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Sandro is now undroppable.

Eric_s

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Since Sandro had a run in the team, we have had more clean sheet than the period before he featured. He does not allow the opposition to run into threatening position. Furthermore, he has shown that he can join in effectively in attacks.
I think our central midefield should be Modric and Sandro. Our lack of goals is due to poor finishing by Defoe (main culprit) and the rest of the strike force. We have been creating good scoring chances bar the wigan game where someone has rightly pointed out Harry's poor formation cost us the game.
 

Eric_s

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No player is undroppable.

He is droppable if he has a dip in form. Rgiht now no.
Messi on form is undroppable. Fabregas on form is undroppable. Tevez on form is undroppable. Rooney on form is undroppable. Modric on form is undroppable.
I can go on but I think I proved my point convincingly.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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He's undroppable until he hits a bad patch at which point he will become the subject of derision and would be deemed 'shit'.

Today's hero, tomorrow's ****.
 

Azrael

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He is droppable if he has a dip in form. Rgiht now no.
Messi on form is undroppable. Fabregas on form is undroppable. Tevez on form is undroppable. Rooney on form is undroppable. Modric on form is undroppable.
I can go on but I think I proved my point convincingly.
If on form is a requirement to be undroppable then no player is undroppable since no player is on form for every single game of his career.
 

Eric_s

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He's undroppable until he hits a bad patch at which point he will become the subject of derision and would be deemed 'shit'.

Today's hero, tomorrow's ****.

There is a group of fans who are as such. But not all fans are like that. I personally think there are a few top players in our team that all core to our sucess like Lampard is to Chelsea. These players may have some poor performances along the way but they will be valuable to the long term prospect of our club. Modric is a prime example.
 

Eric_s

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If on form is a requirement to be undroppable then no player is undroppable since no player is on form for every single game of his career.

If you read carefully, I used the adverbial 'now'. On form equals underoppable for top players.
 

Azrael

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If you read carefully, I used the adverbial 'now'. On form equals underoppable for top players.
Well, we'll have to disagree on this then.

But, nonetheless, the boy is a top, top player.

Triffic in fact.
 

Stavrogin

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But what if he is dropped and we play well and win?

People are going a little overboard with Sandro. He is great but unless you're personally hauling your team to victory every week (like Tevez, Messi etc.) I don't think you quite deserve the appellation undroppable.

You may technically be undroppable for lack of alternatives or that it's not logical to suddenly drop someone who's playing well, but you're not UNDROPPABLE!

Unless you're trying to start a new meme.
 

Eric_s

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But what if he is dropped and we play well and win?

People are going a little overboard with Sandro. He is great but unless you're personally hauling your team to victory every week (like Tevez, Messi etc.) I don't think you quite deserve the appellation undroppable.

You may technically be undroppable for lack of alternatives or that it's not logical to suddenly drop someone who's playing well, but you're not UNDROPPABLE!

Unless you're trying to start a new meme.

The probability of winning is highest when you do not concede. Sandro's presence has led to clean sheets. It is not unlikely for us to have lost against spammers and wigan after we failed to score. I just think that Sandro has a large role in keeping our defence tight.
We definitely need to buy a tevez-like attacker for the new season.
 

michaelden

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Without going on about form etc... I think we are seeing the lad playing to his potential and not like those first few games where he showed something. but also was very nervous. He looks better for waiting a bit
 

RJ1882

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Huddlestone has to play in our side when fit - whether its Sandro thats dropped, Modric shifted out left or further forward in place of VDV, or we change our system, we need Huddlestones passing ability in that midfield.
 

Eric_s

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Huddlestone has to play in our side when fit - whether its Sandro thats dropped, Modric shifted out left or further forward in place of VDV, or we change our system, we need Huddlestones passing ability in that midfield.

Why's that so? We progressed to the quarter final of the CL without his suppose 'superior' passing ability. In fact I have stated many times we are creating chances but just not converting them. Against blackpool and westham we had enough chances to win comfortably. Unless huddlestone can score consistently, I do not see why he is so crucial. What superb passes is he going to provide that will turn into goals if Defoe keeps getting offside, blasting the ball to the keeper or wide, Crouch keeps shooting weakly or foul his marker? You mean huddlestone is able to make a pass where by Defoe can not be caught offside, the ball will beat the keeper and defenders and allow any of our strikers to walk it into the goal?
hudd must wait for his chance like most other players in the team. He is not in the class of Modric where a automaic starting berth is a must. Unless anyone can argue that Sandro has no part to play in our clean sheets, then yes dropped him.
 

Kendall

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We kept a bunch of clean sheets and qualified for the cl last season with palacios and huddlestone as our main partnership. how does that fit in?
 

dimiSpur

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I think we tend to overhype players when they're playing well and overdo the criticism when they're having a dip. Sandro looks like a great defensive midfielder, but watching Man City yesterday, their "DM", Toure, was bursting forward and joining in attacks really well. So he's not in that class yet.

I still think our strongest team includes Huddlestone and Luka in the centre, as they seem to control games with their passing. Away to teams like Real though tomorrow, Sandro is a definite must start. There are games that require different players, it's good to see we have variety in abundance in midfield areas. It's upfront we lack that choice!
 

Eric_s

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I think we tend to overhype players when they're playing well and overdo the criticism when they're having a dip. Sandro looks like a great defensive midfielder, but watching Man City yesterday, their "DM", Toure, was bursting forward and joining in attacks really well. So he's not in that class yet.

I still think our strongest team includes Huddlestone and Luka in the centre, as they seem to control games with their passing. Away to teams like Real though tomorrow, Sandro is a definite must start. There are games that require different players, it's good to see we have variety in abundance in midfield areas. It's upfront we lack that choice!

What about when we don't have the ball? You expect us to dominate possession against the likes of Real and Barca?
Man city, bolton, sunderland etc had become stronger. We must continue to improve too. Its the fact that we did not improve our strikers that we now find ourselves struggling to repeat our top 4 finish.
As BC has mentioned countless times (and its true) but some here conveniently ignored, last season when huddlestone partnered Modric in CM, we had less possession when playing against good teams even at home. So saying that the two of them can control game is simply rubbish. You control game by having most of the possession.
So I am still waiting for someone to tell me what kind of chances can hudd create that even our misfiring strikers can convert effortlessly?
Our other problem is conceding goals and Sandro is hence vital to the team, especially almost every defenders are out injured.
 

dimiSpur

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What about when we don't have the ball? You expect us to dominate possession against the likes of Real and Barca?
Man city, bolton, sunderland etc had become stronger. We must continue to improve too. Its the fact that we did not improve our strikers that we now find ourselves struggling to repeat our top 4 finish.
As BC has mentioned countless times (and its true) but some here conveniently ignored, last season when huddlestone partnered Modric in CM, we had less possession when playing against good teams even at home. So saying that the two of them can control game is simply rubbish. You control game by having most of the possession.
So I am still waiting for someone to tell me what kind of chances can hudd create that even our misfiring strikers can convert effortlessly?
Our other problem is conceding goals and Sandro is hence vital to the team, especially almost every defenders are out injured.

Do you even read my post before jumping on your mouse and hitting the quote button?

Read it again and realise yourself what I'm on about. It's not hard really to read more than an opening sentence to a paragraph, especially when you've bolded right up to the part that's important. :roll:
 
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