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Premier League wage stand-off showing the very worst of football as angry players stand defiant against owners

mawspurs

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Announcement of preferred 30% pay cut left players stunned by the failure to consult the Professional Footballers’s Association regarding the reduction, while plans to furlough staff at various clubs have come with terrible timing for the prolonged talks.

Source: Independent
 

gregga

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Money is amazing isn't it. Once people have (lots of) it - the one thing they want is more of it.

I know the financial impact is yet to hit a lot of clubs fully, but for players to be unwilling to do anything about it until one keels over is shocking.
 

TorontoYid

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I think players being so unwilling to give up a small amount of their rather large wages, while sitting at home doing nothing more than playing FIFA, to support the people in the background of the club speaks volumes as to their character. Yes it is the clubs responsibility but those staff help keep the club going and play a part in helping them earn fabulous sums of money.

Many people have been donating money to help those in needs during these troubled times, while earning a fraction of a Premier League players salary, and there is no need to become so vocal slamming the players association and various clubs for even asking etc. They are supposed to be role models and I hope it is remembered which players were just plain greedy.
 

dontcallme

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I think players being so unwilling to give up a small amount of their rather large wages, while sitting at home doing nothing more than playing FIFA, to support the people in the background of the club speaks volumes as to their character. Yes it is the clubs responsibility but those staff help keep the club going and play a part in helping them earn fabulous sums of money.

Many people have been donating money to help those in needs during these troubled times, while earning a fraction of a Premier League players salary, and there is no need to become so vocal slamming the players association and various clubs for even asking etc. They are supposed to be role models and I hope it is remembered which players were just plain greedy.
It does seem to be part of the way of big business. Just a lack of personal responsibility.

A large company cuts staff and the CEO sees no issue with their £30m bonus.

I have little doubt that some staff furloughed could face losing their jobs but some individuals won’t step up and help out.
 

Lilbaz

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Announcement of preferred 30% pay cut left players stunned by the failure to consult the Professional Footballers’s Association regarding the reduction, while plans to furlough staff at various clubs have come with terrible timing for the prolonged talks.

Source: Independent

All the clubs should agree to furlough the players. See how quickly they change their tune when they only have £2500 a month coming in.
As for the argument that their taxes pay for the nhs. Yes but ni payments are capped and a 20% reduction in pay wont effect how much money goes to the nhs.
 

Strikeb4ck

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You guys should read the article and not just the headline (good rule in general for the 21st century). It's not an issue of the players being unwilling to give up money. It's an issue of the manner by which these cuts were presented to them.
 

dontcallme

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You guys should read the article and not just the headline (good rule in general for the 21st century). It's not an issue of the players being unwilling to give up money. It's an issue of the manner by which these cuts were presented to them.
Have read the article thanks. If the players can't see the bigger picture here then they are fuckwits.
 

TorontoYid

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You guys should read the article and not just the headline (good rule in general for the 21st century). It's not an issue of the players being unwilling to give up money. It's an issue of the manner by which these cuts were presented to them.
Basing it not just from this article but others too where players and ex players have been slamming clubs for having the audacity to suggest players give up some of their salary. People like Rooney for example
 

Lilbaz

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You guys should read the article and not just the headline (good rule in general for the 21st century). It's not an issue of the players being unwilling to give up money. It's an issue of the manner by which these cuts were presented to them.

Read the article thanks. And others.

It is an issue that the players don't want to give up money. Don't fool yourself.

The owners will be losing money also. It wont all be the players footing the bill.
 

Shadydan

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Basing it not just from this article but others too where players and ex players have been slamming clubs for having the audacity to suggest players give up some of their salary. People like Rooney for example

He didn't say that, he said that he is willing to give up money if there is a measure process in place...not just giving it over to the clubs willy nilly.
 

Lilbaz

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He didn't say that, he said that he is willing to give up money if there is a measure process in place...not just giving it over to the clubs willy nilly.

Read the article. They are asking for a deferral. So the clubs pay them in the future. They wont lose a penny.
 

dontcallme

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Basing it not just from this article but others too where players and ex players have been slamming clubs for having the audacity to suggest players give up some of their salary. People like Rooney for example
Yeah, that's not what Rooney said, at all. He very clearly said he was in a position to give up his own money but a proper plan needed to be put on the table as not every player is in the same financial situation that he is in.
 

TorontoYid

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Yeah, that's not what Rooney said, at all. He very clearly said he was in a position to give up his own money but a proper plan needed to be put on the table as not every player is in the same financial situation that he is in.
Not in the articles I saw but then the press has a habit of skewing things and I get different ones here
 

Japhet

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Can't say I'm surprised. They live in a culture awash with greed and are totally out of touch with the real world. They could do with a dose of reality and it would be long overdue, although dropping your wages down to 50k per week isn't exactly a dose of reality is it.
 

Lilbaz

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Yeah, that's not what Rooney said, at all. He very clearly said he was in a position to give up his own money but a proper plan needed to be put on the table as not every player is in the same financial situation that he is in.

The lowest paid player in the premier league is on £13,000 a week so would have to survive on £10,000 a week.
Sorry not sorry.
 

dontcallme

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Not in the articles I saw but then the press has a habit of skewing things and I get different ones here
The key is to read the actual quotes from the player and ignore every line by the journalist. If you read what Rooney said then he said very little wrong.
 

dontcallme

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The lowest paid player in the premier league is on £13,000 a week so would have to survive on £10,000 a week.
Sorry not sorry.
I am guessing you didn't read Rooney's quotes. He simply said that a proper proposal needed to be put onto the table for the players' to accept.
 

Lilbaz

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I am guessing you didn't read Rooney's quotes. He simply said that a proper proposal needed to be put onto the table for the players' to accept.

And you didn't read my post or the article, what they are asking for is a deferral. So it wont be a pay cut at all.
That is the plan they want.
 

dontcallme

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And you didn't read my post or the article, what they are asking for is a deferral. So it wont be a pay cut at all.
That is the plan they want.
I did read the article thanks. I have said the players should be focusing on the bigger picture rather than how the proposal was made to them. From that, how did you determine I hadn't read the article when it clearly suggests I did?
 
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