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Sam Kerr

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Jul 16, 2004
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the video makes it even worse, she is a massive twat, the video is really bad she says it twice and calls him an idiot a 3rd time

she is also massively disrespectful, I hope the cab driver gets compensation it must be shit when someones sick in your cab
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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I shall await the remorseful social media post before she launches her redemption by joining this years I’m A Racist Get Me Out Of Jail
 

LannerSpurs

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"They felt that the taxi driver was kidnapping them, and so they broke the rear window in order to escape and raise the alarm.

Open the fucking door ya stupid tart
 

Atomic Blonde

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Judging by some of the unsympathetic comments on here , it seems like people aren't aware of all the details of this case.
Kerr and her partner were in a taxi which was was supposed to take them home after a night out, Kerr said she vomited outside through the window after which the taxi driver became aggressive, locked the doors of the taxi and drove them in an unfamiliar direction for an extended period of time.

I don't think some people understand how terrifying it is to be a woman in a taxi and they suddenly stop driving you home, in a direction you don't know, even if they tell you where they're taking you. I"d be downright petrified.

They stated that they were begging the driver to be let out but he refused and they couldn't get out as the doors were locked from the inside, so Sam's partner kicked the rear window in order to get out.
The women told police officers the taxi driver had been 'acting in crazy way' by driving very fast, stopping and speeding up again, locking them in the car and refusing to let them go.

This is an extract from court evidence when she was telling the police how terrified they were and offering to pay the taxi driver 'whatever they want if they let us out' yet the officer refused to take them seriously :-




Kerr also told the officer they were so fearful that she called emergency services from the taxi but despite all this the officer involved has admitted to already making his mind up to arrest the women and didn't even speak to the taxi driver, instead relying on his colleague's word.
Kerr was obviously in the wrong for the way she went about expressing her frustration with the officer but, as she explained, her calling him 'stupid and white' was her way of saying 'you as a white man could never have understood how scary that was for us'. She was clearly attempting, in a drunk, clumsy way to express the power imbalance between them rather than a racially aggravated slur.

In addition to all this, Kerr went back voluntarily to the police station the next day without a lawyer, to formally apologise.

This thread gives more details about the unprofessional behaviour of the officer involved and what Kerr said in her apology here:-



Interestingly, in his original statement, PC Lovell made no mention or her abuse having an impact on him. It was only added in his second statement 11 months later after he requested a review of the CPS's decision not to take the case to trial.

As I said, I don't condone her behaviour but the context makes it much more understandable and, added to the fact that she was immediately contrite about it and had paid damages to the taxi driver straight after the incident, then it seems astonishing that this case was brought to trial in the first place. Honestly, I'm more annoyed about the waste of a substantial amount of I taxpayers money bringing cases like this to trial when I constantly read about so many more serious violent or sexual offences that are reported which never make it to trial, in many cases due to police not taking them seriously.
 

Veuve Clicquot

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"They felt that the taxi driver was kidnapping them, and so they broke the rear window in order to escape and raise the alarm.

Open the fucking door ya stupid tart
Pretty ignorant and sick comment considering by all accounts the taxi driver had a) locked the doors from the inside and b) more importantly, there are numerous well documented cases of women being raped/murdered by taxi drivers and even supposedly 'safe' police officers.
Ironically it proves the point Sam Kerr was trying to make.
 

Albertbarich

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I don’t care about this woman either way but a point to those wanting to be offended or angry about what she said.

Our very own Ledley once said a racial slur to a white person when drunk. It’s not right and hopefully she thinks better of it in future but people mess up, especially when drunk and just like it didn’t ruin Ledleys career I hope it doesn’t ruin this persons.
 

Gb160

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As I said, I don't condone her behaviour but the context makes it much more understandable
It really doesn't. She's sat in a police station, clearly not under any form of duress, making racist comments.
She's a fucking moron.
 

Yid-ol

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Jan 16, 2006
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It really doesn't. She's sat in a police station, clearly not under any form of duress, making racist comments.
She's a fucking moron.

It's only her version of the events, the taxi drivers is different.

If he is lying, I can understand kicking in the window, but not the rest. If he is telling the true then people will use this to not believe other women who have been in this situation, and making it worse for them. So for other women who have or could being n this situation, I hope she is telling the truth. Hopefully we find out soon anyway.
 

TheHodFather

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It really doesn't. She's sat in a police station, clearly not under any form of duress, making racist comments.
She's a fucking moron.
Yeah even if you believe her version of events, and believe that she was trying to explain that the policeman wouldn't be able to understand their fear in that situation as he wasn't a woman, the fact that the officer was white was completely irrelevant. It's just a straightforward racist comment.
 

chas vs dave

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She cant remember making racist comments, but can remember exactly what happened earlier in the taxi? 🤔

Not sure who is at fault, it could be that both parties are in the wrong.
 

McFlash

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It really doesn't. She's sat in a police station, clearly not under any form of duress, making racist comments.
She's a fucking moron.
To be fair, she's probably getting even more stressed in the police station.
Her hackles were already up and it sounds like the copper had already made his mind up about them, so with drink involved I can completely understand her not suddenly calming down as you suggest she should.

I've had a few dealing with the police and while some of them can be brilliant, some are complete arseholes and it's like trying to talk to a brick wall.
Trust me, when you're getting treated like a criminal and you know you've done nothing wrong, it's not easy to stay calm when you're sober, let alone drunk and emotional.

We don't know the truth of what happened (although surely the cab had a camera in it?) but it's too easy to sit here and say they should have done this, should have done that.
It's not always so clear and easy in the heat of the moment.
 

Gb160

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To be fair, she's probably getting even more stressed in the police station.
Stressed? Have you seen the video?

Im just referring to her behaviour in the nick, I don't think there's any context where it can be even argued that making racist comments is 'understandable'.
 

McFlash

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Stressed? Have you seen the video?

Im just referring to her behaviour in the nick, I don't think there's any context where it can be even argued that making racist comments is 'understandable'.
To be honest, no, I haven't watched the video but being stressed doesn't always mean screaming and shouting, it can manifest in different ways.

And I'm not excusing her using a racial slur, that's wrong no matter what.

I don't think it's right to be calling her a "stupid tart" and suchlike based on a situation that we don't know that much about, it's still very "he say, she say" from what I can tell.

It does sound like the officer is trying to make more out of this though.
A nice bit of compensation maybe?
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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To be honest, no, I haven't watched the video but being stressed doesn't always mean screaming and shouting, it can manifest in different ways.

And I'm not excusing her using a racial slur, that's wrong no matter what.

I don't think it's right to be calling her a "stupid tart" and suchlike based on a situation that we don't know that much about, it's still very "he say, she say" from what I can tell.

It does sound like the officer is trying to make more out of this though.
A nice bit of compensation maybe?
I think stupid tart is a very poor choice of words in any situation, we've moved on from phrases like that being an acceptable thing to call a woman.

Calling her a moron, idiot, stupid whatever that's your opinion. Adding tart is unnecessarily derogatory.
 
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