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Tit&Ham

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Youtube him looks an immense prospect tall and can finish and good dribbler and deceptively quick!
Youtube lies...

Decent hold-up man with no pace, no technique and no nothing to make it the PL...

He could maybe do okay in netherland
 

'O Zio

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No, just think it's funny that you talk as if Zaha and Richarlison are N'koudou/N'jie levels of tripe. Not really sure there are many players of a higher level that are either affordable for us or would be willing to come

Nobody knows what Richarlison's level is, that's the point. He had a good couple of months for Watford, but there are hundreds of players across Europe who have a purple patch for 6 months and then fade into obscurity. He may well turn out to be the best player in history, I've no idea, but I don't see how you can sit there and definitively say he's better than GKN when we've not had anything like a big enough sample size. Arguably you could say the same about GKN too. He hasn't had a proper run in the PL so we can't say definitively that he's "tripe" either, as you put it.
 

mckenz

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Lots of MOTD players I can think of have been flavour of the month

Ighalo, Gabiadinni and Michu come to mind... great for 6 months but probably not worth the 30+million chance to find out they are aint that hot

He could be great, but how much would it cost to find out?
 

eddiev14

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Lots of MOTD players I can think of have been flavour of the month

Ighalo, Gabiadinni and Michu come to mind... great for 6 months but probably not worth the 30+million chance to find out they are aint that hot

He could be great, but how much would it cost to find out?

Josh King was last season’s key one linked with us. Utter shite this season.
 

rossdapep

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I actually went to see a Fluminense game and whilst I remember him playing I don't recall him doing too much to stand out.

Having said that, he was spoken about very highly by the media and was always amongst the weekends highlights. He's not your traditional Brazilian in the sense that he wants to party when not playing (like Neymar). He's more like Jesus in the way that he continuously works hard and has more focus, can imagine that's something Poch will like about him.

He's got a lot of room for improvement but I do believe that he has a lot of what we are looking for. Him and Malcom are two that I'm keen on.
Thanks for that @sammyj
 

BringBack_leGin

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Not convinced by him. We had a player with more skill, flair, but also end product in Nacer Chadli. If he wasn’t good enough, and he probably wasn’t, then I can’t imagine Richarlison is. Seems mainly to be an athlete with a little bit of skill and not much end product.
 

Cravenspurs

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Not convinced by him. We had a player with more skill, flair, but also end product in Nacer Chadli. If he wasn’t good enough, and he probably wasn’t, then I can’t imagine Richarlison is. Seems mainly to be an athlete with a little bit of skill and not much end product.

My issue with Chadli was desire. He had all the tools in his locker to be a decent 15 goals in all comps type of player year in and year out, but sometimes you couldn't motivate him to put in a shift.

Every time I have seen Richarlison play (10+ this year as Watford are a team I enjoy), I have yet to see him lack intention and drive. I can see some of the physical comparisons, but what has made Kane the player he is, is the never say die attitude and for me Richarlison has that desire in him.
 

BringBack_leGin

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My issue with Chadli was desire. He had all the tools in his locker to be a decent 15 goals in all comps type of player year in and year out, but sometimes you couldn't motivate him to put in a shift.

Every time I have seen Richarlison play (10+ this year as Watford are a team I enjoy), I have yet to see him lack intention and drive. I can see some of the physical comparisons, but what has made Kane the player he is, is the never say die attitude and for me Richarlison has that desire in him.
I don’t disagree with your assessment of either, but Kane also has, you could see this when he was a teenager, fantastic awareness and intelligence. He’s also always had great technique.

You can get so far with attitude and desire, it’s half the battle, but Michael Brown had this in abundance too. Yes, Richarlison is much better than Michael Brown, but I still don’t see the flair or skill to give him a realistic chance of competing with Eriksen, Dele, Son and Lamela.
 

fletch82

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I don’t disagree with your assessment of either, but Kane also has, you could see this when he was a teenager, fantastic awareness and intelligence. He’s also always had great technique.

You can get so far with attitude and desire, it’s half the battle, but Michael Brown had this in abundance too. Yes, Richarlison is much better than Michael Brown, but I still don’t see the flair or skill to give him a realistic chance of competing with Eriksen, Dele, Son and Lamela.

I agree
The problem as I see it is Eriksen, dele, son, and Lamela are all high quality players but just below that world class bracket therfore for any player coming in to challenge them needs to be as good or better or have that completely different skillset ie: amazing dribbler, passer or lightning quick all of the players like that are either at the top clubs already or are being stockpiled by mancashter citeh.
I personally don' think richarlison* is the answer and do not know who is but chances are we would be taking a punt either way.
I just can' see us paying the money it would take to buy a superstar player or the wages it seems like tge club are between a rock and a hard place almost seems impossible :(
 

Real_madyidd

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I don’t disagree with your assessment of either, but Kane also has, you could see this when he was a teenager, fantastic awareness and intelligence. He’s also always had great technique.
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I could not see this at all, and I think you are in a minority if you could. I watched Kane a few times whilst out on loan and honestly would never have guessed that he would do what he has. I am delighted to have not had a clue- gives me hope for all of our other players.
 

fecka

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I could not see this at all, and I think you are in a minority if you could. I watched Kane a few times whilst out on loan and honestly would never have guessed that he would do what he has. I am delighted to have not had a clue- gives me hope for all of our other players.

I agree that not many would have thought he'd become this good but his assessment of people seeing Kane's intelligence, awareness, technique and attitude are correct and he was seen as a really good prospect for a long time.
 
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He’s not worth what we’d have to pay to get him here. Watford would bend us over as Palace did with Zaha. There are better more talented players available for the price we’d have to pay. Pass for me.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I could not see this at all, and I think you are in a minority if you could. I watched Kane a few times whilst out on loan and honestly would never have guessed that he would do what he has. I am delighted to have not had a clue- gives me hope for all of our other players.

Just so you know I’m not bullshitting :)

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/spot-the-playmaker.112781/page-2#post-4271084

Harry Kane has played as an attacking midfielder in his career as much as he's played as a number 9. He has a bit of vision and can play a good pass, links well with midfield and scores goals. He may not be VDV, but there's a reason he gets compared to Sheringham in his style so much. Last night was not desperation, it was actually a good decision and Harry justified it by being by far our best outfield player.

I personally think, and I was watching him as a kid years back, he's just as likely to be a number 10 as he is a number 9.
 

mill

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He’s not worth what we’d have to pay to get him here. Watford would bend us over as Palace did with Zaha. There are better more talented players available for the price we’d have to pay. Pass for me.

Does make me wonder why we even bother chase pl players unless they’ve an expiring contract or a reasonable release clause, we’ve no interest paying the fees that clubs want
 

tiger666

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Does make me wonder why we even bother chase pl players unless they’ve an expiring contract or a reasonable release clause, we’ve no interest paying the fees that clubs want

I'm not sure we are chasing him as such, just keeping en eye like a lot of clubs I would imagine.
 
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Does make me wonder why we even bother chase pl players unless they’ve an expiring contract or a reasonable release clause, we’ve no interest paying the fees that clubs want
I think you’ll see us do a lot less business with Premier League clubs in the future than we have in the past. With the new TV contract and every team in the league flush with cash, transfer fees between league teams have become outrageous. Van Dijk is a perfect example of that. He’s a really good player, may even become a great one, but £75 mil for him is ridiculous. He’s not worth that and is an enormous risk at that price.
 

mill

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I think you’ll see us do a lot less business with Premier League clubs in the future than we have in the past. With the new TV contract and every team in the league flush with cash, transfer fees between league teams have become outrageous. Van Dijk is a perfect example of that. He’s a really good player, may even become a great one, but £75 mil for him is ridiculous. He’s not worth that and is an enormous risk at that price.

Developing our own is what we need to do
 

cliff jones

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Still like him even if he has gone off the boil- let's face it their whole team has.

We do need one more attacker either now or in the summer, but ideally this player will have that ability to create and score through the parked bus. I like Kagawa's intelligence.
 

HarrysBungs

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Lots of MOTD players I can think of have been flavour of the month

Ighalo, Gabiadinni and Michu come to mind... great for 6 months but probably not worth the 30+million chance to find out they are aint that hot

He could be great, but how much would it cost to find out?
Soldado????
Every transfer is a risk unless you are buying proven talent, the top, top players. Some players are also more suited to different styles of football/leagues, just look at Paulinho now. As with all transfer rumours, there's no smoke without fire so there must be something in the links. Let's just stick to our day jobs and leave the talent spotting to those who know what they're talking about
 

L-man

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Gone quiet on him in the press but wonder if he’s looking to leave.
We might have an eye on it

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