Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

[RosieFTL]

So just to be clear here, your priority isn't even really supporting the club, if you could only do so from home...your only priority is this record of yours?

If I got to a point where I was physically unfit to travel (which will largely happen to us all at some point) then I would watch on TV.

In this situation playing in neutral venues behind closed doors is no more than an unofficial training ground game. Over the years the club have held many of those behind closed doors without announcing them and so obviously I haven't been to those either nor did I watch them.

I wouldn't consider these games to be competitive or of any relevance.

 

[Gb160]

I wouldn't consider these games to be competitive or of any relevance.

What you'd consider them as, is neither here nor there.
These are unprecedented times atm.

Besides, if you don't consider them proper matches, your super record thingy is still intact isn't it?

 

[RosieFTL]

What you'd consider them as, is neither here nor there.
These are unprecedented times atm.

Besides, if you don't consider them proper matches, your super record thingy is still intact isn't it?

Absolutely and if others enjoy watching on TV and get pleasure out of it, particularly in these troubled times, then good for them. But it's nothing to do with integrity and everything to do with money. If the top division hadn't sold its soul to the devil (TV) we wouldn't be having this conversation.

A record is a personal thing. At least a few hundred Spurs fans have one and all League clubs will have fans of the same ilk. How each of them feel about it is up to them.

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

Absolutely and if others enjoy watching on TV and get pleasure out of it, particularly in these troubled times, then good for them. But it's nothing to do with integrity and everything to do with money. If the top division hadn't sold its soul to the devil (TV) we wouldn't be having this conversation.

A record is a personal thing. At least a few hundred Spurs fans have one and all League clubs will have fans of the same ilk. How each of them feel about it is up to them.

This has nothing to do with greed and nothing to do with integrity, it's about keeping the teams alive across the country. Fact is that it is unsafe for fans to go to games for a while so if the games don't start behind closed doors the games don't happen and if that is the case there is no football club left to support, nobody likes it but thats where we are.

Even if you don't intend it you are coming across as selfish and entitled.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I’d rather football that I can’t attend than no football at all, but only if it’s safe to do so.

 

[RosieFTL]

This has nothing to do with greed and nothing to do with integrity, it's about keeping the teams alive across the country. Fact is that it is unsafe for fans to go to games for a while so if the games don't start behind closed doors the games don't happen and if that is the case there is no football club left to support, nobody likes it but thats where we are.

Even if you don't intend it you are coming across as selfish and entitled.

For lower league clubs I agree not for the PL. No one yet knows what a "while" is. And no one has spoken about the match going fans - and I'm talking about all of us that go regularly not just me.

 

[mil1lion]

We're 5 weeks into lockdown, even when lockdown is lifted it will only be lifted by a small amount. The league wont resume for about another 6 weeks. That's about the time when China started lifting restrictions so I think it's doable especially BCD (sorry behind closed doors ). I can't imagine by that time how anyone who follows football wont watch especially if they decide to air the games for free (although I imagine Sky and BT will still show the big games exclusively). I for one will be bored out of mind by then if I'm not already.

I'm torn about it myself. I would like the season to resume because I want something to follow at home before things start moving properly again. I don't think it should continue though because it's too complicated. I would void the season, start the next one in September, cancel cup replays to avoid fixture build up and cancel European football for the first half of next season. I'd resume this seasons European campaigns from March next year. If they resume European football then it makes it complicated if one country goes into lockdown. At least by March we'll be well on top of this and maybe even have a vaccine.

 

[spursfan77]

This is what I mentioned the other day. Ludicrous.

 

[mil1lion]

I'm not sure what difference it makes playing at a neutral ground if the stadium is empty anyway. Even if they play at home you can be sure if they lose they will still argue the outcome would be different with their crowd. If the season continues there will still be a big asterisk alongside it.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

This is what I mentioned the other day. Ludicrous.

What’s the point in playing if you’re removing a fundamental thing for the league.

 

[Wsussexspur]

This is what I mentioned the other day. Ludicrous.

For me only way they remove relegation is that they have no promotion from champions ship. Next season is going to be difficult enough as it is without the rediculous idea of increasing the premier league in team size to accommodate Leeds & WBA and quite possible one of the teams in the play off positions.

 

[Lifelong]

What’s the point in playing if you’re removing a fundamental thing for the league.

So take away relegation and surprise surprise more clubs would be in favour of completing the season...who’d of thought it. Absolute joke if this happens, as far as I’m concerned you can’t have winners without losers, that’s the whole concept of sport. I’ve said it before and I still stand by it, if this season cannot be completed, with champions and relegation and that includes promotion from other leagues then the whole thing needs to be null and voided and start again from scratch when safe to do so.

 

[thekneaf]

I'm a matching going fan, but complaining about your record of attendance being impacted is kind of crass. It'll be months and months before we get back in the stadium at the optimistic end of the scale.

To use another pandemic as an analogy, pre AIDS people were pretty careless around condom use. Then the AIDS pandemic hits and now it's pretty vital you wear a condom unless you're in a serious relationship. You don't actually say stop having sex, but you say, ok so this is serious, and and I know it doesn't feel as good, but you need to rubber up now.

Now I don't think behind closed doors footfall should or in fact will start up in June. But it might in August and September and it might not feel as good, but this is a new paradigm.

 

[Saoirse]

If we're literally talking about four people on decades-long runs of not missing games, I do wonder whether the club couldn't appoint them as "stewards" and let them in miles away from anyone else. If they drive the risk is seriously minimal and it would be an amazing gesture given that level of loyalty.

 

[thekneaf]

Or just say that they haven't missed any games, because that only counts if other paying supporters attend a game they don't. I'm assuming there are already caveats in place for pre season games. For me, you're record is intact even if there are behind closed doors games for a period.

 

[Mr Pink]

This is what I mentioned the other day. Ludicrous.

If that isn't affecting the integrity of the competition I don't know what is.

Unbelievable.

 

[RosieFTL]

If we're literally talking about four people on decades-long runs of not missing games, I do wonder whether the club couldn't appoint them as "stewards" and let them in miles away from anyone else. If they drive the risk is seriously minimal and it would be an amazing gesture given that level of loyalty.

Thanks including friendly games yes but competitive games there are a few hundred who haven't missed a game for many years.

 

[ShayLaB]

I watched United game in the Europe league in early March behind closed doors.

It was absolutely awful. Plenty of goals, Igahlo wonder strike but still awful.

Without fans it's just a crock of shit really.

This.

Watching the musicians play in their living rooms makes you fully appreciate the energy a crowd brings.

I reckon it'll be awful.

Would rather they just call the whole thing off.

 

[yankspurs]

If I got to a point where I was physically unfit to travel (which will largely happen to us all at some point) then I would watch on TV.

In this situation playing in neutral venues behind closed doors is no more than an unofficial training ground game. Over the years the club have held many of those behind closed doors without announcing them and so obviously I haven't been to those either nor did I watch them.

I wouldn't consider these games to be competitive or of any relevance.

Im sorry but with all due respect, fuck off with your record. This is about life or death of tens of thousands of people and the survival of the sport. Your record might well be gone anyway if the sport cant come back at some point in the next 2 years(which is what it will take for a vaccine to be available). You might want to rethink your position.

 

[SpursSince1980]

This is what I mentioned the other day. Ludicrous.

Then don't do it. The whole purpose of restarting is to finalize league positions. Including relegation. If you don't have relegation on the table there's no point in going through this huge brouhaha.
Safest and smartest way forward is to finish the season now. Crown the presumptive Champs. But do not relegate or promote teams. Then start the next season mid Sept, but with no European football. Remove international travel as a potential safety concern for the players. Is it ideal? No. It's a compromise that is probably the fairest option.
Next season will be weird. As it's not like in mid sept there will no more covid and we will have full stadiums again. Bollocks. Until a vaccine, a panacea style cure, and or the virus has effectively gone, then by all means, fill em up. But the earliest that will happen is Feb of next year. If it was sooner that would be fantastic, but nothing indicates we will be free and safe from this thing for quite some time.