Race for The Top 10

[dontcallme]

At this precise moment no, but let's see what happens in the transfer window before we become all doom and gloom.

Lol, I am far from all doom and gloom.

I think the squad is unbalanced right now and we need several signings. Signings generally take a while to settle in and find a place in the team.

So for next season I am happy for us to focus on less competitions.

 

[Mr Pink]

Yet Jose won the Europa League, League Cup and finished second with an average Utd team. You manage your squad properly and you can attack on all four fronts.

All in the same season??

 

[ILS]

Lol, I am far from all doom and gloom.

I think the squad is unbalanced right now and we need several signings. Signings generally take a while to settle in and find a place in the team.

So for next season I am happy for us to focus on less competitions.

In order; I would ask Spurs fans which competition out of the four including the Europa League do you think we would have the best chance of winning next season?

I would say the one without Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Utd so why disregard it over all the others? But that doesn't mean we don't go for the others.

All in the same season??

I admitted I got that wrong.

 

[Mr Pink]

In order; I would ask Spurs fans which competition out of the four including the Europa League do you think we would have the best chance of winning next season?

I would say the one without Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Utd so why disregard it over all the others? But that doesn't mean we don't go for the others.


I admitted I got that wrong.

Hadn't read further posts at time of reply, missed that.

 

[dontcallme]

In order; I would ask Spurs fans which competition out of the four including the Europa League do you think we would have the best chance of winning next season?

I would say the one without Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Utd so why disregard it over all the others? But that doesn't mean we don't go for the others.


I admitted I got that wrong.

I think Europa is the riskiest one.

 

[mr ashley]

Lol, I am far from all doom and gloom.

I think the squad is unbalanced right now and we need several signings. Signings generally take a while to settle in and find a place in the team.

So for next season I am happy for us to focus on less competitions.

That’s ok, but if we are going to sack off a competition or two to enable us to be successfully short term, then they should be the domestic cups. Play the youth team in the LC.
The squad needs to be physically ready to play twice a week, and used to the travel requirements (whatever they may be)
I’d prioritise in this order:
PL
EL (or CL)
FA
LC

 

[ILS]

I think Europa is the riskiest one.

Yes but the one with the most beautiful trophy?

 

[Shadydan]

Yes it does; as you said you can't put all your eggs in one basket with the Europa League. Jose did that towards the end of the season and won it , so finishing 6th in the league became irrelevant.

I'm not even a massive Jose fan but I understand him which clearly by writing of Europa League you don't.

No it doesn't, the argument put forward is whether EL participation weakens your domestic form, you've pointed out that Jose finished 2nd and won the EL in the same season where he in fact finished 6th because he had to prioritise and Utd's league form suffered as a result.

 

[Shadydan]

I'm also going to add Liverpool reached the Europa League Final which they lost but it helped build the foundations for them to grow. When Atletico Madrid bet Fulham in the Europa final it them helped build the platform for them to go on and win the league, reach two Champions league finals and a couple more EL.

I just do not get why we disregard this competition.

Funny you mention then, Liverpool finished 8th in the league when they reached the final, the very next season they finished top four with no European distraction.

 

[ILS]

No it doesn't, the argument put forward is whether EL participation weakens your domestic form, you've pointed out that Jose finished 2nd and won the EL in the same season where he in fact finished 6th because he had to prioritise and Utd's league form suffered as a result.

Harry Redknapp has brain washed you about this competition. The last time we were fully in the Europa League we challenged for the title and by the time our form dipped we were long out of the competition. I'm not saying it will or won't affect league form but you can still push for top four and do well in the Europa League just as Wolves and United are proving.

The two times Chelsea have won it they finished third. Did it affect there league position maybe; maybe not but it proves you can finish in the top four and win the EL.

 

[mpickard2087]

Our current 'not the first XI' players would be something like:

Gazza
Tanganga Toby Jan Sessegnon
Winks Skipp
Moura Ndombele Lamela
Vacancy...
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I think, realistically given the current climate (is why I left out Gedson above, not sure we'll turn the loan into 50 million for a raw youngster now), two probably three solid additions down the spine of the team - centre back to replace Jan, central midfielder, centre forward - and it's a reasonable line up. That doesn't use any of our 'best' players, any new signings might bump others down to this cup team, and you also have youngsters like Parrott, White, Cirkin etc. to blood as well potentially. But whoever is picked if we perform with the right attitude (this to me always seems the biggest issue....) and to their talent we are well able to negotiate the early rounds of cup competitions.

Someone like Kane for instance, I have said before really shouldn't be seen before the Last 16 of EL, Semi finals of the League Cup, and Quarters of the FA Cup. Do it right and a lot of players should be extremely well rested.

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And then it works both ways, if you want to bring some of the bigger hitters in for the latter stages, some of those listed above should be able to rotate into the league team and perform and get results.

You should be able to be competitive across four competitions, especially with the resources available to a PL club without hindering yourself. I go back to what I said, I think it's a good indicator of how your club is doing. There should be depth available (wider squad options plus academy prospects) that can step up. If there isn't, and you do struggle, then it shows your club isn't as well run as you think it is and you can be doing a lot better.

 

[Shadydan]

Harry Redknapp has brain washed you about this competition. The last time we were fully in the Europa League we challenged for the title and by the time our form dipped we were long out of the competition. I'm not saying it will or won't affect league form but you can still push for top four and do well in the Europa League just as Wolves and United are proving.

The two times Chelsea have won it they finished third. Did it affect there league position maybe; maybe not but it proves you can finish in the top four and win the EL.

No he hasn't, that's what you want to believe be my guest but I can assure you I haven't been 'brainwashed' these are entirely my own thoughts, thanks

I think you're getting confused, in 2016/17 we went out to Gent in the EL but we maintained our challenge for the title as we were effectively playing one match per week and pretty much matching Chelsea's run earlier in the season where they were playing one game a week whilst we were still in the CL.

Yeah we've already spoken about the Wolves thing, I'm looking for us to maintain a challenge for the title or at least get closer to Liverpool and Man City, Wolves and Utd are currently challenging a top 4 position, also you keep bringing up Wolves this season...we've literally had a three month break so they aren't effectively playing 2/3 matches in week at the moment so don't think you take this season's evidence as a basis of your argument.

 

[ILS]

No he hasn't, that's what you want to believe be my guest but I can assure you I haven't been 'brainwashed' these are entirely my own thoughts, thanks

I think you're getting confused, in 2016/17 we went out to Gent in the EL but we maintained our challenge for the title as we were effectively playing one match per week and pretty much matching Chelsea's run earlier in the season where they were playing one game a week whilst we were still in the CL.

Yeah we've already spoken about the Wolves thing, I'm looking for us to maintain a challenge for the title or at least get closer to Liverpool and Man City, Wolves and Utd are currently challenging a top 4 position, also you keep bringing up Wolves this season...we've literally had a three month break so they aren't effectively playing 2/3 matches in week at the moment so don't think you take this season's evidence as a basis of your argument.

No i think you are mistaken. We got knocked out by Dortmund in 2015/16 and challenged for the title with Leicester.

 

[Shadydan]

Yes but they used it a foundation to move on to greater things.

No i think you are mistaken. We got knocked out by Dortmund in 2015/16 and challenged for the title with Leicester.

2016/17 mate - we entered the comp because we finished 3rd in the CL group stage and played Gent in the EL, that was the last time we were on the comp.

This is really boring now.

 

[mr ashley]

No he hasn't, that's what you want to believe be my guest but I can assure you I haven't been 'brainwashed' these are entirely my own thoughts, thanks

I think you're getting confused, in 2016/17 we went out to Gent in the EL but we maintained our challenge for the title as we were effectively playing one match per week and pretty much matching Chelsea's run earlier in the season where they were playing one game a week whilst we were still in the CL.

Yeah we've already spoken about the Wolves thing, I'm looking for us to maintain a challenge for the title or at least get closer to Liverpool and Man City, Wolves and Utd are currently challenging a top 4 position, also you keep bringing up Wolves this season...we've literally had a three month break so they aren't effectively playing 2/3 matches in week at the moment so don't think you take this season's evidence as a basis of your argument.

Pre- Harry, as a club we were desperate to qualify for Europe in any way as a sign of our progression.
Harry was the first person at spurs to question the value of the EL, and describe it as a hindrance.
It was either small-time thinking or a public snipe at the board on his part back then.
I haven’t heard any other big club Questioning their involvement in Europe like this

 

[ILS]

2016/17 mate - we entered the comp because we finished 3rd in the CL group stage and played Gent in the EL, that was the last time we were on the comp.

This is really boring now.

I believed I used the word fully in the competition...not rocking in when we were shit in the CL.

We won our group and we're flying in the league so playing Thursday and Sunday did not affect us.

 

[daryl hannah]

2016/17 mate - we entered the comp because we finished 3rd in the CL group stage and played Gent in the EL, that was the last time we were on the comp.

This is really boring now.

Gent - that first leg we had 15 fouls given against us for the tiniest indiscretions - I remember because I watched the match back and concluded that the ref was absolutely on a bender against us.

Terrible officiating.

However, 2nd leg, our finishing was so poor (25 shots), Alli got sent off, and then they scored two fluke goals to go through on aggregate. We didn't have the steels to go through.

And that sums it up - the Europa gods hate us these days.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

I'm also going to add Liverpool reached the Europa League Final which they lost but it helped build the foundations for them to grow. When Atletico Madrid bet Fulham in the Europa final it them helped build the platform for them to go on and win the league, reach two Champions league finals and a couple more EL.

I just do not get why we disregard this competition.

When Arsenal reached the final la—oh, actually

 

[Shadydan]

I believed I used the word fully in the competition...not rocking in when we were shit in the CL.

We won our group and we're flying in the league so playing Thursday and Sunday did not affect us.

And we won 12/13 matches in the league from Feb onwards which co-coincided with us getting knocked out the EL. This is something that helped Chelsea earlier that season because they weren't playing in Europe either, it's not a co-incidence.

We didn't have the squad to compete on multiple fronts back then and it showed.

 

[Shadydan]

Pre- Harry, as a club we were desperate to qualify for Europe in any way as a sign of our progression.
Harry was the first person at spurs to question the value of the EL, and describe it as a hindrance.
It was either small-time thinking or a public snipe at the board on his part back then.
I haven’t heard any other big club Questioning their involvement in Europe like this

Redknapp just said what a lot of managers were thinking, have a look at the squads the managers put out when they are involved in the competition especially the latter stages, many have prioritised the league over the EL because the league nearly always take precedent over it.