Real Madrid 'partnership'..

[Shanks]

I'm not sure if there has been a thread on this, so apologies if I am repeating old words here, but I have a query over the Real Madrid partnership that was announced just before Modric left us for them in the summer.

Firstly, did the announcement only take place for propoganda reasons itself?
Was it simply to cushion the loss of Modric, so us fans would be happy that we might be getting something in return out of this deal?

Recent ITK saying that a deal is in place between Real Madrid and Bale now, with one person coming to us on loan.

Again, seems like it's not really a partnership, and doesn't really benefit Spurs in terms of playing staff, so wondering what the partnership was all about.

Some of the benefits that I have found:

• Commercial tie-ups between the clubs which may include tours, franchises and marketing
• Friendlies in pre-season which could be hugely lucrative for Spurs
• Options on loaning players and having the first refusal to buy certain players
• Coaching tie-ups which may see youngsters go on summer camps and exchanges

First refusal on some players?
Those that are shit, or the players that are actually decent but can't get enough game time?

Doesn't seem like much of a partnership, but more of a USA/UK relationship, with Spurs being the UK part of the relationship.

 

[Mr-T]

My boy did a one-day THFC skills training camp in the summer. One of the coaches teaching the kids was from Real Madrid.

Was quite good, he was teaching the kids tricks he'd seen directly from Zidane, Figo etc.

Not sure if its worth losing Bale for though...

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

My boy did a one-day THFC skills training camp in the summer. One of the coaches teaching the kids was from Real Madrid.

Was quite good, he was teaching the kids tricks he'd seen directly from Zidane, Figo etc.

Not sure if its worth losing Bale for though...

What tricks like how to aim the perfect headbutt to the chest

 

[Strikeb4ck]

The first refusal option could be very important at some point/with some players because Madrid are always going to be a club spoiled for riches...

 

[Dougal]

I think you can get one of those half and half scarves now. Totally worth it.

 

[HodisGawd]

At the time I was a bit surprised we didn't get Granero as part of the deal. Seems less surprising now though. Does seem like just a PR thing. If it was real we'd be linked with every Real player going, wouldn't we? Thing is, I guess, clubs don't really have much of a say where players go so tie-ups like this are never going to mean much except for youth players who are far too young to play (and why would a youth player come to us when he could be in their academy?).

 

[panoma]

My boy did a one-day THFC skills training camp in the summer. One of the coaches teaching the kids was from Real Madrid.

Was quite good, he was teaching the kids tricks he'd seen directly from Zidane, Figo etc.

Not sure if its worth losing Bale for though...

But thats the thing though, its not like players only gets sold if there is some partnership in the picture? If Madrid sold Ronaldo and wanted Bale as his replacement he would be going regardless of any partnership, if he want to go and they are prepared to pay Daniels price that is.

We should know better than anyone that partnerships doesnt mean someone ships their best players to the other team (Leando Damiao)

Think this is more for commercial reasons, exchange ideas, friendlies etch.

 

[3Dnata]

I'm not really expecting anything that won't involve a subscription to Preparation H after all big fish get big by eating little fish.

 

[beats1]

As said in the other thread, I am pretty sure that we do have first refusal on players at Inter problem is we have to match that bid, now if the other team decides to bid higher and then higher and then higher, well then a firs refusal is not great but it does help the other club in the partnership and even us to certain extent

For example Oscar was for sale at the beginning of window and seemed he was coming to us, the inter president said was in negotiation with us for Oscar and even said on radio in brazil he would not accept less €18million for Oscar iirc, yet less than month later, Chelsea signed him for his transfer release clause of £25.8million and this was before the olympics. So either they have the worst negotiator in the world or they bid a price that we were no longer willing to pay and coincidently this figure is just higher than the fee for our top target Moutinho. So it says to me we pushed them up by £10million which helped inter tbh

Real Madrid probably have first option on our players but that doesnt mean they are going there and we probably have first option on their players but we know most of them will never come (the good ones anyway) but what should be interesting is this summer Higuain is set to leave so this relationship will be tested

 

[DIEHARD]

There is no partnership

We are basically fuck buddies except we cant fuck them - they decide when they wanna fuck us. First was Modric, then Bale, then Sandro and then Lloris

 

[CJMurray]

There is no partnership

We are basically fuck buddies except we cant fuck them - they decide when they wanna fuck us. First was Modric, then Bale, then Sandro and then Lloris

I assume you've read the contract then, yes?

 

[DIEHARD]

I assume you've read the contract then, yes?

Read it? I fuckin devised it

 

[SugarRay]

Why do people get so uppity about this partnership?

'All it means is we can buy the players they don't want etc...we won't get top players off them etc'

Er, I will take all the VDV's they no longer want or feel they need ta very much! Nobody gets the players they want off them, they are the biggest club in the world and that ain't changing anytime soon.

As for them buying our best? If our players are that good they would come in for them regardless of the link up. Every club loses players to Madrid.

Are those annoyed by the deal suggesting we are on a similar level to them then? If so, well, that's a touch strange. I guess we only need about 25 more league title to our name and half a dozen European cups too before we can start comparing ourselves to them on a similar level! Looking at our history that should only take us about a 1,000 years I reckon!

 

[CJMurray]

Why do people get so uppity about this partnership?

'All it means is we can buy the players they don't want etc...we won't get top players off them etc'

Er, I will take all the VDV's they no longer want or feel they need ta very much! Nobody gets the players they want off them, they are the biggest club in the world and that ain't changing anytime soon.

As for them buying our best? If our players are that good they would come in for them regardless of the link up. Every club loses players to Madrid.

Are those annoyed by the deal suggesting we are on a similar level to them then? If so, well, that's a touch strange. I guess we only need about 25 more league title to our name and half a dozen European cups too before we can start comparing ourselves to them on a similar level! Looking at our history that should only take us about a 1,000 years I reckon!

Totally agree. I'd rather lose our top players to Madrid then United/Chelsea/City.

 

[Cornishlilywhite]

Why do people get so uppity about this partnership?

'All it means is we can buy the players they don't want etc...we won't get top players off them etc'

Er, I will take all the VDV's they no longer want or feel they need ta very much! Nobody gets the players they want off them, they are the biggest club in the world and that ain't changing anytime soon.

As for them buying our best? If our players are that good they would come in for them regardless of the link up. Every club loses players to Madrid.

Are those annoyed by the deal suggesting we are on a similar level to them then? If so, well, that's a touch strange. I guess we only need about 25 more league title to our name and half a dozen European cups too before we can start comparing ourselves to them on a similar level! Looking at our history that should only take us about a 1,000 years I reckon!

1, 000, Is that all. I cant frigging wait

 

[Syn_13]

Totally agree. I'd rather lose our top players to Madrid then United/Chelsea/City.

I think that's the point. It's a smart move by Levy. Real and Barca are the only 2 clubs in the world that I would be ok with our player going to. They're not in our league so we won't have to play against them regularly, and they're also not in our league in the other sense! Player power is immense nowadays and if they're itching to win trophies on a regular basis then it might as well be Real. They're more likely to stump up the over-inflated fees that Levy will slap on our big players (fair enough too considering their worth to us).

And who knows? As SugarRay said, we might get a cut price VDV-level player out of it. Not gonna turn that down.

 

[StartingPrice]

I really don't know all the ins-and-outs, and until I got to the second half of the page I was feeling like a distinct minority, because my take on it is simple:
Real needed to push the Modric deal through, and it was Levy pushing for this, and that means that when it went through it was because Levy wanted it and Real had to be accommodating so it should be weighted to our advantage. I have enough faith in Levy's competence, especially when it comes to things like this to not believe that the sole constituent of the deal was that Real can cherry-pick our best players and we will get no benefits from it.

I have just read the ITK and having argued against the notion that Bale was somehow automatically destined to join Madrid in the Summer, it would be fair to say it is somewhat disappointing if true. But that doesn't affect my overall interpretation - Levy would not push for this, and be in a position to get it through on terms advantageous to us, and then just sign an agreement that says "We get Bale and whoever the feck else we want...occasionally, we'll chuck you a bone."

What I think is far more likely, is this: we sold United Carrick and then Berbatov, but we strengthened by the hefty fees we charged and it has put us in a position where we haven't had to automatically roll over for United now when they want a player, but, instead, are beginning to look like a serious long-term threat to them. We have a new stadium under development and a state-of-the-art training ground, plus, among other initiatives, these strategic club relationships, as part of our exciting youth product development (to use the lingo). I can feasibly see Levy selling a few players to Real them for absolutely everything he can, including, but not inclusive to, financial emoluments, and using it to put us into a position where we have a spanking new stadium, regular CL qualification, exciting youth product, and don't have to endlessly roll over to them, like we know longer have to roll over to United at their beck and call.

Does that mean swallowing a few bitter pills - yeah, probably. I had hoped Modric would be the last. Does it mean we are putting ourselves into some permanent subordinate feeder-club roll to them for all of eternity. I don't think that is part of Levy's plan. Leastways, I hope it isn't

 

[tototoner]

How Madrid think the partnership works

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2...eet-tottenhams-asking-price-for-gareth-bale/?

Real Madrid would be able to meet Tottenham Hotspur’s asking price for Gareth Bale, according to former Los Blancos president Ramón Calderón.

The Wales international scored twice in Spurs’s 3-2 victory over West Ham United on Monday night, including a sensational 90th-minute winner .

The 23-year-old’s tally now stands at 15 goals in 23 Premier League appearances after having scored six goals in five successive league games, and prompting renewed speculation about Bale’s future.

The Southampton youth graduate was linked with a move to Barcelona and Real Madrid last summer, and Calderón believes that the nine-time European champions would be interested in signing the winger.

“He’s a fantastic player . He’s one of those players that you would always like to have in your team – no doubt,” Calderón told TalkSport.

“It’s true that Real Madrid have spent a lot of money in the last two or three years, but we are in a position to pay the money that Tottenham will ask for.

“Not any amount of money, there are always limits in a sense, but Real Madrid have a very healthy economic situation so I think they could sign him.”

If Bale joined Madrid, he would be following in the footsteps of his former Spurs team-mate Luka Modric who completed a £33m move to the Bernabeu last summer

 

[Pete Spur]

well our partnership with Internacional didn't do us much good after Sandro so I wouldn't worry about it

 

[C-oops]

I asked JJ last night on twitter about the "done deal" he said in the summer he had a feeling had already been done. He said wouldn't answer that now.