Removal of transfer fees suggested

[Hakkz]

I don't understand the changes completely. Link to the article below.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/18/fifpro-transfer-fees-could-go-fifa-brussels

 

[talkshowhost86]

All sounds very well intentioned, but if you get rid of transfer fees, won't players just end up on absolutely insane contracts?

Also the part about buying out your contract is all well and good for the top players, but how would that work lower down the leagues? Presumably players would be reliant on a club who wants them funding their buying out of the contract which sounds potentially dubious.

When you think about it though, the concept of transfer fees is a very odd one and I can certainly see it coming a cropper of the freedom of movement legislation.

 

[teok]

Yeah I think there are some excellent ideas in there, but I'm unsure about how it would all play out. Some body has to stop fucking chelsea hoarding players and abusing the loan system though.

 

[whitesocks]

In principle the current transfer system has echoes of slavery.
A player's career is short and if they want to move club then like an employee they should be able to do that relatively quickly and without severe financial penalties.
There would have to be a mechanism to reward clubs that have trained players in the first place, but that sounds like a good idea for any company as they all run the risk that the employee resigns as soon as they have been trained.

 

[dontcallme]

I'm personally against the current transfer fee system.

I feel a player should be relatively free to move to a different club if they wish. It would allow players to join new clubs at the beginning of the transfer window which is vital to their performance.

Naturally there would be problems, especially for smaller clubs reliant on transfers fees for funding so what system is put in place is beyond me.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Player contracts are assets of the club. Not sure how you acquire those contract rights cheaply...

 

[Misfit]

I could live with no transfer fees if the contracts players then signed with clubs were fully protected. The clubs need some protection though. No signing a 5 year contract and suddenly after a couple of years if the team isn't doing as well as the individual player expected and he starts acting up.

Imagine the wages some players would be on though? Messi and CRoaldo types on a million a week easy.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

I've been saying for years that the current transfer system was essentially illegal.

In the Bosman case, AG Lenz said that a transfer fee would only be compatible with EU law if it represented compensation for a club's training and developing of a player. However he also said that a club is in many ways compensated in training and developing a player by improved performances on the pitch and developing and training a player was in a club's own interests.

For example, do we think West Brom spent £25m on training and developing Saido Berahino? Absolutely no way.

Basically, Berahino had an offer of employment and according to EU law he should be free to accept that as a worker within the EU and to travel freely within the EU for that purpose.

West Brom releasing a statement announcing they were not interested in selling him and will not be entertaining any offers, is a breach of the law and as noted by the poster above, it reduces a footballer to the level of a slave.

 

[Misfit]

I would also actually really like to see the loan system brought in. No doubt we'd suffer a little ourselves with our push wrt the academy but clubs having as many players out on loan as they do in their season squads means that all the talent is hoarded at 3 or 4 clubs in the bigger leagues and 1 or 2 in the smaller leagues. It dilutes the entire competition and means a huge amount of talent that would really help other clubs is left to rot largely.

 

[Misfit]

I also echo the compensation for club trained players. It would still fund the clubs adequately for all the resources they have sent on training players etc.

 

[chaching]

The issue I have with this is all the money will just go straight to the players and then there is no benefit for a club to develop its own players

 

[Misfit]

Or could this be a Machiavellian prelude to a European league where the teams all sign up to the specific comps rules and instead of transfers we get player trades? Domestic leagues essentially becoming the minors, only there to help train players until they get the call up to the big leagues?

I dunno. I just have trust issues with the footballing authorities.

 

[Misfit]

The issue I have with this is all the money will just go straight to the players and then there is no benefit for a club to develop its own players

Good point. Maybe they could put in agreed amounts of say an X%. Say if a Real Madrid are interested in the player instead or Bamber Bridge FC are interested in the player they would recieve X% of their revenue. So hopefully the more talented the plyer is in question, the bigger the team interested in offering him a contract is and so the bigger the compensation the original club gets?

 

[nailsy]

I'm personally against the current transfer fee system.

I feel a player should be relatively free to move to a different club if they wish. It would allow players to join new clubs at the beginning of the transfer window which is vital to their performance.

Naturally there would be problems, especially for smaller clubs reliant on transfers fees for funding so what system is put in place is beyond me.

Could players be made to pay a certain percentage of their wages to their developing club after a move to another club? Kind of like a development tax for players

 

[Misfit]

Good point. Maybe they could put in agreed amounts of say an X%. Say if a Real Madrid are interested in the player instead or Bamber Bridge FC are interested in the player they would recieve X% of their revenue. So hopefully the more talented the plyer is in question, the bigger the team interested in offering him a contract is and so the bigger the compensation the original club gets?

Replying to myself here but that is essentially a transfer fee anyways. This poster is a right knobhead.

 

[dontcallme]

The issue I have with this is all the money will just go straight to the players and then there is no benefit for a club to develop its own players

The system would definitely need a lot of work. Not sure how they could do it.

 

[Misfit]

Could players be made to pay a certain percentage of their wages to their developing club after a move to another club? Kind of like a development tax for players

That's a more sensible idea. Works on the same principle as my idea. The higher the wages, the more money the club gets so if they help produce a worldy, they get adequate comp.

 

[nailsy]

That's a more sensible idea. Works on the same principle as my idea. The higher the wages, the more money the club gets so if they help produce a worldy, they get adequate comp.

If players are willing to pay an agent 5% then it makes sense that they should do the same for their club.

 

[dontcallme]

Could players be made to pay a certain percentage of their wages to their developing club after a move to another club? Kind of like a development tax for players

I don't think so. If a player leaves one League 2 club to another their wages won't be high but it should be the players right to go to a different club.

Maybe a simple set fee for players so every club knows how much the player will cost would solve a lot of the issues which are stopping players from concentrating on their game.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Anything that might reduce the cash that agents take from getting players moved from one club to another is worth taking seriously.

Contracts would get shorter though. So it wouldn't necessarily mean fewer transfers, but it might cut out a lot of the nonsense posturing shenanigans that goes on.

Anyway, if there's a way of fucking up Chelsea, I hope they find it.