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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Toby

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Verts

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Winks

    Votes: 117 66.1%
  • Ndombele

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Dele

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 6 3.4%
  • Moura

    Votes: 15 8.5%
  • Kane

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Son

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 4 2.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 10 5.6%
  • None Deserved

    Votes: 14 7.9%

  • Total voters
    177

kaz Hirai

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Nov 5, 2008
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Being as cool minded as possible

Lloris 5 - he is captain, could do with organising the lot Infront better, especially Sanchez. Looses a point for shakey butter finger moments

Sanchez 2 - he isn't a right back, it's an unfair rating but it's how it is. Positionally terrible giving up acres of space they exploited all night. Didn't have any ability to make attacking runs, passes, or crosses. Provided no width, doesn't have the energy to get up and down for 60 let alone 90 . All of it not his fault though , such a terrible bit of management. If you want to give him minutes then drop Toby or play a back 3

Vertonghen 4 - surprisingly shakey and unable to deal with their admittedly quick thinking around the area . Poor on pen, should know better by now

Toby 7 - ok really, surrounded by clowns, had to cover right back often

Davies 4- not the game for him, murdered by pace and quick movement . Worst possible set of fullbacks for this match in hindsight having never seen olympiacos play style this year


Winks 7 - typical winks performance, kept the ball moving, solid but not great defensively as is the case.
NDombele 5 - poor mostly , looks like he needs 18 months eating lean chicken breasts , brown rice and doing 5 hours of cardio per day


Lucas 5 good goal but zero involvement outside of scoring, just vanishes in a cloud of purple smoke. Like a not as good Aubameyang

Kane 4- MEH
Dele 2 - Mamma Mia! :unsure:
Eriksen 1- Yowie Wowie he was bad! :facepalm:

Sissoko 5
Son 5
Lamela 6

Don't think we'll be caught cold like that against them in the home leg . Think we went to the "minnows" all big bollox playing with our runners up medal round our necks
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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Some total sh*t out there, but frankly hardly different to 75% of the performances we've seen since the turn of the year.

No movement up front. Shaky in defense. A lack of creativity in the middle. Slow.

I really don't know what to make of how we (predominantly - there have obviously been good games) have played for really quite some time now. It's definitely worrying.

Against a better team we get murdered tonight. I'm really hoping (1) we figure out a system and team that works for the current squad; and (2) get GLC back as soon as possible.

(2) is such a priority now because Eriksen has checked out. He was woeful tonight
 

McFlash

In the corner, eating crayons.
Oct 19, 2005
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Only listened to it on the radio, so it's hard to give any form of rating.
Although, saying that, I think Winks did well and Eriksen was appalling.
We all know that Sanchez is NOT a right back, and has never shown anything to suggest that he could be, so I dont understand why Poch is trying to persist with it now.

Poch seems to be creating more questions, than he is providing us with any answers.
 

shoggy33

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Feb 25, 2007
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Eriksen - that has to be one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a supposedly top class player. He looked stoned. Kane and Dele were only marginally better. Our lack of movement up top really worries me. We know what our attacking players are capable of, so really you have to question the coaching and system that makes us look so utterly turgid at times. Didn't think Sanchez actually played that badly, just isn't a RB at the end of the day. Ndombele looks great on the ball, but have to admit I was expecting a lot more from him based on reputation. The games seem to be passing him by a bit. Hopefully he will find his feet as the season goes on. All in all that was pretty much our standard performance from the last year or so - slow and ponderous in attack, panicky at the back. Saturday showed what we are capable of so fingers crossed we see more of that going forward, if not then l can see this season turning pretty ugly for us.
 

BigVic

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Jul 16, 2015
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Winks MOTM by a mile. Eriksen played like he’d been on a 5 day cocaine bender, stunk the place out!
 

sparx100

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Jan 8, 2007
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Eriksen - that has to be one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a supposedly top class player. He looked stoned. Kane and Dele were only marginally better. Our lack of movement up top really worries me. We know what our attacking players are capable of, so really you have to question the coaching and system that makes us look so utterly turgid at times. Didn't think Sanchez actually played that badly, just isn't a RB at the end of the day. Ndombele looks great on the ball, but have to admit I was expecting a lot more from him based on reputation. The games seem to be passing him by a bit. Hopefully he will find his feet as the season goes on. All in all that was pretty much our standard performance from the last year or so - slow and ponderous in attack, panicky at the back. Saturday showed what we are capable of so fingers crossed we see more of that going forward, if not then l can see this season turning pretty ugly for us.
N'Dombele needs to be be in a 3. You are right - the game passed him by in the main. Expecting more from our record signing.
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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Eriksen played like he had a raging hangover.

Davies was chasing his man all night, it was only a matter of time until we were punished.

Everyone else was alright.

Disappointed we let them off the hook but not a terrible result.
 

John48

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Aug 31, 2015
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Winks was MoM, but that's not saying a lot, because even he wasn't great, but he worked hard & tried where as most were just wandering about on the pitch.
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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side side back back see people slating Sanchez again while Vertonghen gets away with such a poor performance.. anyway enough of the blame game that was all round a poor performance, we gave them so much time on the ball, our press was (fill in the blanks)----- our final ball was ---- our build up play was----. In the end a draw was a good result
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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N'Dombele needs to be be in a 3. You are right - the game passed him by in the main. Expecting more from our record signing.
Sorta agree that he wasn't awesome at all today. I think we are entitled to expect more from a player that was supposedly courted by the best teams in Europe. You'd think someone of that stature would show up strong in these types of games. Alas, he was off the pace by a yard or two. Doesn't look nearly as fit as those around him... which is a big worry.

Eriksen. Oy Vey. I don't know what he and his agent are smoking, but if they think the likes of Real, Barca, Juve and psg will be biting at the bit to sign him to a mahooosive contract over the summer, is kidding themselves. He consistently doesn't show up big in our biggest games. So, if I'm an opposing Coach considering him for my side... that would be a huge red flag. Very disappointed with how he played tonight and his attitude overall. Poch needs to have a word with him.
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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Winks/ Alders.........7..........Played somewhere near their normal standard.
Lloris..........................6...........A bit flappy
Verts and Davies...5...........Quick forwards make them look even slower than they actually are.
Kane...........................5...........Conserving energy for Saturday.
Dele/ Moura...........4............A few good things but so many poor things too
Ndombele...............4............Reminds me of Sissoko but not in a good way
Eriksen......................3............Awful tonight. Real Madrid for 50 million? No such luck.
Sanchez....................3............Failed his second audition for Right Back. Don't phone us.

Felt sorry for Poch having to watch that in close up.
Second half better but 2 goal leads given up in two of the last 3 games.
What happened to pace and positivity.Half hearted performance.
I think their pace and skill early on unnerved us
 
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buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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how did more than 4 per cent vote for Eriksen I don't know.
I know there are Eriksen lovers and that's OK but you must be honest with yourself if it was possible I would have gave him a minus percentage.
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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I also believe that Moura is an impact player capable of great things but over 90 minutes he just does not cut the mustard IMHO
 

bigpalacios

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Jun 7, 2009
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I remember one xmas a few years ago I went out on a Friday night with my pals and got absolutely smashed on beer, whisky , I didnt get in until 6am.
I then had to take my 6 year old son to his football training and I was still off my box. Due to the fact it was xmas the coach decided it was a good idea for the parents to have a 5 a side. My head was gone and I felt like I was being spun in a washing machine.
Anyway, Eriksens performance tonight brought back horrific flashbacks.
 

MichaelPawson

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Aug 22, 2013
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Don't think Eriksen was disengaged (I remember seeing him hustling to track back a few times), but he was undeniably very bad. Obviously can't get out of his own head right now, and I'm getting tired of waiting for that to happen.

Vertonghen was bad as well. Sanchez obviously isn't a RB, but seems like most of their threatening attacks targeted the other side. Can't remember Davies making any individual mistakes, but don't think he played particularly well either, and considering how everyone else played we needed better than anonymous from him.

Winks was very good though, and I think we saw a few very brief flashes of Old Kane tonight as well. Our press seemed stuttering but if we can get it working in the home fixture, we'll look much better than we did today.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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Lloris - 6
Sanchez - 4 - but not his fault as he is not a RB and should not be playing there.
Toby - 7 - Consistent.
Verts - 6 - Sloppy clumsy penalty.
Davies - 6.5 - Struggled at times against a tough opponent for his first start of the season.
Winks - 8 - Oee of only a few who looked like they cared or were proud to wear the shirt.
Ndombele - 6 - Still doesn't look fit, maybe it's his languid style.
Dele - 6 - Struggle to get into the game. Should have squared it to Kane for a tap in.
Eriksen - 3 - Never seem him have such a bad game. Everything was poor and he looked tired and disinterested.
Moura - 8 - Looked dangerous, fantastic goal, put himself about and was always looking to make something happen.
Kane - 7.5 - Won and scored the penalty. Should have had a hat trick if it wasn't for Dele and Lamela's lack of team play.

Sissoko - 7.5 - Would have preferred him to Ndombele with hnd-sight.
Lamela - 6.5 - Put effort in and tried to make things happen, but FFS square the ball!
Son - x - Not enough time to judge.

Poch - 3 - I really am questioning what he is doing. Players are not tired and fitness levels do not need to be managed just yet. And yet after our best performance for months, he leaves Rose and Aurier at home, KWP on the bench and plays Sanchez at RB!?! And he leaves Erisken on for the full 90 when he should have been hooked at HT. I am really concerned he is losing it as for the last 4 or 5 years he has been the best manager we've had in my lifetime and now he's turning into Santini.
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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Oct 17, 2006
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No Lamela, Son and Sissoko - says it all
And include Rose and Aurier and we win handsomely. We found the right formula (and rightly so imo) against Palace and then Poch goes and prove to me again that at times he doesn't have a clue with regards to game and match management.

One fucking game at a time. In other words play your in form players in the current game, the next game will take care of itself. Stop chop and changing and stop playing people out of position ( Sanchez). Playing the same in form players will bring consistency most of the time, and only should, most of the time, be changed when form dips or there is an injury.

To put things into perspective, an away score draw in the group stages against a team who has won five or six on the trot at home, without conceding a goal since March is a good point to have. But it could have and should have been 3 if Poch knew what he was doing. I have said it before, a very good coach and motivator, but his game management sucks!
 

coys200

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May 22, 2017
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Honestly don’t think Sanchez was as poor as people are making out. He wasn’t involved in either shambles of goals conceded. He’s clearly not a RB and offered very little going forward. But what he had to do defensively I thought he did ok. Vertonghen and Davies were much worse
 
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