Race for The Top 10

[13VanDerBale13]

We can't afford to drop any more points, thats the harsh reality & even then its not in our own hands

 

[TennesseeYid]

Wolves will be dropping points their remaining fixtures are rough.

 

[JCRD]

I still maintainw e dont get the best out of our players which means even if we got Bruno I dont think he would be performing as well for us as he is currently for Manure.

I personally didnt care if we got him or not because i never saw him but he is a bloody good intelligent footballer from what ive seen of him

He could very well be their VVD in the sense that they got him that changed things

 

[arunspurs]

Wolves will be dropping points their remaining fixtures are rough.

Wolves have just lost 6 games all season, 2nd only after Liverpool. Their losses have been to us (1), Liverpool (2) and 3 other top half team. I cant see them losing a game. Only hope is, they get some key injuries or fatigue and drop some points through draws.

I cant see it - given their season now has a definitive purpose of reaching top4 and are team on a mission.

 

[spursfan77]

We can't afford to drop any more points, thats the harsh reality & even then its not in our own hands

I still maintainw e dont get the best out of our players which means even if we got Bruno I dont think he would be performing as well for us as he is currently for Manure.

I personally didnt care if we got him or not because i never saw him but he is a bloody good intelligent footballer from what ive seen of him

He could very well be their VVD in the sense that they got him that changed things

The thing is, Mourinho told us that he had to tell the players during half time of the West Ham game, that if they didn’t up their performance and win, it would be the end of our CL chances.

Why did he have to remind them of that, are they that difficult to motivate and get a response out of?

If he’s going to have to remind them of that before and during each game I can’t see the players being capable of winning every game. Maybe they just aren’t as bothered as us?

 

[hellava_tough]

The thing is, Mourinho told us that he had to tell the players during half time of the West Ham game, that if they didn’t up their performance and win, it would be the end of our CL chances.

Why did he have to remind them of that, are they that difficult to motivate and get a response out of?

If he’s going to have to remind them of that before and during each game I can’t see the players being capable of winning every game. Maybe they just aren’t as bothered as us?

Perhaps that reflects on modern footballers, as opposed to specifically our footballers?

 

[spursfan77]

Perhaps that reflects on modern footballers, as opposed to specifically our footballers?

Im not sure, they’re all professional but are they driven enough or too comfortable to try that extra bit harder. It seems to be a theme with our players though, identified by both Poch and Mourinho in different ways.

 

[arunspurs]

Im not sure, they’re all professional but are they driven enough or too comfortable to try that extra bit harder. It seems to be a theme with our players though, identified by both Poch and Mourinho in different ways.

Lets not forget it was our first win since February. So confidence should have been at its lowest.
Measure of the players will be known this week (3 games in 6 days) on back of that win.

 

[hellava_tough]

Im not sure, they’re all professional but are they driven enough or too comfortable to try that extra bit harder. It seems to be a theme with our players though, identified by both Poch and Mourinho in different ways.

You make a good point, no doubt.

But in a league where Liverpool are 20+ points clear, without really being challenged this season, it doesn't look good on other players who are supposed to be professional.

 

[dagraham]

Im not sure, they’re all professional but are they driven enough or too comfortable to try that extra bit harder. It seems to be a theme with our players though, identified by both Poch and Mourinho in different ways.

I’ve said many times that players at Spurs are on a bit of an easy street. Even when we were good we had the constant drip, drip message from management, media and fans that we’re “punching above our weight” etc etc.

Now while it might be true, it soon becomes a subconscious get out clause for the players not doing the business imo.

You listen to the players being interviewed at Utd, Chelsea etc and they are under no illusion that losing big games and coming 2nd isn’t good enough.

 

[spursfan77]

I’ve said many times that players at Spurs are on a bit of an easy street. Even when we were good we had the constant drip, drip message from management, media and fans that we’re “punching above our weight” etc etc.

Now while it might be true, it soon becomes a subconscious get out clause for the players not doing the business imo.

You listen to the players being interviewed at Utd, Chelsea etc and they are under no illusion that losing big games and coming 2nd isn’t good enough.

If Mourinho cant change their mindset, then it's a real problem and one and you'd think we will never be able to change.

 

[dagraham]

If Mourinho cant change their mindset, then it's a real problem and one and you'd think we will never be able to change.

It’s why it’s important to win trophies, even if they are “lesser” honours. It should give good players the hunger to want more and it should give them confidence to know what’s required to get over the line. And foster a culture of winning.

 

[Japhet]

I don’t think he will. I think we should cut out losses, try and bring some money in from him and use it on 2/3 players to make us stronger. If we don’t do that this next window, with limited funds, then we will be in real trouble.

We'd get absolutely soaked if we sold Ndombele now. Players can often take a long time to settle (remember Lamela?) so IMO he'll get time. The question is whether Mourinho gives him the Pogba treatment which didn't get resolved until Mourinho got the boot. Luke Shaw is another one who's playing really well now that JM is gone.

 

[freeeki]

I actually feel more encouraged about our chances having seen how well Manchester United have played in their last couple of games.

I'll explain what I mean by that before the 'wtf' ratings flood in - in our "restart" fixture against Manchester United, the negativity on here was astounding. You'd think we'd just been turned over 6-0. The rationale seemed to be that United are shit, and therefore we should be sweeping them aside easily. In reality, as they've demonstrated since, United are far from shit, and are more than capable of bagging goals in a time where all team seem to be struggling to score - and therefore a 1-1 draw which would have been a win were it not for a sloppy penalty is a pretty solid result.

The game against West Ham could have and should have been won by a bigger margin, and were we more in the swing of things I think it would have been, but that was the second game in a row where we've not conceded from open play - a rarity for us this season.

On that basis I think we have a good chance of picking up more points than perhaps many of us expected between now and the end of the season. As the chasing club, our fate is largely in the hands of others dropping points, but I'm sure they will.

All we can do is go for as many points as we can, and on what we've seen thus far since the restart I think we can do it.

 

[homer hotspur]

I actually feel more encouraged about our chances having seen how well Manchester United have played in their last couple of games.

I'll explain what I mean by that before the 'wtf' ratings flood in - in our "restart" fixture against Manchester United, the negativity on here was astounding. You'd think we'd just been turned over 6-0. The rationale seemed to be that United are shit, and therefore we should be sweeping them aside easily. In reality, as they've demonstrated since, United are far from shit, and are more than capable of bagging goals in a time where all team seem to be struggling to score - and therefore a 1-1 draw which would have been a win were it not for a sloppy penalty is a pretty solid result.

The game against West Ham could have and should have been won by a bigger margin, and were we more in the swing of things I think it would have been, but that was the second game in a row where we've not conceded from open play - a rarity for us this season.

On that basis I think we have a good chance of picking up more points than perhaps many of us expected between now and the end of the season. As the chasing club, our fate is largely in the hands of others dropping points, but I'm sure they will.

All we can do is go for as many points as we can, and on what we've seen thus far since the restart I think we can do it.

Paddy power will give you 14/1 for that kind of optimism...........

 

[freeeki]

Paddy power will give you 14/1 for that kind of optimism...........

Or 16/1 on Betfair. Awesome.

I’ll take that.

 

[homer hotspur]

Or 16/1 on Betfair. Awesome.

I’ll take that.

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I will keep the stake money !

 

[WiganSpur]

I actually feel more encouraged about our chances having seen how well Manchester United have played in their last couple of games.

I'll explain what I mean by that before the 'wtf' ratings flood in - in our "restart" fixture against Manchester United, the negativity on here was astounding. You'd think we'd just been turned over 6-0. The rationale seemed to be that United are shit, and therefore we should be sweeping them aside easily. In reality, as they've demonstrated since, United are far from shit, and are more than capable of bagging goals in a time where all team seem to be struggling to score - and therefore a 1-1 draw which would have been a win were it not for a sloppy penalty is a pretty solid result.

The game against West Ham could have and should have been won by a bigger margin, and were we more in the swing of things I think it would have been, but that was the second game in a row where we've not conceded from open play - a rarity for us this season.

On that basis I think we have a good chance of picking up more points than perhaps many of us expected between now and the end of the season. As the chasing club, our fate is largely in the hands of others dropping points, but I'm sure they will.

All we can do is go for as many points as we can, and on what we've seen thus far since the restart I think we can do it.

If the whining posters on here at the time were coaching the team we'd have been in for a drubbing having been cut to shreds on the counter. Mourinho isn't daft, he'd have watched how well they were doing since Fernandes arrived and knew we couldn't just go all guns blazing, especially with a team that still needs to rebuild its confidence after a run of misfortune.

He's different to Poch. I'm not saying for better or worse, but he is a lot more flexible and strategic. He will go for matches when the conditions are right (eg. Spurs looking strong, opponents weaker, needing a win) but clearly although we needed a win he would have been acutely aware of how strong United are in certain areas.

 

[WiganSpur]

Posted on the other thread-
Utd will drop points against Leicester and West Ham. Wolves will drop points against Sheff Utd and Chelsea.

We won't drop any points.

United will drop points against West Ham? There's more chance of us having a transfer budget next season.

 

[homer hotspur]

United will drop points against West Ham? There's more chance of us having a transfer budget next season.

We won't drop any points is pretty unlikely too