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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

spursfan77

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He's an arse. It was always about him, I said that from the first game I saw him referee, against Liverpool at WHL years ago.

Yep. Like Webb and Dean now, it’s all about them. It wasn’t just our game I’d seen him cock up because of his arrogance and wanting to be the centre of attention. The best officials are those that you hardly notice.

Anyway, with any luck, should it come back, VAR may not accompany it because the video refs can’t sit in a room together for a game or something as I posted earlier.
 

dricha1

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These Chairmen that have come out speaking about project restart, Palace, Brighton and now Watford have all started their communication with a “we don’t want to deny Liverpool their title that they so richly deserve...” or words to that effect.

gives the impression that that IS the only reason to restart and imagine that Liverpool are really pushing this. Be interesting to see what fallout there is this week after the PL meeting
 

brasil_spur

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Sorry but you can't change the rules of a competition half way through. That's nonsense.

Either play the games in front of fans at their proper stadiums, or don't play at all...
This is a ridiculous statement. The world has changed, this isn't a fleeting thing, the effects of COVID across all works of life will be long lasting. Society will have to adapt and some things will have to change.

Full stadium matches could be more than 12 months away, if you're approach is to wait that long for football to return then you will find that many teams will have gone into administration by then and the game will be changed forever.

What everyone is trying to do right now is find a way of getting football back up and running, safely and without as little compromise to this sport as possible. But there will have to be some compromise, even if that's just playing in empty stadiums.
 

Saoirse

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Sorry but you can't change the rules of a competition half way through. That's nonsense.

Either play the games in front of fans at their proper stadiums, or don't play at all...

Nobody is pretending this is the perfect option. But it's probably the best one we have available. With your plan, the Premier League loses literally billions of pounds. We can't even make up the gap by selling players reliably, because there's going to be significant market deflation. Many teams would go bankrupt, everybody else would have austerity for a prolonged period. And you can absolutely forget most of the football league. Out of the 92 clubs, I'd wager two-thirds would disappear. It simply isn't viable.
 

wayneg

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What everyone is trying to do right now is find a way of getting football back up and running, safely and without as little compromise to this sport as possible. But there will have to be some compromise, even if that's just playing in empty stadiums.

I don't think its the empty staidums clubs have the problem with, its giving up home advantage. That is unfair on clubs such as Villa, who have a far better home record than away and have 5 out of 9 games at home.
 

Mr Pink

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I don't think its the empty staidums clubs have the problem with, its giving up home advantage. That is unfair on clubs such as Villa, who have a far better home record than away and have 5 out of 9 games at home.

But the fact there will be no crowds let in at any stadium does not diminish home advantage significantly anyway?
 

Maxtremist

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But the fact there will be no crowds let in at any stadium does not diminish home advantage significantly anyway?

Diminish but not remove. There's your pre-game prep that comes into it. The travel. Being at home before a game. The ever so slightly different size pitches. Having your spot in the dressing room you're comfortable with etc...

Yes, the fans and atmosphere are a significant part of it but it's more than just that. So I get why clubs are gonna wanna fight for and campaign for any advantage they can get.
 

Metalhead

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Diminish but not remove. There's your pre-game prep that comes into it. The travel. Being at home before a game. The ever so slightly different size pitches. Having your spot in the dressing room you're comfortable with etc...

Yes, the fans and atmosphere are a significant part of it but it's more than just that. So I get why clubs are gonna wanna fight for and campaign for any advantage they can get.
I think that these teams are banking on the premier league being forced to void the season if they refuse neutral venues.
 

Mr Pink

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Diminish but not remove. There's your pre-game prep that comes into it. The travel. Being at home before a game. The ever so slightly different size pitches. Having your spot in the dressing room you're comfortable with etc...

Yes, the fans and atmosphere are a significant part of it but it's more than just that. So I get why clubs are gonna wanna fight for and campaign for any advantage they can get.

I agree, just think the home crowd on match day is the overwhelming part of the advantage.
 

brasil_spur

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I don't think its the empty staidums clubs have the problem with, its giving up home advantage. That is unfair on clubs such as Villa, who have a far better home record than away and have 5 out of 9 games at home.
I agree, but I was replying to a poster who said that football shouldn't return unless it was at stadiums in front of fans.
 

buckley

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when I said about Clattenberg costing us it was remarked that it did not cost us the league as Leicester won all their remaining games .
My reply to that is " do you remember when Newcastle crumbled " it was all about pressure and nobody knows how Leiceter would have performed had they been put under pressure instead of every other club wanting them to win and incidentally everybody seemed to want Newcastle to win at that moment in time but United put them under immense pressure and they crumbled.
My point is we had momentum and the Chelsea game cost us big time and I choose to believe that we would and could have overtaken them if they were put under some kind of pressure . But thanks to Clattenberg we were never able to apply any pressure as all momentum was lost in " the battle of the bridge ".and we dropped away instead of surging on the crest of a wave so to speak.
 

worcestersauce

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It's the end of the season so I
I'm just looking at it as what it is now or will be next week, the closed season, it's done it's gone, we might as well just leave it until next season now. If they want games they might be able to have a few preseason friendlies but that's all.
 

spursfan77

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It's the end of the season so I
I'm just looking at it as what it is now or will be next week, the closed season, it's done it's gone, we might as well just leave it until next season now. If they want games they might be able to have a few preseason friendlies but that's all.

or do this.


I actually went on one of the days even though we didn’t get involved.
 

dudu

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when I said about Clattenberg costing us it was remarked that it did not cost us the league as Leicester won all their remaining games .
My reply to that is " do you remember when Newcastle crumbled " it was all about pressure and nobody knows how Leiceter would have performed had they been put under pressure instead of every other club wanting them to win and incidentally everybody seemed to want Newcastle to win at that moment in time but United put them under immense pressure and they crumbled.
My point is we had momentum and the Chelsea game cost us big time and I choose to believe that we would and could have overtaken them if they were put under some kind of pressure . But thanks to Clattenberg we were never able to apply any pressure as all momentum was lost in " the battle of the bridge ".and we dropped away instead of surging on the crest of a wave so to speak.

Dude, you have to let it go.

It doesn't matter how anyone else or what anyone else would have done.

We couldn't handle the pressure. No one forced Dembele to eye gauge anyone or us to run around like psychos trying to massacre the Chelsea team.
 

coys200

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Love to know how UEFA plan to hold european competitions with 2 week quarantines in place all over Europe. And just thinking about any team relegated in this climate they really are screwed. If West Ham go down they really could do a Coventry.
 

Vincent30

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We haven't even had the second phase of this, countries are clearly holding back numbers as we are clearly being too honest and have the most deaths now across Europe which is ridiculous considering the state of Spain and Italy a few weeks back. Politics and reputation are far more important currently than honesty.

It's absolutely not going to start again, how can it? Some players will categorically refuse to play, teams will lose home advantage which is crucial in the final stages of the league and that's not taking into account, all the other people involved in making a football match happening, police, fire services, TV, journalists, match day security etc etc. If anything was to happen to one of these people or their family and can be put back as caused by the football game in some way, the liability bill will be huge, let alone the moral implications of it all.

This isn't then taking into account lack of match fitness. Ok home workouts have been taking place but this is literally so far from group pre season for fitness levels that people aren't going to be able to hack it. Then you have insurance for players, due to this lack of match fitness i'm sure there will be some form of exclusion in the policy if they pick up an injury, so the clubs are now willing to take all this potential exposure net? Of course not. insurance companies would definitely be against this too.

There is no simple solution to this other than a vaccine, even the greedy money makers from football won't be able to make this happen, way too many moving parts are peoples lives on the line. It's going to be a while.
 
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