win against Almeria he was asked about the future and the gap to RM and he said…

“We are going to try to compete against Madrid. I think that the cule must understand that the situation is very difficult. Above all, on an economic level. We have an economic situation that has nothing to do with 25 years ago, we can no longer go out and pick and say ‘I want this one, this one, and that one.’ We are not in the same conditions than other clubs with very advantageous economic situations.”

Which Laporta and the board did not like (even tho it’s true) so they are supposedly kicking him out.
Haha, absolutely mental if they fire him after trying so hard to convince him to stay, just because he says something the whole world can see anyway.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Quotes from Van Der Vaart on him here, who used to believe he was terrible.

“I had my doubts,” Spurs icon Rafael van der Vaarttold Ziggo Sport. “Now, he convinces me more and more. He really has become a very good striker. He has so much confidence and feels so good in De Kuip.

“He still has a long way to go but he has now convinced me. You can no longer say it is a coincidence (when you look at his numbers).

“Great player. Great left foot.”
 

McFlash

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Quotes from Van Der Vaart on him here, who used to believe he was terrible.

“I had my doubts,” Spurs icon Rafael van der Vaarttold Ziggo Sport. “Now, he convinces me more and more. He really has become a very good striker. He has so much confidence and feels so good in De Kuip.

“He still has a long way to go but he has now convinced me. You can no longer say it is a coincidence (when you look at his numbers).

“Great player. Great left foot.”
So, even the great Rafa is guilty of writing players off too early, he really is one of us!
 

King of the Lane

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Isnt HITC just a bang average media outlet rather than a reputable source? At least in this case I hope it is lol. Its a BIG no from me on Gimenez.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Isnt HITC just a bang average media outlet rather than a reputable source? At least in this case I hope it is lol. Its a BIG no from me on Gimenez.

Yeah I wouldn't trust HITC as a media outlet but i'm not sure what Graeme Bailey or Dan Owen's individual reps are like?
 

Ghost Hardware

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Isnt HITC just a bang average media outlet rather than a reputable source? At least in this case I hope it is lol. It’s a BIG no from me on Gimenez.
Yeah I thought they weren’t the most reliable. That being said I still think the fact he came to the stadium to watch a game makes him our most likely target. I mean we have supposedly been following him for over a year now. Far too coincidental for me.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Yeah I wouldn't trust HITC as a media outlet but i'm not sure what Graeme Bailey or Dan Owen's individual reps are like?

Looking at Dan Owen's other 'exclusives' he has Jeremy Frimpong in talks with Man City and Carlos Soler to Aston Villa. Seems like shots in the dark imo....
 

Ghost Hardware

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Looking at Dan Owen's other 'exclusives' he has Jeremy Frimpong in talks with Man City and Carlos Soler to Aston Villa. Seems like shots in the dark imo....
Tbf L’Equipe said yesterday that Villa have been in talks with Soler for a while now and they are reliable.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Yeah I thought they weren’t the most reliable. That being said I still think the fact he came to the stadium to watch a game makes him our most likely target. I mean we have supposedly been following him for over a year now. Far too coincidental for me.

Yeah I think you're most probably right.

I actually wouldn't mind signing him if we kept Richarlison for another season. Allowing Gimenez to develop and push Richy as the main striker while not piling on too much pressure on him to deliver from the off seems like a sensible plan.
 

Cochise

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Well if we get him and things go as most of us pessimists expect we might end up being forced to blood Veliz or Scarlett or Lankshear.
 
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